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The Search for Trip Weed

ThaiBliss

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Greetings,

I am pushing the limits of northern ripening for a couple of strains this year, because of the search for trippy cerebral strains. One of the ones I'm trying is Ciskei, a South African strain. I have 3 of them, and each is unique. One of them is very sensitive to pH or nutrient levels. It has very thin leaves and is quite lanky. All 3 have been bushing out with tertiary branches, but this first picture shows how sparse the lankiest one is. The picture is through the side of the plant just to show how thin/tropical/sativa it looks. It is hard to see through the trellis fence, but quite a bit of light does show through:
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Here is a picture of the thin leaves:
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Here is the top of one that was squat and bushy in its early stages, but is now shooting towards the sky:

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Here is a branch of one that was lanky, fast growing, and less susceptible to my nutrient level mistakes. As the tertiary branches started growing, it now looks quite bushy:

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I think they all smell like menthol and lemon, but a friend who knows nothing of S. African strains, or Durban Poison in particular, mentioned a liquorish smell on this third one. I really hope these are stimulative and clear. The Durban Poison I once grew indoors did not turn out so well. I have heard many reports that sound like Durban Poison is one type of high that I would like. I hope Ciskei is similar, but grows better outdoors here.
 

ThaiBliss

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Here are some other plants I'm growing. The first one is one of the most sativa looking Nepalese x Jamaican (NepJam):
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Here is one of my Dank Dank plants. This line has many good strains that I have blended in over the years. The most commonly recognized would be Skunk #1, Burmese, and Trainwreck, but one of the earliest was from a Thai x Afghani cutting I had known as "Perky" because of how stimulative and edgy it was. That Perky cutting was powerful:
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The leaves of the line got reinforced with the wide gene due to the Burmese. The Burmese plant was very euphoric in low doses and trippy in high doses:
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Happy Trip Searching,

ThaiBliss
 

Elmer Bud

Genotype Sex Worker AKA strain whore
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G`day TB

I`m interested to know why no light dep ?
Your sats are gonna mature under waning sun and cooler temps . The veg stage is good ,long warm days .Mid - late flower less than ideal . Come late august into sept your loosing a lot of hours of light and the temps drop and clouds roll in .

I think if you want super potent herb the strong sun is key .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

ThaiBliss

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G`day TB

I`m interested to know why no light dep ?
Your sats are gonna mature under waning sun and cooler temps . The veg stage is good ,long warm days .Mid - late flower less than ideal . Come late august into sept your loosing a lot of hours of light and the temps drop and clouds roll in .

I think if you want super potent herb the strong sun is key .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Hi Elmer,

Light dep is a good idea, but costly or time consuming, especially when plants are 9 to 10 feet tall already and at least a month of growth before flowering starts. I think I can get a good idea the quality and power of the strain if it gets done by the third week of October.

This climate can be hot and extremely dry here in September. Average temperatures are around 85+ in early September, but days over 100 degrees are not surprising to see. Days can be so dry, allowing strong solar radiation, that temperature can swing 60 degrees between night and day, like a high desert. The worm often turns in October. Serious rain usually starts in November but October is iffy.

I hope to get lucky to see what this strain is about outdoors here. If I'm so lucky to get a good glimpse of what Ciskei is about, I have another strain with African genetics in it that is very clear and clean which gets done by October 7th, Bangi Haze, that I can use to breed an earlier ripening date to Ciskei. This picture was taken the first day of October, and ripening progressed quickly after this picture:
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Bangi Haze in early September:
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Bangi Haze in early flower, August 8th:
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ThaiBliss
 

mexicani-ar

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Chimera Highland Mexican on the left and Bodhi Acapulco Gold on the right.
 

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Homebrewer

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Here is some Big Sur Holy Weed at day 80 today (harvest). Side-by-side, it would be just about impossible to distinguish her aroma from the SAGE cut that I have. She's really fragrant: lots of turpentine, pine, and hints of fresh rubber (new car tires?). Visually she appears to be very similar to SAGE as well with her spear-like flowers which require very little trimming.

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Mustafunk

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Here is some Big Sur Holy Weed at day 80 today (harvest). Side-by-side, it would be just about impossible to distinguish her aroma from the SAGE cut that I have. She's really fragrant: lots of turpentine, pine, and hints of fresh rubber (new car tires?). Visually she appears to be very similar to SAGE as well with her spear-like flowers which require very little trimming.

She looks nice and compact too... so is this supposed to be a clone-only from the real deal BSHW from Perry the Monk (allegedly a Zacatecas/Afghan heirloom hybrid or something like that) or is she a keeper from Bodhi's or Reeferman's BSHW stock?

Peace. :tiphat:
 

Homebrewer

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She looks nice and compact too... so is this supposed to be a clone-only from the real deal BSHW from Perry the Monk (allegedly a Zacatecas/Afghan heirloom hybrid or something like that) or is she a keeper from Bodhi's or Reeferman's BSHW stock?

Peace. :tiphat:

As far as I know, this is not a keeper that came from a pack of seeds. The exact origins of this cut are unknown to me but I can make an attempt to find out. :tiphat:

If someone has ever run into the 'real deal', my pics and aroma descriptions are as accurate as can be so feel free to chime in.

EDIT: I guess this cut was sourced near Humbolt but was told it was originally came from Santa Cruz or Big Sur itself.
 
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ThaiBliss

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Homebrewer,

BSHW looks spectacular! Hard to judge by pictures, but it looks even more resinous and slightly less leafy than the SAGE cut.

Great job. I'm drooling!
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ThaiBliss
 

bombadil.360

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Satva, cool find! I'm reading it now. I wonder how accurate the info is, if it is accurate, we have some cool details in there. I can confirm for sure that the Arhuacos in Santa Marta like to grow very special plants, they are very special people themselves, I have met some of the Mamos there.
 
A little update on the Cambodians.

The one attached is a girl, yay! The other ones are under 11/13 too now but not sexed yet.

As I thought these seem to be complete stretch monsters! I run with 7 degrees C on-off delta, and that is about as low as I can get.
Looks like it will be a jungle in there if I don't watch it.

Judging by appearance and stretch I am still hopeful that the genetics are pretty pure, love to hear oppinions of the more experienced ones though.

ZD
 

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Nice looking Cambodian. Wasn't there another?

Thanks TB, I like her too. Can't wait to see her in full flower (also because that meant stretch were over;)).

Yep, in fact there are two more, they are a bit younger and the youngest went into the flowering cabinet just yesterday. I'll post some pics of them as soon as they really take off.

This one just grew 2'' in 24h so watching grass grow is nowhere near as boring as people may believe...

ZD
 

shawkmon

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chop the herb when its got mostly clear trichs, early chop can give trippy effects to weed that would otherwise not be, it also seems to always taste better to me on fruity strains, the longer they flower the less flavor they have. anyhoo, just my 2 cents , um and i just busted up a nugg of brick commercial weed , some gnarly tasting shit, but i just found 5 tiny tiny dark solid brown seeds , woot, putting them in my mexi stash for future sativa trip weed searc hing
 

yesum

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Read the article satva, thanks. Translated by computer. Looks like the author comes to Icmag sometimes.
 

satva

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post from kaiki, Cannabiogen (translated) noting the similarity between the four main pheno-types in Colombian Punto Rojo and the four main pheno-types in Haze noted by Sam Skunkman.

Hazes, the mixture of different sativas ... one of the original brothers Always thought that the original Haze Haze started planting they were ... Colombian Red Spot and define 4 different aromas mainly phenes by (*). This resulted time after the Original Haze then Tremeda and extensively developed to their maximum by the breeder Sam Skunkman, who also steadied the Skunk much later influence An easy thing to understand, they can be or could find lines with "pink hairs" in Mexico, in Central America, Colombia, the Caribbean (Jamaica, etc), in Brazil, Africa and Asia. Sequencing all time and its variants is complex and I do not think there was a single type or breed of Colombian cannabis at one time.

During the next year the seeds produced the four varieties. I was Given a description by SamS of "fruity", "sour", "rootbeer", "tail", "chocolate" and "hashy". Later, a more accurate description of each variety was Given. The first being Magenta, Which Those in the inner-circle Knew as the "Rootbeer pheno``, and the rest of the world Knew as" purple haze``. Then, there was the "Gold`` Which Was known to carry sandlewood and pine musky traits. In actuality it smelt like catpiss late in flower, and before a cure. "Blue`` and" Were silver`` of the Spicy Sweet peppery type, and silver was all of them Considered strongest- had a deep rich lingering after-taste. The four varieties of the original haze (magenta, gold, silver, and blue) Were Never stable, and each year HAD slight variations. The leaf pattern was always the same, and the colors Were not cold induced. The calyxes colored Showed only as the leaf Were always bright green.

Colombian Punto Rojo - five pheno-types

Gold


Silver / Blue


Maroon


Rainbow


Red
 

bigherb

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The intention of post was a great idea as it clearly shows the Punto Rojo is Santa Cruz Original Haze . I've put together pics and post over the years before And after Charlie released his line which show the relation ,but his line makes it very clear

I think the translation is way off and probably not necessary . To be clear your second paragraph is from my True origins of Haze article . The first description was given by Sams to me here in my Haze thread the second more detailed description of phenos was given to me by my good friend who shared the story


Just wanted to clear that up

1luvbigherb
 

satva

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Thank you bigherb!

Your "True Origins of Haze" bears repeating. I think about your efforts when I read about or smoke sandalwood / frankincense. My focus is on - "The High" and not so much the story.

I like the Gold one! "The Blissful One" Her full name is "Jennifer Flowers, she who knows naught of flowers" + 22 weeks

My next grow ~ "Going for the Gold"

Punto Rojo - gold, Punto Rojo - gold x ColJam, Colombian Gold x Jamaician Lambsbread, Mangobiche, and a few Old Timers Haze (OTH) selections from a gold OTH mother.

PS> hehehe, from English to Spanish, and back to English, its a techno world.

PPS> Charlie Garcia's Punto Rojo pictures are more convincing in tellin the story than my pictures.. hehehehe
 
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