*The K.I.S.S. Method*

[sidewing]

Besides I'm not here to roast a thread, I'm here to help those just starting cuz I've experienced and gone thru a lot with the line. As stated anything I say is my opinion, and I'm not gaining anything from being here, my garden functions just fine, as does my life without posting. Point is if I don't offer actual experience from a wider perspective, people will be stuck being led by a blind man retro, and then when they have issues, you're gonna offer them advice that only makes things worse, or simply state "it works, you're doing something wrong". It's clear you have no experience with actual plant knowledge, you don't know what a plant needs or how much, instead of wasting my time on you, I'll simply ignore you, and I suggest you do the same, and we can agree to disagree.

thanks for the GH feed chart audiohi. I'm sure a lot of people haven't seen it, as they just follow what the thread says. glad to see the actual GH feedchart says to run mostly maxigrow for the first week of transition.. which makes sense since the plant is not technically in bloom at that stage yet.

 

[stoned40yrs]

I stopped using MB because my plants yellowed up the first few weeks of bloom. Used 7g/gal with 150ppm well water in coco with blumats.

 

[Maj.Cottonmouth]

I have used MB for many many grows and I have never seen this 2 weeks of flower yellowing. I have used it in DWC and coco and I have never had this issue.

 

[sourpuss]

Ive had bpth yellow early and not Using maxi. It was more related to my strength of feed. Also had mag def. Maxi aint perfect. But its damn close and works very well...

 

[sidewing]

when i had it i was using at recommended strength of 1tsp per gallon. which was 1.7ec, if i went higher than 1.7ec the ec would rise as water level dropped, indicating ec levels were too high. no point in arguing over something so silly, the point was that retro seems to not want to admit is some people have issues running it as recommended, some dont.. not everyone's conditions are the same. that being said, i've pulled high quality herb from maxigrow/maxibloom. it obviously does work, otherwise it wouldnt have been around for so long. and its simple compared to other bottled nutrient lines where you need multiple parts.

 

[mojave green]

Premix @ 1 or 2 tablespoon per quart mason jar. Mix in rez to desired ec.
KISS

 

[RetroGrow]

Keep the flaming comments to yourself please. Because you are in no position to offer advice unless it's "retros method".

Yeah, I'll stop commenting on your inanities when you stop trolling/crapping the thread. It's NOT my method. It's Ioni Botani's method. It's his thread, not mine, and it works perfectly well just as stated on page one. Many very experienced and accomplished growers have used it successfully for years. That's why it's a popular thread, and has been going for six years. If you managed to screw up a grow using it, you did something wrong. Your mistake, not his. It's unfortunate that a thread this valuable gets mucked up by trolls who come into it six years after the fact, and saying "well no, you should actually do it my way. My way's better". Like I said, why don't you start your own thread using your/papaduc's method, instead of mucking up this one continuously? This is the K.I.S.S. thread, and the whole basis of the thread is "keep it simple stoner", with the core idea to use a single, inexpensive nutrient line, MaxiBLOOM throughout the entire grow. There are a thousand other variations/growing methods, but all of them are off topic. They are not what this thread is about. It seems this fundamental fact escapes you for some reason. I'm sure we are all waiting with baited breath to see your thread about "sidewing's method". As far as your rambling about your vast experience, no one really cares. I'm pretty sure (positive, actually) that I am more experienced than you, just as some of the other growers you've been lecturing to are. It's a proven method, your input notwithstanding. As someone commented to me, you really are full of yourself. It's laughable, really. You said you were leaving the thread, so we see how much your word means. Can't wait to see your thread. Not really....sarcasm intended.

 

[sidewing]

I dont even know what to say to you, its like you hear nothing and your responses are copy/pasted. I dont even think you read posts made. its funny how saying that anyway i respond is knowledge from personal experience, you take as bragging about vast experience. Im very humble and my intention is always to help others. I guess there's a reason so many avoid this site like the plague. anyway, like you said the thread is 6 years old. any info needed can be found in the thread, and if anyone has a problem instead of coming here for help (because it'd be considered off topic to post anything not related to strictly maxibloom (yes even koolboom) on a public forum).. it's good to know you'll be here with your vast knowledge and experience to tell them "it works, you're doing something wrong" and leave it at that.

I actually said I'd leave my own opinions about a better method out of the thread and would respond to posts made regarding the post, since you wish to misrepresent me, but like I said I'm not gaining anything from being here, and frankly I'm tired of seeing your nonsense broken record responses. so don't worry i'll unsubscribe from the thread right after i post this reply. ever since ive joined in on this thread you've been a major beacon of negativity always hostile toward anyone that has anything to say other than "yeah i use it and it works great".

 

[sidewing]

[duplicate]

 

[RetroGrow]

Keep telling yourself that. You are a victim. Boo hoo.

 

[DoDad]

I just flipped a couple of days ago. If I happen to be one of those who has yellowing leaves the first two weeks of flowering what do I do?

 

[Grassachusetts7]

I have the same question dodad. I'm looking to use straight Maxi through to finish!!!! But if I were to run into fading or yellowing during stretch I'm hoping I can remedy the issue with some Liquid Karma I have kicking around and a small dose of cal/mag. Like I said though this is last resort. As my intentions are Maxi only.

I have 3 small bushes in 5 gal coco/perlite Hempy. First timer for KISS and Hempy. I must say that the garden has never looked better!!!

 

[Grassachusetts7]

I just noticed the thread on the sale of GH to Scott's! Pretty interesting!!

 

[Bobbo4200]

Started using straight Maxibloom from veg to harvest on my coco ladies for about a year or so ago, I don't think I have ever run into the pre-yellow fade 2 weeks into bloom before. I am using an RO with the MB also. Not on anyone's side, or trying to razz anyone up-just chiming in with my .02

 

[DoDad]

I have the same question dodad. I'm looking to use straight Maxi through to finish!!!! But if I were to run into fading or yellowing during stretch I'm hoping I can remedy the issue with some Liquid Karma I have kicking around and a small dose of cal/mag. Like I said though this is last resort. As my intentions are Maxi only.

I have 3 small bushes in 5 gal coco/perlite Hempy. First timer for KISS and Hempy. I must say that the garden has never looked better!!!

I don't know anything you don't, but I think the answer they would tell is Maxigrow.

I'm totally guessing they will tell us if we see yellowing, run MG until they either stop yellowing, or until week 3 of flowering whichever comes first.

{{fingers crossed}} We don't have this issue.

I agree, Hempy plus Maxibloom = Reeely GOOD!!

 

[Joint Lock]

Im a oldie under a new handle .

My proven modified KISS .Thus for 5 gallon DWC

Schedule (BLOOM) (All measurements per 5 gallons of res)
Week 1 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , 1g Epsom Salts , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 2 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 3 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme
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Week 4 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 5 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 6 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1. 5oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 7 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Monster Bloom @ 1.0 grm , 1g Epsom salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 8 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Monster Bloom @ 1.0 grm , 1g Epsom salts , 1 oz Hormex ,Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 9 - ***FLUSH*** - Ph 5.7 Water , 1g Epsom salts , 1 Tspoon Mollasses

 

[Joint Lock]

Im a oldie under a new handle .

My proven modified KISS .Thus for 5 gallon DWC

Schedule (BLOOM) (All measurements per 5 gallons of res)
Week 1 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , 1g Epsom Salts , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 2 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 3 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme
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Week 4 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 5 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1.5 oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 6 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Big bud 1. 5oz or (3 grm dry) , 1g Epsom Salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 7 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Monster Bloom @ 1.0 grm , 1g Epsom salts , 1 oz Hormex , Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 8 - Ph 5.8 Water: 15g Maxibloom , 2.5 oz liquid or 1tsp powder Kelp , 1 Tspoon Mollasses , Monster Bloom @ 1.0 grm , 1g Epsom salts , 1 oz Hormex ,Pinch of Pond Zyme

Week 9 - ***FLUSH*** - Ph 5.7 Water , 1g Epsom salts , 1 Tspoon Mollasses

The Maxibloom can be upped to 20-25g at your own risk on this schedule. I don't go past 20g on strains like Trainwreck, Blue dream , IBG ,C99 ,SWT

The flush can be done with pure water . but the mag levels at 1-3 grams is really nothing to worry about . I notice nice fade on my ladies week 8-9 .My blue widows go pure purple with this method. Yeilds are around 12-16 oz per 600w w/4-6 ladies flowered at 24in tall. Topped into bushes and lollied week before flower and again at day 14 in bloom

 

[sourpuss]

Maxi boom only works..... I started using kool bloom and floralicious as well and wouldnt ever stop using either.... to me the 3 products together used properly cant be beat.....

 

[Grassachusetts7]

Yes I'm going to taper the Maxi a bit and bring in the powder Koolbloom later in flower. That would be my only variation.

 

[nukklehead]

I don't know anything you don't, but I think the answer they would tell is Maxigrow.

I'm totally guessing they will tell us if we see yellowing, run MG until they either stop yellowing, or until week 3 of flowering whichever comes first.

{{fingers crossed}} We don't have this issue.

I agree, Hempy plus Maxibloom = Reeely GOOD!!

Agree all the above and heres my experience.. 5th MB Hempy coco presently on ... various strains.. noticed some strains yellowed and some didnt. . Gave a pinch of MG to the ones that needed it ( as noted above) and seemed to bring them out of it. I grew in soil for 8+ years all different ways (organic, not organic, pre bagged, made my own you name it) and I think what gave me the worst headache was the horrible city water I had to deal with ( High PH, MG Cal,, who the hell knows) .. Decided to try soil with R/O and kept running into other problems ( mg def?, Ca def? adding cal mag, subtracting cal mag, still high PH, Ph adjusting etc.) Finally found Hempy Kiss and decided to give it a shot.. FOR ME I think it helped balance out my problems, the ph was always pretty close, I used city water
which was "contaminated" with lots of Mg and Ca so never had to
supplement and I have been a pretty happy camper since... Im not sure but I think some people run into problems using R/O with Hempy Kiss and have troubles mitigating the Mg Ca problem/deficiency that comes with it as the R/O strips the water
of these elements for the most part... Everybodys water ( and strains) are different and I think thats where some of the variables come into play with the Hempy Kiss method. No advice to add here just experience... You always have to play a balance act when growing our girls... aint she fun.....