the KUSH thread

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Quoted from eskimo
here is one of mrkos pictures ..... Yarkhun Red Male


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That is one wispy plant , never seen anything like it . Hella delicate , ya know ? Would love to see an object next to it , fer scale comparison . Tha coloration is special, no doubt .
Maybe Mrkos could give a brief description .......

 

[Rolling_Stoned]

Howdy Great thread fellas! I am sprouting out 5 Hindu Kush seeds from Nirvana. I dont know if they are real kush or not but hopefully they're sweet. When I get a little farther along maybe ya'll could help me figure it out.

 

[kenned]

Hey peeps..

Would it maybe be possible to travel to the hindu kush regions in pakistan, or would simply be to dangerous??

 

[ngakpa]

people will have differing opinions in this I am sure -this is pretty essential reading for a non-national thinking of visiting anyway

FCO Travel Advice on Pakistan
http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front...7029390590&a=KCountryAdvice&aid=1013618386307


Still Current at: 15 September 2007
Updated: 13 September 2007ا

Pakistan

This advice has been reviewed and reissued with an amendment to the Summary (removing tsunami watch). The overall level of the advice has not changed.

SUMMARY

* We advise against all travel to areas where there are reports of military or militant activity. This applies particularly to: northern and western Balochistan, including the Sui/Dera Bugti and Kohlu areas; the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, including Waziristan; Swat (North West Frontier Province); and all border areas except for official crossing points. See the Terrorism and Sectarian Violence and Local Travel sections of this advice for more details.

* We advise against all but essential travel to Quetta (Balochistan) and we advise against using the rail network or bus services in the whole of Balochistan because of the unsettled security situation. See the Terrorism & Sectarian Violence section of this advice for more details.

* There is a high threat from terrorism and sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Since January 2007 there has been a series of attacks and suicide bombings targeted both at the authorities and at locations frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers. See the Terrorism & Sectarian Violence section of this advice for more details.

* In July 2007 the Pakistani security forces engaged in military action against militant Islamists occupying the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) and associated seminary in central Islamabad. The Pakistani authorities have since heightened security across the whole country, particularly in the tribal areas and at international hotels in Islamabad.

* You should avoid any demonstrations or large gatherings of people. You may wish to seek local advice on the latest situation from the Security Section of the British High Commission in Islamabad or the British Deputy High Commission in Karachi.

* The main type of incident for which British nationals required consular assistance in Pakistan in 2006 was to replace lost or stolen passports. However, assistance to victims of forced marriage or child abduction is also common. If you are concerned about either issue see: forced marriages and child abduction.

* We strongly recommend that you obtain comprehensive travel and medical insurance before travelling. You should check any exclusions, and ensure that your policy covers you for all the activities you want to undertake. See the General (Insurance) section of this advice and Travel Insurance for more details.


SAFETY AND SECURITY

Terrorism & Sectarian Violence

There is a high threat from terrorism throughout Pakistan.

There is reliable evidence that terrorists continue to target Western, including British, interests and individuals throughout Pakistan. Since January 2007 there has been a series of attacks and suicide bombings targeted both at the authorities and at locations frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers. These have included a suicide attack on the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad in January 2007 and an attempted bomb attack on Islamabad International Airport in February 2007. The Pakistani authorities have increased security throughout Pakistan due to the threat of further imminent attacks, including at international hotels in Islamabad.

You should satisfy yourself in advance of standards of security at your chosen hotel, and for up-to-date advice you should contact the Security Section of the British High Commission.

There has been a significant deterioration in the security situation across the whole country since July 2007, when the Pakistani security forces undertook military action against militant Islamists occupying the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) and associated seminary in central Islamabad. Since 12 July 2007, at least 180 people have been killed in suicide bombings in North West Frontier Province, Islamabad, North Waziristan and on the Balochistan/Sindh border. These have been targeted primarily on security forces, but other significant attacks have included:

* On 4 September 2007, two suicide attacks on a military bus and market in Rawalpindi killed at least 24 people.
* On 19 July 2007 a bomb attack on a convoy carrying Chinese engineers at Hub (Baluchistan/Sindh border) killed at least 22 people.
* On 17 July 2007 a suicide bomb attack on a lawyers’ rally in Islamabad killed at least 16 people.

The major cities are particularly vulnerable to indiscriminate bombing and other attacks, including kidnapping. Owing to high levels of security at Western embassies, international organisations and international hotels, more vulnerable targets such as clubs, restaurants (including Western style fast food outlets), places of worship and schools are at risk. Previous bomb attacks have sometimes involved consecutive explosions. On 2 March 2006, a bomb exploded outside the US Consulate in Karachi, killing several and injuring about 50 people. In 2006, there were also a number of bombings in Karachi and Lahore, including at locations frequented by Westerners.

We advise against all travel to areas where there are ongoing reports of military or militant activity. This applies particularly to Waziristan, and to northern and western Balochistan including the Sui/DeraBugti and Kohlu areas, and Swat (North West Frontier Province). You should avoid travel by bus (as well as rail) in Balochistan. We advise against all but essential travel to Quetta because of the unsettled security situation there. If you still plan to travel to Quetta, you should contact the Security section of the British Deputy High Commission, Karachi (00 92 21 582 7000) in advance for current advice.

There are intermittent surges in sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Incidents often escalate quickly and have included murders and suicide bombings. Attacks have occurred in Karachi, Islamabad, Quetta, Gilgit and the Northern Areas. The cities of central Punjab, as well as Quetta and Karachi, are at particular risk from Sunni-Shia violence. Visitors of recognisably Western origin should avoid the vicinity of mosques at busy prayer times, especially on Fridays.

For more information see: Security and General Tips and Risk of Terrorism when Travelling Overseas.

Crime

Beware of the risk of street crime and take personal security measures. Take particular care to safeguard your passport, bank cards, laptops and mobiles, particularly when travelling by public transport and when walking in crowded areas. There is an active black market in forged and stolen passports. Credit card fraud is common.

Criminal violence, including armed car-jacking, robbery, kidnap and murder, is common, especially in Karachi. Travellers have been offered drugged food and then robbed. You should be very careful about, and confident of your personal security arrangements throughout your visit.

For more information see: Victims of Crime Abroad.

Political Situation

Pakistan Country Profile

Political demonstrations and large gatherings of people for political or religious purposes occur regularly in major cities. These usually pass off peacefully but we recommend that you avoid all demonstrations or large gatherings of people. Presidential and parliamentary elections are currently pending. In the past there has been violence during election campaigns, and over 40 people were killed in political violence in May 2007.

LOCAL TRAVEL

If you have to travel to any of the regions listed below you or your travel agent should contact the authorities in advance. They may arrange police protection as necessary and will advise whether you need a No Objection Certificate issued by the Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

You should seek updates on the local security situation from local police, or travel agencies before you travel.

The Security sections of the High Commission in Islamabad (0092 51 201 2000) and the Deputy High Commission in Karachi (0092 21 582 7000) can also provide advice on the specific local security situation in those cities.

Much of Balochistan, rural Sindh and the North West Frontier Province, including the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and Agencies, have a high incidence of lawlessness.

Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA)

We advise against all travel to the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

North West Frontier Province (NWFP)

On 10 July 2007, there were attacks against International non-Governmental Organisations (INGOs) in the area of Batgram (North West Frontier Province), which sits on the main road from Abbottabad to Gilgit. Travellers in transit should remain alert. The UN co-ordinator has advised foreign staff to leave the area. All aid workers in the area should remain in touch with local UN co-ordination officials and the Pakistani authorities for the latest security advice.

We advise against all travel to Swat because of the unsettled security situation and you are also advised to avoid all road travel to Swat, Gilgit and Chitral at this time for the same reason. We do not advise against road travel to Skardu, Hunza and beyond if you fly to Gilgit first, or travel to the Kalash Valley if you fly to Chitral first. If travelling on the Karakoram Highway towards Hunza you are advised to travel in daylight hours as the road can be narrow, with sudden precipitous drops.

Border areas

Except for official border crossing-points, the authorities prohibit travel by foreigners within 10 miles of Pakistan’s international borders and the Kashmir Line of Control, and within 30 miles of the Afghan border in the Northern Areas.

Rail Travel

Nationalist militants regularly plant bombs on the rail network in Baluchistan. You should avoid using the rail network in Baluchistan.

Pakistan's railways have had a reasonable safety record, but you should be aware that there are risks associated with this mode of travel. In July 2005 and January/February 2006 there were serious rail accidents, with many fatalities, in Sindh and in Punjab as a result of sabotage. On 18 February 2007, a series of bombs exploded on a train bound from India to Pakistan.

Road Travel

Take particular care on long road journeys and when travelling cross-country. Local driving standards are erratic, especially at night, road conditions are poor and there is a risk of car-jacking.

When driving, it is advisable to lock all doors and keep the windows up. Use well-travelled, well-lit routes where possible. We recommend you do not purchase anything from street vendors or have contact with beggars while travelling by car.

For more general information see: Driving Abroad

Air Travel

In March 2007 PIA, the Pakistan national carrier, was subjected by the European Air Safety Committee to operational restrictions when flying into the EU. These restrictions were significantly eased in July 2007. You should contact your ticket provider to ensure this does not affect your journey.

Since1 September 2006, all passengers on domestic flights must present one of the following forms of photo ID at check-in: National Identity card (computerised), passport, driving licence, photo credit card, or school ID card (for children under the age of 18). This must be an original document, and must bear the same name as on your ticket.

LOCAL LAWS AND CUSTOMS

Local laws reflect the fact that Pakistan is a Muslim country. You should respect local customs and sensitivities at all times, especially during the holy month of Ramadan (which in 2007 will last for a month starting on or around 12 September) or if you intend to visit religious areas. During Ramadan eating, drinking and smoking between sunrise and sunset is forbidden for Muslims (though children under the age of puberty are not required to fast).

You should dress modestly at all times. Men and women should cover their shoulders and legs when in public. Women should cover their heads when entering mosques or other holy places, and when travelling in more rural areas.

If you or your father were born in Pakistan, you might be considered a Pakistani national by the authorities, even if you do not hold a Pakistani passport, and the British government might be prevented from providing the full range of consular assistance.

Consular assistance in remote areas might be delayed.

Importing alcohol and pork products is illegal. Homosexuality and co-habitation by an unmarried couple are illegal. Possession of even small quantities of illegal drugs can lead to imprisonment. Drug smuggling can attract the death penalty.

Do not take photographs at military establishments, airports or any infrastructure, including bridges and dams or from aircraft. In the past British nationals have been arrested on suspicion of ‘spying’. You should seek prior permission from any official present if you are photographing these types of places, especially in border areas.





this is a worst case scenario kind of article you would hope...

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/20...osque_raid.html

Pakistan in the Shadow of the Lal Masjid Raid
This article appears in the July 27, 2007 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
by Ramtanu Maitra

 

[Tom Hill]

Ngakpa,

No, I have never been to Pakistan or Afghanistan on seed quests etc, nor do I see the need to. They've been coming to my doorstep & laid in my hands for decades now. Not by folks coming from the bazaars, or by whitebreads on two week holidays, but by folks who have been putting lentils on the table since the 60's. I live among a community of growers that is conservatively estimated at 100,000 strong (I'm not talking about the internet here), & they have very deep ties/connections well rooted all around the globe in every nook & cranny. It would be very naive of anyone to imply that they were somehow better connected than these folks are collectively, simply because they are on the ground there & speak the language.

Commercial production has never been responsible for superb product, not anywhere & not ever, nor will it ever. When fistfuls of money is brought in, there is new incentive that displaces quality with quantity. Take the money away & leave the growers with not much but pride in the quality of his product when compared to his neighbors, & you will see quality on the rise again. This is true from Mendocino to Kathmandu. Sure, the commercial grower will pound his chest about how good his snowcap etc is, that's to be expected, but it doesn't make it so.

All due respect back at you, & sincerely, best of luck finding something that is truly outstanding.

Question- When I speak of the glory days of the imports to the growing communities of the Pacific Northwest do you know what I'm talking about? Were you there? What is your frame of reference when evaluating what you are seeing over in these regions?

Speaking of lacking evidence, can you show me some close up shots from the fields there that look anything like this?

 

[Raco]

Speaking of lacking evidence, can you show me some close up shots from the fields there that look anything like this?

jejejej!!
almost impossible to match.Sure he can´t
Bunch of rethorics...some ppl seem very knowledgeable
let the PICS speak by themselves
rethorics,rethorics ))))))))))))))))

 

[Tom Hill]

I was just wondering, because the majority of close-ups that I've seen from over there recently looks a lot more like hemp, than the ooey gooey golf balls of yesteryear. Plants like the above were a dime a dozen 20-30 years ago. Nothing has changed Ngakpa? I would enjoy very much SEEING some evidence of that.

 

[Raco]

Monkey Balls...:wink:

 

[XyZ]

Ngakpa,

No, I have never been to Pakistan or Afghanistan on seed quests etc, nor do I see the need to. They've been coming to my doorstep & laid in my hands for decades now. Not by folks coming from the bazaars, or by whitebreads on two week holidays, but by folks who have been putting lentils on the table since the 60's. I live among a community of growers that is conservatively estimated at 100,000 strong (I'm not talking about the internet here), & they have very deep ties/connections well rooted all around the globe in every nook & cranny. It would be very naive of anyone to imply that they were somehow better connected than these folks are collectively, simply because they are on the ground there & speak the language.

Commercial production has never been responsible for superb product, not anywhere & not ever, nor will it ever. When fistfuls of money is brought in, there is new incentive that displaces quality with quantity. Take the money away & leave the growers with not much but pride in the quality of his product when compared to his neighbors, & you will see quality on the rise again. This is true from Mendocino to Kathmandu. Sure, the commercial grower will pound his chest about how good his snowcap etc is, that's to be expected, but it doesn't make it so.

All due respect back at you, & sincerely, best of luck finding something that is truly outstanding.

Question- When I speak of the glory days of the imports to the growing communities of the Pacific Northwest do you know what I'm talking about? Were you there? What is your frame of reference when evaluating what you are seeing over in these regions?

Speaking of lacking evidence, can you show me some close up shots from the fields there that look anything like this?

always love to read your posts Tom, i feel your words are coming from the heart, you rock man!
..and the pics there are just, hmm don't find the real words lmao... lets say, Unforgettable

 

[kenned]

Nice pics you keep throwing up, Tom Hill!!!!

Is the plant a kush?

 

[XyZ]

The Deep chunk is an Afghani hash-plant

 

[Tom Hill]

Decades ago bud wasn't worth what it is now monetarily speaking. Finished product didn't move very far out of the neighborhood & you better bet it had to be good if you were moving it locally. Competition was fierce & the pride that came with growing high quality product ran very high. After all, your neighbors knew where to find your ass & all product came with the usual guarantee. The competition to make a living locally amongst the crowd is the stuff that the likes of seed hording was born from. They would trade bud for a nice dinner at the local restaurant, or even at the gas pump. It was their own form of currency & still is but... Nowadays, their product is much more likely to bring profit regardless of how good it is, demand is higher than ever, it's just a question of how far it must travel. Increasing demand & the introduction of massive export ability kills quality control to a massive extent, & the guy that's growing the best hasn't got quite the juice & respect that he used to. Not everyone has the high end market like the Kush heads of LA do, certainly the traditional cannabis growing regions do not. Quality gets replaced with quantity in this situation, almost without exception, as long as you can still get rid of it.

Translate that into the required languages, it's happened almost everywhere & none of us is immune to this.

I'm still rooting for the collector & if 1 in 30 lines that he brings is high quality then he will have done well & should be praised, should certainly be encouraged regardless. But he might also accept the odds of finding something of high quality these days, & accept the fact that those odds have fallen pretty drastically over the past few decades in such high profile regions... It's the damn planes, trains, automobiles, & poor schmucks at the end of the line on a beasters deal that drive this nightmare of ours.

 

[Guest]

Decades ago bud wasn't worth what it is now monetarily speaking. Finished product didn't move very far out of the neighborhood & you better bet it had to be good if you were moving it locally. Competition was fierce & the pride that came with growing high quality product ran very high. After all, your neighbors knew where to find your ass & all product came with the usual guarantee. The competition to make a living locally amongst the crowd is the stuff that the likes of seed hording was born from. They would trade bud for a nice dinner at the local restaurant, or even at the gas pump. It was their own form of currency & still is but... Nowadays, their product is much more likely to bring profit regardless of how good it is, demand is higher than ever, it's just a question of how far it must travel. Increasing demand & the introduction of massive export ability kills quality control to a massive extent, & the guy that's growing the best hasn't got quite the juice & respect that he used to. Not everyone has the high end market like the Kush heads of LA do, certainly the traditional cannabis growing regions do not. Quality gets replaced with quantity in this situation, almost without exception, as long as you can still get rid of it.

Translate that into the required languages, it's happened almost everywhere & none of us is immune to this.

I'm still rooting for the collector & if 1 in 30 lines that he brings is high quality then he will have done well & should be praised, should certainly be encouraged regardless. But he might also accept the odds of finding something of high quality these days, & accept the fact that those odds have fallen pretty drastically over the past few decades in such high profile regions... It's the damn planes, trains, automobiles, & poor schmucks at the end of the line on a beasters deal that drive this nightmare of ours.

Tom a lot of these people dont know what your talking about because of there age. I here all the time that the weed now is so much stronger than what we smoked. HOG WASH. I rember bud coming out of CALI and New Mexico that would blow the doors off most of the eleits of today. not all but most. There for I have to agree with what your saying, it certainaly seems that way to me

 

[ngakpa]

Hi - completely agree about the current fabricated bollocks about "super-potent cannabis" etc. ... the most ridiculous non-sequitur when it comes to the question of ending prohibition - regulated market will allow for control of sale to minors, labeling re. strength and all that... not to mention fair trade and prosperity for some of the poorest countries in the world etc. etc.

About the photos - fair play, you are laying down the gauntlet on that one, challenge accepted etc. - watch this space, if I don't have 100% on-topic photos of mind-blowing Kush beauties with you before let's say this January then either I've been abducted by a randy homesick Yeti or I've married a Pashtun princess

and let's be clear I am not pretending to anyone I am an expert - cf. the Purple Afghan thread - I am just a traveler who bothers to find out about places I visit

my point about nothing changes was about the "Pashtun Belt" and the FATA (not about SE Asia) in particular the indigenous charas culture... there are however areas in Pakistan and Afghanistan where plenty has changed in terms of how people have had to grow, either due to police pressure, pressure to grow opium etc. but that is mostly as of 2002 in one area, and as of 9/11 in Wakhan and Afghan Hindu Kush...

higher quality hashish in my experience always commands a higher price, in every country I have visited... I saw three types of cut hash in Pakistan: in Lahore there was a lot cut with henna; in NWFP there was stuff cut with oil (cooking oil - though traditionally it was oil from pressed seeds which would be used... does not sell well) and also once cut with some kind of gum I think - destined for export I guess... grade dictates price

smoked with plenty of people from all walks in Pakistan, including plenty of down to earth highly intelligent people twice my age or more - many of them were lifelong smokers, some daily, some occasional, some farmers... not one of the men (or women) I am thinking of were "chest thumpers"... among them were people who were prepared to admit that the drop in production in the Chitral area since 2000-ish was causing a serious loss of livelihood for the villages... none of them when asked by me mentioned seeing a deterioration in the quality of strains over the years, none of them in our conversation said they had seen a drop in the quality of "high end" first grade charas or garda... ... this included for example Mazar-i-Sharif charas which some of the older Chitrali charsis (e.g. one Chitrali Scout I met, a true gent) we stayed with had not seen in years and years, but were immediately able to recognise as top notch Afghan and smoked with visible relish

to be honest though Tom, given the myriad contacts you have surely you would have more to go on than the pictures of ropey wild Yarkhun males etc. above as proof of the decline in quality... not trying to goad you here, am simply not clear for my own benefit how the network you allude to would relate to places like NWFP and Afghanistan... I don't mean this to be personal or anything, but inferring from what you wrote, IME hippies and/or backpackers with dreads get treated with a fair amount of disdain by people on the Subcontinent, and especially in Pakistan - not that I am a fan of prejudice, but that's IME basically a fact

as for rhetoric - call it that if you will, no problem... photographic blizzard will come with the seasons (if you're wondering - celluloid from last trip is with a friend in the UK, honest guvna) ... I'll be getting myself one of them there digital camera things soon enough

yeh, so I am happy to meet the challenge - the truth will out etc.

Ngakpa

 

[mriko]

also ngapka i am curious to ure religion my friend as i am muslim and a 5th of the world is muslim and the muslim community would NOT class sufi as islam , yes it is tolerated in but let me say this THIS IS NOT REAL ISLAM, and i frankly casnt see y u say that, if u liek the idea or concept of sufi then fair enuff but for u to say categorically that this is real islam is bullshit, thats like me a non white spekaing for the white race saying that the KKK is what white people r really like, which is bull and everyone non white thinking that im corect, its ignorant

umpf... Everyone has its own conception of what is "real" Islam. Some sick dogs think that cutting throat or blowing up muslims is real Islam you know ?
This is almost wahabbi lingo, quit that bro ! Ramzan Mubarak !

By the way Ngakpa, Sufis are not always that cool you know, as in Iraq for instances some Sufi groups joined armed Sunni resistance against the US invasion.

but that's not the point here anyway.
I totally disagree as well with all these legends about Pre-Soviet strains and all that rubbish stuff. Nothing else than marketing rubbish ! When I read about wide-leaf strains being imported to Chitral and Kashmir during Russo-Afghan War it just makes me laugh hard ! Kashmir hash is mostly made out of Sativa strains and the indica genes that might have been introduced there would have been so from Kashgaria through the charas caravans. Same is for Chitral area, although strong links are to be supposed with Badakhshani and Nuristani strains, but dating much before the Russo-Afghan war !

More, I would say that the continuous instability that have prevailed in Afghanistan these past decades has actually PRESERVED the local gene pool.

No, the quality has gone way far downhill worldwide, & it's the swelling demand that seems to have played the larger part in driving this. I truly wish this was only a myth, but it's not.

When such thing happens, I would say that it is rather, and mostly, because of the growing repression and also too many bloody commercial western strains spread around eh ? Too many times in too many places assholes have brought genes from home thinking that theirs was better than those of these "backward peasant" thus ruining the local genepool.
I remember some years ago while roaming Rumbur valley in search of some genetics, I met a grower who had nice looking plants in his garden. I was at thepoint to ask wether he had some seeds to spare when I was told he got the seeds from a Canadian guy called Jack. MMwwaaaargh ! Fooking Canadian Jack ! was so upset...
See Kerala as well, because of repression, from backyard family grown, the production shifted to large criminal plantaiton deep in the hills, with standardized strains...

Commercial production has never been responsible for superb product, not anywhere & not ever, nor will it ever.

Hmmm, maybe you should go a little beyond your doorstep... Afghanistan yields absolutely top notch commercial hash which will put to shame many of the ice/water or i-don't-know-what western hash.

When fistfuls of money is brought in, there is new incentive that displaces quality with quantity.

Everybody not the same, some stick to the quality, whatever the money !

here is one of mrkos pictures ..... Yarkhun Red Male


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That is one wispy plant , never seen anything like it . Hella delicate , ya know ? Would love to see an object next to it , fer scale comparison . Tha coloration is special, no doubt .
Maybe Mrkos could give a brief description .......[/QUOTE]

That is a small plant here, maybe 30-40cm or so if memory serves.
Was in private garden in Yarkhun valley. the guy has a bit less than 100 plants, but they had poor feeding. most were witha main bud (grown quite squeezed together) and below 1.20 meters tall.

PLants grown out of seeds picked there were of another dimension eheh, with one reaching above 3 meters.




Irie !

 

[JimmyEatWorld]

Hi all, nice thread !

Has anyone here have any issues of "Journal of Industrial Hemp" ?
In Volume 9,Number 2 - 2004 there is a paper called :

"Folk Methodology of Charas (Hashish) Production
and its marketing at Afridi Tirah,Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA),Pakistan"
by Muhammad Hamayun,Zabta Khan Shinwari.

anyone has this paper ?

 

[kenned]

hey..

What a great thread this is.. (except for the folk who kept spamming the thread with posts that are totally off-topic..)

But I was wondering about something...
How do they grow the herb down there in pakistan, afghanistan etc?

I mean, do they grow, like in public, compeeting at who gets to grow the best kush, or is it more like secret grows in their backyard?

And if its only in secret (meaning their backyard) how is it possible for them to keep the standarts of the kush plant so high?

sorry if its a strange/stupid question, but nevertheless I hope someone knows the answer..

best regards,
Kenned

 

[Guest]

if you read the thread you would have your ansewer already.

 

[mriko]

kenned, plants are grown in fields, or in private "backyard" patches (Hindu Kush range also has a large population of wild strains).
There's no such thing as "Kush" strains there, such as it is understood here. There are Swati strains, chitrali, badakhshani, panjshiri, Mazari, Kandahari, and so on.
How they doto keep standards high ? simple, they have hundreds of years old experience!

Yeah Jimmy, that one paper looks great ! can't manage to save the bucks for it until now, but I hope I can buy it within 2 weeks. Will post about it for sure !

Irie !

Irie!

 

[kenned]

mriko--

thanks alot! Great info! I hope its not to much of a problem if I from time to time ask another or two questions, that might already been have asked..

And to grizz.. Sure I could read the whole thread. But there are 20 pages with a whole lot of text, and because I'm am from Denmark and not usually speaking english, it just seems as quite a lot of reading to me...

best regards,
kenned