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heya - for people looking to grow a Brugmansia in Canada etc. I would think your best bet would be to go with something in genus Datura
e.g. Datura stramonium (Thorn Apple; Jimsonweed), or Datura metel
I have seen specimens of this grown in the UK (cultivars, in gardens, not wild - though it can be ((seldom)) found wild) and they were looking very happy - some, if I remember right, up to about 1 metre, perhaps 1.5 metres)
the trumpet-shaped flowers have the same menacing vibe as the Brugmansia - and also produce some crazy seedpods which in the stramonium can be covered in spikes and can make it look exceptionally evil
the leaves and all the plant stink - foetid, acrid, narcotic smell
I don't recommend experimenting with them - annecdotally: the father of an old friend was fond of ingesting Datura seeds (he had all kinds of occult interests) and he eventually succumbed to liver cancer; I believe Carlos Castaneda went the same way ... I am not saying I know there to be proof that Datura is hepatotoxic, but I would proceed with extreme caution
some Moroccans like to mix the plant with hash and tobacco - there is a synergistic effect, and it gets you extra stoned
e.g. Datura stramonium (Thorn Apple; Jimsonweed), or Datura metel
I have seen specimens of this grown in the UK (cultivars, in gardens, not wild - though it can be ((seldom)) found wild) and they were looking very happy - some, if I remember right, up to about 1 metre, perhaps 1.5 metres)
the trumpet-shaped flowers have the same menacing vibe as the Brugmansia - and also produce some crazy seedpods which in the stramonium can be covered in spikes and can make it look exceptionally evil
the leaves and all the plant stink - foetid, acrid, narcotic smell
I don't recommend experimenting with them - annecdotally: the father of an old friend was fond of ingesting Datura seeds (he had all kinds of occult interests) and he eventually succumbed to liver cancer; I believe Carlos Castaneda went the same way ... I am not saying I know there to be proof that Datura is hepatotoxic, but I would proceed with extreme caution
some Moroccans like to mix the plant with hash and tobacco - there is a synergistic effect, and it gets you extra stoned
budelaire, hawaii is beautiful without a doubt! 
ngapka, some sadus in india also mix datura with their herb. btw, the brugmansias trees have one of the most lovely smells ever! whenever i pass by one of them (they abound here) i always inhale deeply
zamalito, freathery orange leaves? sounds amazing. you know cochabamba is perhaps the place with more rains per year in all of south america? the place is thick green all over...
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ngapka, some sadus in india also mix datura with their herb. btw, the brugmansias trees have one of the most lovely smells ever! whenever i pass by one of them (they abound here) i always inhale deeply
zamalito, freathery orange leaves? sounds amazing. you know cochabamba is perhaps the place with more rains per year in all of south america? the place is thick green all over...
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Hola Paz, to get a good deal on land in my area you pretty much have to "marry" into it. Anyway this is some Colombian grown "Sour Jack" (Turbo DieselXJack Herr) cured to perfection. The bud in the pic has an over powering Diesel favor and a mind numbing stone.
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Hola Paz, to get a good deal on land in my area you pretty much have to "marry" into it. Anyway this is some Colombian grown "Sour Jack" (Turbo DieselXJack Herr) cured to perfection. The bud in the pic has an over powering Diesel favor and a mind numbing stone.
Peace from Colombia
PazVerdeRadical said:ngapka, some sadus in india also mix datura with their herb. btw, the brugmansias trees have one of the most lovely smells ever! whenever i pass by one of them (they abound here) i always inhale deeply
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heya Paz - yeh, I hear Brugmansias smell gorgeous (I wasn't meaning to imply that they are also stinkers like Datura lol)
yeh, when I was in Haridwar, on the Ganjes, I noticed that there were a lot of Datura growing around areas outside of town where the sadhus would eat and sleep (and of course ganja plants here and there too) ...
a friend of mine (of varying reliability as a source of info) told me that there are dates in "the sadhu calendar" (as it were) when the babas will congregate in pilgrimage sites such as Haridwar and all get mashed together on Datura
from what D was saying it seems Indian ideas about Datura intoxication share the same themes of "out-of-body travel" etc. that are found in European and Central and South American use
it wasn't clear to me whether the Vaishanava and Naga sadhus also make use of the plants, or whether it was only the Saivites ...
yeh, there is a great statue of Shiva in his Nataraja ("Lord of the Dance") form (the same one pictured in Schultes I think) in the British museum, with Datura woven through his hair
there is a different, but very beautiful version here:
http://www.hinduweb.org/home/general_sites/kogee/hinduism.html
it is tough to pic out the datura flowers, but they are represented as circular, as if the trumpet shaped flowers were facing base towards you
I am assuming that Hindhus associate Datura with the destrcutive aspect of Shiva's universal dance of creation and destruction
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Budelaire
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I had to change my timers' schedule for my flowering stealthy cabinets. I will be moving on June 1st and I know that the landlord will have some visitors into my apartment. This is the time to demonstrate the stealthiness of my cabinets. I got lucky also because the clones that I'm flowering are very low odor. Even when my ventilation is closed (12 -12 everything is shuting down during darkness period) there is no smell whatsoever. Imagine, the landlord/visitors into my apartment with 4 large flowering sleeping females (Hawaiian Sativa pheno from C.T.S. x H.S.) inside a 6 feet High x 3 feet wide x 2 feet deep and nobody noticing? my system closes at 9:00 am and powers itself up at 9:00 pm. wish me good luck! I don't want to loose my super phenos!
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fyi, mauna kea is one of the 5 volcanos that make up the big island(hawaii), and comprises most of the northern end of the island. i remember reading descriptions of a so-called hawaiian strain 'from the island of mauna kea' (sic). i'm glad you enjoy your favorite hybrid, but you have to wonder how accurate the info we consumers get when we buy seeds from some of the bozos in the business
fyi, mauna kea is one of the 5 volcanos that make up the big island(hawaii), and comprises most of the northern end of the island. i remember reading descriptions of a so-called hawaiian strain 'from the island of mauna kea' (sic). i'm glad you enjoy your favorite hybrid, but you have to wonder how accurate the info we consumers get when we buy seeds from some of the bozos in the business
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Sorry guys.
Budelaire, good luck & wishes in getting those girls done!
Sorry guys.
Budelaire, good luck & wishes in getting those girls done!
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isnt the white widos a cross of brazilian skunk or something from south america kc brains has some southern american strains
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isnt the white widos a cross of brazilian skunk or something from south america kc brains has some southern american strains
Hola!!!
Here is some try Peru landrace sativa. The plant was flowering for 4 months and has these lovely citrus & lemony smell & taste. The high is soaring "up" high that is good for daytime smoke. Nothing too potent, but I think little cure would do miracles for the taste & high also.
Here we go:
The seeds of this strain were collected from the mountains of Peru and the locals called this strain "Rojo"!!!
Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!
Here is some try Peru landrace sativa. The plant was flowering for 4 months and has these lovely citrus & lemony smell & taste. The high is soaring "up" high that is good for daytime smoke. Nothing too potent, but I think little cure would do miracles for the taste & high also.
Here we go:
The seeds of this strain were collected from the mountains of Peru and the locals called this strain "Rojo"!!!
Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!
That's a beautiful peruvian, herbal. We've been looking for an old peruvian landrace skunk for a long time. Luiz had a female cut for a longtime that he'd obtained in the late 80's and we've heard reports of it appearing but never getting our hands on it.
We are about to grow out some seeds from a kilo of some very nice very green and very strong Bolivian bricked herb that was sitting in a freezer for 4 years. This herb was still very potent after thos 4 years and would dominate over anything else you smoked before it.
We will also be doing a large grow of what I consider to be the most prized of the northeastern brazilian strains.... the cabeça de nego. When grown in brazil this strain exhibits dark greyish silver resin on the tops of the flowers and very dark hairs and occasionally the the crinkle leaf trait of the djshort strains. Some plants could even pass for a very long flowering blueberry sativa with the same very small floral clusters and purple hues. This is the strain of choice for those that use cannabis spiritually in the northeast.
We are about to grow out some seeds from a kilo of some very nice very green and very strong Bolivian bricked herb that was sitting in a freezer for 4 years. This herb was still very potent after thos 4 years and would dominate over anything else you smoked before it.
We will also be doing a large grow of what I consider to be the most prized of the northeastern brazilian strains.... the cabeça de nego. When grown in brazil this strain exhibits dark greyish silver resin on the tops of the flowers and very dark hairs and occasionally the the crinkle leaf trait of the djshort strains. Some plants could even pass for a very long flowering blueberry sativa with the same very small floral clusters and purple hues. This is the strain of choice for those that use cannabis spiritually in the northeast.
Pout-the-pup, white widow is supposedly a cross of manga rosa and a himalayan indica. The problem with manga rosa is that it has been grown for a long time in several different regions of brazil sometimes being hybridized so it is quite variable. Bsc has offered several different manga rosas over the years. Our first manga rosa was somewhat wide leafed and was probably a hybrid. The current manga rosa we sell came from a close friend who's a 54 year old singer from the northeast. He obtained it from a longtime friend who is an older herbsman also from the northeast. This is about as pure and authentic manga rosa as can be found. Unfortunately kc brains doesn't sell any south american strains in the pure form. The bahia blackhead is only about 25% cabeça de nego and 75% dutch genes.
Budelaire
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kolohe said:
Yes I know there are some "bozos" on the market even trying to sell some landraces and strains picked up on Mars or Jupiter! LOL
I bought my beans from Federation and this company has some interesting strains for sale: Mikado, Romulan, Cotton Candy, C.T.S. and the infamous Island Sweet Skunk. They used to have the Hawaiian Sativa but for now, they don't carry it anymore. I ordered last May the C.T.S. x Hawaiian Sativa and having grown and cloned the most sativayish pheno, I can easely tell that what I have in my glass jar is some very potent, fluffy, super frosty, stellar Sativa. Leaves have very thin fingers, grows tall and lanky and possess a lemony/pineapple aroma when growing, but, when cured, the scent will still have some lemon, but it also brings some earthy, sandalwood tones to it. Well cured sativa landraces/pure sativas rule and rock!
Budelaire
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Thanks guys for the extensive info on brugmansias. I'll probably be able to get some seeds to grow some at home. I may not try dried brugmansia flowers in a tea format. Too toxic for me, but have you seen nicer flowers? I'll just stick with my dried and cured Sativa flowers! LOL, They just rock !
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Redrider, your pics a simply awesome... macros and all! these pics could well be candidates for National Geographic magazine.... actually, they are posted here at the International Cannagraphic online Magazine, which is as much notorious as them! loll
Viva el South americana Sativas!
Viva el South americana Sativas!
Hola!!!
Thanks Zam, but it wasnt my grow, I just got lucky and copped couple nice nugs from a friend who growed it. Those projects of you guys sounds more than interesting, I would want to try those cabeça de nego + that Bolivian herb, it must be something special if you can feel it´s effects through the herb you smoked previously.And after 4 years in the freezer
This is nice thread with a lots of good info.
Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!
Thanks Zam, but it wasnt my grow, I just got lucky and copped couple nice nugs from a friend who growed it. Those projects of you guys sounds more than interesting, I would want to try those cabeça de nego + that Bolivian herb, it must be something special if you can feel it´s effects through the herb you smoked previously.And after 4 years in the freezer
This is nice thread with a lots of good info.
Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!
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