Caravaggio
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you can bank on that shit
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you can bank on that shit
Samples were handed to me without telling me which was which.
I could easily tell the difference between flushed and unflushed but I was also able to correctly call Unflushed, flushed, Grown with tap water and flushed with tap water (350ppm), grown with tap water and flushed with R/O water and grown with r/o flushed with r/o. In short, I was able to line the bud up from harshest to smoothest and then was told how each had been grown. All the same strain, all from the same room and run.
Can the next several hundred people tell? No. What they CAN tell is the result of smoking R/O grown and R/O flushed/faded after a couple weeks as compared to anything else. Takes a while to 'feel' the difference in the body/lungs.
Dispensary marijuana, like Starbucks espresso, is for the woefully uneducated.
suppose it depends on which dispensaries you got to. there are two here that regularly have a few serious examples of well grown dank on hand at any give time. your test sounds kind of made up bro, but maybe its not. i mean really? someone went through the trouble to do all those various combinations of various different fade outs and flushes with and without ro to have you test the results? cmon. all of the various ways of flushing that we were just talking about, your friends and you coincidently just happened to test all of once upon a time. i dont know. im gonna say pics and back up collaborators or it didnt happen. lol certainly someone that geeked to run a grow room with all that different shit going on in one run is on the forums. maybe they could chime in your defense. the idea that someone would have all those different recipes going in one room at once is highly suspicious sounding to me. but yeah maybe, i suppose anything is possible but which is more likely? you made that shit up on the spot or someone really did that tedious of a grow experiment. im putting money on you pulling our chain. nice try though.
That's what I've been trying to tell them. I can tell immediately if herb is flushed or not. One hit.
DarkGreenGoo..
Member
I have a question for you guys.
I am using Maxibloom in Coco Hempy buckets. 7g per gallon. Ph of 5.8
I have been using a modified H3AD's formula for a few years and always get great yields.
Since switching to Maxibloom, my buds are very small for day 30 of flower, and I am getting Mag deficiency, even though I am adding Cal-mag + at 4 ML Per gallon. Some people I know have to add Calmag at 10ML per gallon just to not get problems using Maxibloom.
Anyone else have these issues? Looks like this round of plants for me may go straight to edibles due to poor yield.
I am using Maxibloom in Coco Hempy buckets. 7g per gallon. Ph of 5.8
I have been using a modified H3AD's formula for a few years and always get great yields.
Since switching to Maxibloom, my buds are very small for day 30 of flower, and I am getting Mag deficiency, even though I am adding Cal-mag + at 4 ML Per gallon. Some people I know have to add Calmag at 10ML per gallon just to not get problems using Maxibloom.
Anyone else have these issues? Looks like this round of plants for me may go straight to edibles due to poor yield.
DONAJTHEIII
Member
I use 6/9 with my 50ppm tap water and never get cal def I think maxi has a good amount of CA in it too. Havent ran maxibloom but you should def check the e.c/ppm of 7g with your water all mixed up. I get CA lockout though if theres too much nitrogen so Im pretty sure this is whats happening to you. I dilute the formula and add back some tap water to get the ec lower for the next couple of waterings. Your seeing signs of cal def from ca lockout due to nitrogen tox. is what im concluding w/o photos. The small buds would also be explained from too much nitrogen. Are you using tap water ? no need for cal-mag either way bro im pretty sure the cal mags just messing things up def wouldnt go up to 10ml a gal lol but a maxibloomer will chime in.
My advice would be to go with nothing but maxibloom at 1.0-1.2 ec next watering with adequate amnts. of runoff
I think you should keep your ec. no higher than 1.2 when using maxibloom so check that. Ph drift between 5.6-6.2 and you should be good.
lower end of ph zone= more CA uptake
higher end of ph zone = more MG uptake
AJAE
DarkGreenGoo..
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I am using RO water.
I guess I will try straight Maxibloom no calmag for the next few feedings.
Here are pictures of them at Day 27, both HSO Blue Dream
I guess I will try straight Maxibloom no calmag for the next few feedings.
Here are pictures of them at Day 27, both HSO Blue Dream
DarkGreenGoo..
Member
Adding amino acids to improve the calcium uptake may help you more then adding cal mag, but I agree with donajIII overall. For whatever reason (there could be many) the calcium is not available for the plant. If you're killing off the new root growth with high ppms for example, the plant won't be able to take up calcium. Again, many things cause root growth to die off, but that's what I'd look at before adding more cal mag.
I do add back tap water into my ro water as well. I do 50/50. It adds back some trace elements including calcium, and helps to keep ph stable. I just figured I'd add that little tip as well. I don't think that's the solution for you though, just something I feel is beneficial to me.
Triacontanol throughout (Canna Boost, or other) and Bloombastic in flower. Triacontanol is a powerful growth hormone. You can get it straight/cheap @ MBFerts. It really works. Aspirin is also a growth hormone. 325 Mg. per gallon throughout.
which is the same growth hormone found in alfalfa meal. you can buy a box of alfalfa meal and brew a tea with it and get the same/better results at a fraction of the cost.
alfalfa meal and sea kelp are responsible for all high end 'boost' products with their growth hormones.
i also have not have any CA/MG problems with maxigrow/maxibloom and RO water. seems to me that adding calmag is causing your issue because its throwing the ratios off. calmag also has nitrogen usually. blue dream is a cal/mg hog and will take a lot of it. but i think if you are running proper EC levels and changing your res once a week with fresh powder you shouldnt be seeing any issues. i run my EC at 1.4-1.7 in flower under a 1k and i find that is a good level. any higher and the plant drinks more than it eats. any lower and the opposite.
on another note im starting week 4 of flower and i decided to switch from maxigrow to maxibloom. going off a gut feeling. so the maxigrow all through flower has ceased for the time being. plants look fanastic thus far though, dense bud growth, green foliage. plants are ideal in every aspect. the stretch is done and the buds are filling in so the ratios in maxibloom should be sufficient now.
I'll stay away from alfalfa meal, thank you. I don't want any part of alfalfa stem nematodes. You can buy triacontanol very cheaply @ MBFerts. "Boost" is a convenience thing, not a necessity. However, it really works, making bigger, harder buds, and the plants finish earlier, by anywhere from 3-7 days, strain dependent.
boost is grossly overpriced for minimal effect from my experience with it. if you like spending $100 a cycle then to each their own. never had any problems with alfalfa stem nematodes. i use down to earth alfalfa meal.
im past the point of the 'miracle additive' stage in my growing. i cover the basics, and keep the roots and foliage healthy. keep the enviroment stable and light abundant. thats all i need. to each their own.
im past the point of the 'miracle additive' stage in my growing. i cover the basics, and keep the roots and foliage healthy. keep the enviroment stable and light abundant. thats all i need. to each their own.
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I agree with the above poster, cal mag almost always has N and people use it unnecessarily throwing off ratios creating or exacerbating problems they were trying to avoid/fix. Cal mag is one of the nute industries biggest scams. Most base nutes, maxibloom included, has enough Ca, usually when someone thinks they need cal mag a pinch of epsoms is all that's really needed. I dint think that's the case here. I second trying to feed @ 1.2ec...maybe give them a good flush with 1/4 strength nutes if you are in coco and proceed with 1.2...good luck
No.
Floralicious+ isn't for boosting bud size it's for humic acids. Think terpene production and increased nutrient uptake.
