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CAMBODIAN SATIVA

ledo

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flower~power

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i grew Cambodian… in fact spent a year with it sorting through the hermaphrodites finding a true female cloning it, and then growing it out :whip: in the end It barely got me high, it was like zero potency…but it really looked like it was going to be amazing. That’s when I learned, you cannot judge a book by its cover… I have pictures if you want to see it
 

H e d g e

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What's normal to me is: if any country legalize CANNABIS must be as growing a Rosemary plant, if not don't twist the English words! Or word "legalize"
I was saying this years ago while chucking bag seeds into a planter outside the police station.. we need decriminalisation, not legalisation. It just made it easier for ‘them’ to pollute what little was left, so sad to see the Thai military give away 1 million type 3 plants, that was the last nail.
 

ledo

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Is that male 100% Cambodian? If so you can take a cutting and reverse it with ethylene.
That male is 87.5% Cambodian / Laos & 12.5% Gambian same as all the female Gambodian I have going currently too

I bought a gallon of ethephon over a decade ago (not the diluted Florel shit); ethephon is a precursor to Ethylene…You can use it to thin fruit trees or flip males, amongst other things too… :)

I have a funny story though about Males in a garage once that had probably a thousand apples in there curing/ripening, but that’s for another time…. Haha
 

ahortator

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That male is 87.5% Cambodian / Laos & 12.5% Gambian same as all the female Gambodian I have going currently too

I bought a gallon of ethephon over a decade ago (not the diluted Florel shit); ethephon is a precursor to Ethylene…You can use it to thin fruit trees or flip males, amongst other things too… :)

I have a funny story though about Males in a garage once that had probably a thousand apples in there curing/ripening, but that’s for another time…. Haha
I have been able to encourage a Mango Zamal male to make female flowers with some ripe bananas and a plastic bag in order the ethyelene stay enough time to make effect. I ate the bananas just before they became overripe and replaced them. Sadly such strain is crossed with Skunk, so it was powerful but I didn't enjoy the smoke too much.
 

mexcurandero420

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I have been able to encourage a Mango Zamal male to make female flowers with some ripe bananas and a plastic bag in order the ethyelene stay enough time to make effect. I ate the bananas just before they became overripe and replaced them. Sadly such strain is crossed with Skunk, so it was powerful but I didn't enjoy the smoke too much.
They did that in the past in the Netherlands too, so you had Thai x Skunk, Lambsbread x Skunk, South-Indian x Skunk etc.
Seedsman had a very good strong Thai 18-20 weeks flowering period, but nowadays also crossed with Skunk.
 

ahortator

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They did that in the past in the Netherlands too, so you had Thai x Skunk, Lambsbread x Skunk, South-Indian x Skunk etc.
Seedsman had a very good strong Thai 18-20 weeks flowering period, but nowadays also crossed with Skunk.
Yes, sadly they cross everything x Skunk. I guess they do it to reduce the flowering time, the height and the stretching in flowering in order to make them more suitable for indoor growing. And also to reduce the intersex traits. But Zamal seems very dominant so I grew a crazy and wild growing male that spent 30 weeks flowering. It was not my case a from 3 seeds only one sprouted and it was that male, but I know the same strain is very hermie prone, as even the seedbank warned about that. So, why cross it with Skunk? Where is the advantage?
I know Superskunk very well as everybody grew it here in the early 2000's, but I developed a very strong dislike for such stink. I was able to recognise such undertone below the Zamal mango-carrot smell. The skunk stink was not very strong but definitely it was there. Also from my point of veiw the worse thing was the high was completely ruined. It was strong for sure, but not the clean nice and enjoyable high of the real sativas.
The seedbank claims the Zamal was crossed with a South India male. But here you have this that confirmed my fears:
 

ledo

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I am sorry but I am not able to take better pics with my cellphone.

May be not 100% pure landrace but "Cambodian #1 2024 Selfing / SE Asian All" Seeds courtesy from @ledo :tiphat::thank you:

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Pure but blend of Cambodian x Laotian, some of them are gonna be WILD, untamed but put in the work and I know you’re gonna find things extremely special bringing you back decades - thx for growing them my Spanish bro :)
 

ahortator

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Pure but blend of Cambodian x Laotian, some of them are gonna be WILD, untamed but put in the work and I know you’re gonna find things extremely special bringing you back decades - thx for growing them my Spanish bro :)
As far as there is no BLD genetics involved in the cross, I am very happy.

I really dislike to grow NLD plants, to discover later they are contaminated with modern hybrids that contains BLD/indica/Central Asian DNA. That's the reason I avoid hybrids and try to get only landraces. Nowadays even most "Hazes" contain some BLD genetics (from Norhtern Light and Skunk crosses, and so), althought people think they are pure sativas. I am not saying they are not good plants, but simply I am not interested in such stuff.

If it is a raw and unpolluted Cambodia x Laos is a rare treasure nowadays.
 

nepalnt21

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Yes, sadly they cross everything x Skunk. I guess they do it to reduce the flowering time, the height and the stretching in flowering in order to make them more suitable for indoor growing. And also to reduce the intersex traits. But Zamal seems very dominant so I grew a crazy and wild growing male that spent 30 weeks flowering. It was not my case a from 3 seeds only one sprouted and it was that male, but I know the same strain is very hermie prone, as even the seedbank warned about that. So, why cross it with Skunk? Where is the advantage?
I know Superskunk very well as everybody grew it here in the early 2000's, but I developed a very strong dislike for such stink. I was able to recognise such undertone below the Zamal mango-carrot smell. The skunk stink was not very strong but definitely it was there. Also from my point of veiw the worse thing was the high was completely ruined. It was strong for sure, but not the clean nice and enjoyable high of the real sativas.
The seedbank claims the Zamal was crossed with a South India male. But here you have this that confirmed my fears:
if it says it's genetically distant from sour diesel, i don't see how it can also show lots of skunk in it... i think (just a wild uneducated guess) their categories (berry, og, hemp, landrace, cbd, and skunk) might be inadequate to describe the entirety of the cannabis genepool.

and also, (nuther guess) just because you smell skunk smells it doesn't mean there's skunk #1 in it, right? didn't nevil say the extra skunky funk from super skunk came from the afghani? cause didn't sam weed out the very skunky stuff from skunk #1? not sure where the timelines intersect, js.

and idk... is it possible to find skunky thiols, or whtever they are, in pure tropical sativas?
 
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ahortator

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Is it the stuff of led05? If so,that's good stuff. Coz I remember he's the one who created it. Great breeder with a big heart! And probably the best grower in icmag..
Hi, @KAGNCHA
Yes, they are from ledo. I am sure they are the real stuff. He is a nice and generous man and a great breeder too.
if it says it's genetically distant from sour diesel, i don't see how it can also show lots of skunk in it... i think (just a wild uneducated guess) their categories (berry, og, hemp, landrace, and skunk) might be inadequate to describe the entirety of the cannabis genepool.

and also, (nuther guess) just because you smell skunk smells it doesn't mean there's skunk #1 in it, right? didn't nevil say the extra skunky funk from super skunk came from the afghani? cause didn't sam weed out the very skunky stuff from skunk #1? not sure where the timelines intersect, js.

and idk... is it possible to find skunky thiols, or whtever they are, in pure tropical sativas?
Hi,

I am not experienced in tropical sativas just because I cannot travel and most seedsbanks aren't accurate about the stuff they sell. Tropical landraces are not the best option for making seeds indoor. It is simply very difficult or even impossible to get a raw uncrossed landrace because people grow many strains together and they usually aren't concerned or don't care about NLD extinction. Most people contribute actively in this loss of biodiversity and even they feel happy and proud. If you can travel, someone usually have been there before you and he have destroyed everything carrying modern hybrid seeds.

But in my humble experience pure NLD, or at least the few I got and I think they were still pure, the smell was fruity and subtle. Not like commercial hybrids which most stink like Super Skunk or Critical from miles away. As those are the Skunks I have grown myself, along other unknown hybrids (people in the early 2000's didn't care about names and they usually forgot or mispelled them). Remember that a package of seeds usually cost the same amount a poor worker earn in one, two or even more days of hard work. So many people rely on seeds gifted which usually are unknown hybrids from friends with a really bad taste for weed.

About Phylos I think they have done things wrong since the beginning and they carry such fail. As they are not stupids I am sure they did it with some purpose. For a correct cladogram you need an outgroup. Humulus would have been a great outgroup for a Cannabis family tree. Instead they stablished strange categories with modern hybrids. It is like saying that Neanderthals carry a 3-4% of modern NewYorkers DNA when it is exactly the opossite.

But in a gross way you can see if a plant contains Skunk, Berry or OG Kush genetics, if you don't trust in yourself when you see thick buds, paddle wide dark leaflets, skunky stink and couchlocking numbing effects.

 

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