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invocation

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Ah yes, sorry my mind read what it thought was there lol thank you

Silica in the res with just water, then aloe/fulvic/SST (sprouted seed tea) right before watering.....personally I do switch out fulvic for a powdered humic acid with micronutes TM7 - for variety and micronutrient insurance plan for the 'big 7'. Every other week or so.

That's pretty much how I do it but I always add a little kelp since I have a lot on hand to that mix. Just a little for flavor lol. :tiphat:
 
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BlueJayWay

Who wants to test out Coprolite in their soil mix?

Expensive, sure, and you'd have to powder it yourself - use like rock dusts - and preferably from herbivores vs. carnivores.
 

Gascanastan

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Who wants to test out Coprolite in their soil mix?

Expensive, sure, and you'd have to powder it yourself - use like rock dusts - and preferably from herbivores vs. carnivores.

The 'Tricero-bloom' brand powdered coprolite is the best....

Imagine that..and then again why not/what's the difference if you are adding all kinds of other oddities.....such as many of us do.
 

Rising Moon

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I actually do grind my own fossils and use them in my soil mix...

The creeks around here are full of huge chunks of fossils (mostly shells/trilobites) and I happily collect them, and smash the shit out of them (lol only way to do it..) then take the mortar and pestle to them. At one time I was going to get this stuff tested for fun, but don't really care too much anymore, I like the fact that 600 million year old shells are in my mix regardless.
 
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Old_Headbanger

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my soil

Here's a pic of about 36 cu ft. of freshly mixed soil intended for outdoor rols no till. If my math is right I should have enough for 16, fifteen gal. holes. Pretty much a mix of gascanastans and coots' recipee from page one of the rols thread. Only difference being:

I used all oyster shell flour and no gypsum or dolomite.

Aeration is mostly perlite with some native stone 3/8" less. Thats what I screened the compost and topsoil down to.

No coco, all premier sphagnum peat moss.

A little lighter on the fish meal (about half), only because I ran out.

About a quarter of my mineral mix is the granite dust I scored from the tombstone guy. The rest is gggrd.

Hot to the touch right now too. I took the tarp off and there was soo much fuzz on it. Letting it get rained on right now to moisten it.

Doesn't look like much but I'm pretty proud of it.
 
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dogfishheadie

looking good my man, how's your back feeling? :petting:

wanted to find out exactly how much is too much of a good thing? after parusing BioAg's site to order some more ful-power, i'm contemplating ordering their whole line hah. wanted to give them a run on this next run of girls we have going.

Ful-Humix

Ful-Humix is a inexpensive soil activator that increases cellular activities at all levels. Increases availability of nutrients, converts raw organic matter faster and stimulates microbes.Yield increases are common when treating many types of problem soils. Humic acids are vital to normal plant growth including pest resistance. Humisolve provides a quick source of available humic extract of the right type to do the job in an economical way.

Humic acids have been proven to detoxify the cell and in the root system reduce the uptake of these elements. This is a major boost to irrigated areas with salt problems. Soils in some tropical areas are acidified and contain large amounts of aluminum. Humisolve can prevent the toxic effects of this and other metals on plant growth.

Humic acid buffers the soil and the plant with an organic colloids bio-polymer that prevent tie up caused by chemical salts reacting in an inorganic form.


TM-7

Activates and stimulates soil microbial activity and increases plant growth and yield by supplying vital humic substances and 7 trace elements required for plant growth. Reduces water use by plants and increases fruit set and quality. Improves soil tilth/quality and trace element levels. The natural humic and fulvic acids act as chelating agents and prevent tie-up of the trace elements as well as supplying natural root and growth stimulating compounds.


CytoPlus

The product is a source of organic trace elements along with humic and fulvic acids. This is used as a trigger spray on fruit and vegetables used just prior to bloom or bud stage to enhance flowering and fruit set and retention. On turf it provides a dark green color and a better root system. CYTOPLUS OPTIMIZES THE REPRODUCTIVE CYCLE FOR MORE PRODUCTION. This is the best all around product for the gardener or for top quality turf.

VAM-Endo Mix

7 different strains of Granular Arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi, resulting in superior plant and root growth.

Benefits include:

* Improved nutrient and water uptake
* Improved root growth
* Improved plant growth and yield
* Improved disease resistance
* Reduced transplant shock
* Reduced drought stress

These fungi increase the surface absorbing area of roots 10 to 100x thereby greatly improving the ability of the plants to utilize the soil resource. Estimates of amounts of mycorrhizal filaments present in soil associated with plants are astonishing. Several miles of fungal filaments can be present in less than a thimbleful of soil! But mycorrhizal fungi increase nutrient uptake not only by increase the surface absorbing area of roots. They also release powerful chemicals into the soil that dissolve hard to capture nutrients such as phosphorous, iron and other "tightly bound" soil nutrients. This extraction process is particularly important in plant nutrition and explains why non mycorrhizal plants require high levels of fertility to maintain their health. Mycorrhizal fungi form an intricate web that captures and assimilates nutrients conserving the nutrient capital in soils. In non mycorrhizal conditions much of this fertility is wasted or lost from the system.



anyone have experience running them all together? i'm currently having stunning results using ful-power, agisil, aloe 200x and don't want to over complicate things, it's just if they can all work in conjunction to produce an even better result then why not? prices don't seem too unreasonable to give them a test run.
 
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BlueJayWay

Nice, bookmarked!

from the first link - does this sound familiar? ;) In regards to a particular content of Aloe Vera

Enzymes act as biochemical catalysts that break down the proteins we eat into amino acids. The enzymes turn the food we eat into fuel for every cell in our body, enabling the cells to function and work efficiently


VR x NLH 5 @ 10 weeks

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For some reason I had a shortage of appropriately sized pots to transplant into - so I cut big holes in the 3gal bag and place it 'above ground' a bit in a 5gal pot i scrounged up from outside...

I'm unsure when to harvest these - they keep growing lol

VR x NLH 2 @ 12 weeks

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these flowers are girthy, surprisingly dense, stinky, sticky - just wow. she's in 18gal tote no-till on 3rd or 4th cycle.....i don't know how long she wants to go so i cut her off from the tap! Just water to finish her off, thirsty girl drinks daily!
 

shmalphy

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I can't believe the white hairs at 12 weeks! I bet that could go 20 weeks and still not be fully swollen out, looks like a heavy yielder already for sure
 
Wow...that looks insane BJW!!! I've got a couple VR x NLH that are about 3 or 4 inches tall...looks like I've got a ways to go before I'm chopping shit.
 
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BlueJayWay

I suspect I will enjoy them as well! Thanks Coot! :tiphat:

Hey if she wants 20 weeks then she'll get it, lets see how long she'll go! there's already new cuts flowering - now that I know what to expect ill do her better justice on the 2nd go at her...

...I forgot to mention, those with an interest in the strain, the #5 pheno was the more typical expression from 6 females and should finish by 12 weeks, rather than the outlying 'haze' pheno that is still picking up steam at 12 weeks!
 

ClackamasCootz

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BJW

rather than the outlying 'haze' pheno that is still picking up steam at 12 weeks!

That's coming from the Sativa in the VR and its Thai genetics. You can go to the bank on that one.

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ClackamasCootz

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anyone have experience running them all together? i'm currently having stunning results using ful-power, agisil, aloe 200x and don't want to over complicate things, it's just if they can all work in conjunction to produce an even better result then why not? prices don't seem too unreasonable to give them a test run

dogfishheadie

BioAg's Ful-Humix is their base Humic acid product. It is used in their CytoPlus which is simply powdered seaweed extract and their Humic acid. It is also used in their TM-7 and the TM = Trace Minerals and there are 7 of them.

VAM-Endo is their mycorrhizal fungi mix.

I would suggest using the TM-7 for its trace minerals which includes Sulfur, Boron, Cobalt, Molybdenum, Copper, Iron, Manganese & Zinc in a 40% Humic acid base. What separates this product from others is that they're chelated with Humic acid vs. Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA)

The VAM-Endo is a one-time application when transplanting. You only need to innoculate the roots one time.

TM-7 can be used 1x every 7 - 10 days. No need to hi-dose.

Ful-Power is their Fulvic acid and because of Oregon & California 'rules of engagement' the term 'fulvic acid' cannot appear on the label, advertising or other promotional materials. You can save money by cutting the application rate in half and applying as a foliar spray.

TM-7 and the other Humic acid products will give you the maximum benefit by applying to the soil vs. spraying.

HTH

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BlueJayWay

BJW

rather than the outlying 'haze' pheno that is still picking up steam at 12 weeks!

That's coming from the Sativa in the VR and its Thai genetics. You can go to the bank on that one.

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Ah very nice! Maybe it should be the 'Thai' pheno, the smell off her is what I'm calling 'haze' but I'm a horrible smeller lol
 

ClackamasCootz

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BJW

The VR (straight) will throw about 20% of the pheno that you're seeing in your garden.

12 weeks was the norm for a straight VR. If you could introduce cold air you would see an explosion of color that is pretty unique - everything from gold through red, blue & purple including the small sugar leaves. These hold their color when dried making it look like the threads in old dollar bills and other dominations. Definitely has the ol' bag appeal paradigm.

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smoooth

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Went and mixed up the soil again the other day and it was ALivE! Covered in white fuzz/fungus? Any clumps i found that wasn't mixed up too well the first time were covered in activity as well.

Can't wait to fill the pots and get it going. Just over another week and it will be good to go!
 
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YosemiteSam

There is nothing better than a long, long growing Thai. The high can be soaring and electric. My buddy use to have an 18 weeker...that was the best plant I ever smoked period.

If you can stand it I would let it go until it tells you it is completely done...not the easiest thing in the world to do. The "tester" buds will be amazing...but let it go to some amber, then jar it up and let it cure a few months.

I mean, this thing is all about patience right???

I ate some cookies from that thing one time. I got that time and space distortion thing really strong. And my dumb ass got to watching a clock and thinking if this thing stops I will be dead. And then I got to thinking...fuck it, if this is dead it is great. From that day on I have never been sure if I really exist anymore or I am just in dreaming the dream of the dead. Either way...it ain't bad.

Yep...I like me some Thai.
 
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