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Clone those plants as much as possible and take em somewhere else. I would not use your cloner cause they can live in hydro units too. This way you have all your genetics safe. Get the Imid and replace your epic soil with bagged potting soil. Were these planted in the epic soil? The aphids must of came in the soil :( not so epic.
 

SmellyFlorist

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The pics on the white screen, those bugs where on the rims of the pots... does that really matter...

Also noticed some flyers, they had flat wings on their backs when resting, I believe these two be fungus gnats...

Honestly... this feels like another of those "give up" moments... How fucking hard do I have to try to just get a run under my belt.... fucking bulldust I tell you...
 

DrFever

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Dam you got to make sure all soils you buy are clean even if you have to buy used BBQ sterilize the soil then you can re introduce stuff
i have never fought with aphids it used to be un herd of only out door not sure how far the plants are but take your clones if thats the plan then get a big bucket fill it little over 1/4 full of boiling water then fill the rest with cold so its rather warm to the touch and try to drown them fuckers
 

SmellyFlorist

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Fuck...

Iv got everything these plants dont want.... lol

Maybe I should take a hint from them....

Out of all these creatures I have here... how come I dont have any good ones... you know, the ones that kill the bad ones...

Fuck what the fuck else do I need to do...
 

SmellyFlorist

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Dam you got to make sure all soils you buy are clean even if you have to buy used BBQ sterilize the soil then you can re introduce stuff
i have never fought with aphids it used to be un herd of only out door not sure how far the plants are but take your clones if thats the plan then get a big bucket fill it little over 1/4 full of boiling water then fill the rest with cold so its rather warm to the touch and try to drown them fuckers

@Dr.... thanks for checking in... even if I bought it I wouldnt trust it... this is africa remember... what do you mean by "BBQ".... the planta are all in my bedroom[cloner in shower]... what, RA's dont like warm water....? dude, dont mistake my tone :tiphat: I just want some fucking chronic you know... otherwise I need to go hate some stoopid shitty job to earn some leaves to buy some decent flowers with.... fucksakes
 

Rooibard

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Sorry to hear about ur latest pest issue! Has anyone tried Spinosad on fighting RAs? They put that stuff into dogs and cats tik pills so shouldnt be bad for u either... For FG larvae get Margaret Robertson Biological larvicide; thats the mozzie dunks around here.
Maybe... Just laying it out there... Maybe u should consider moving into coco and Bio Bizz? I know u dont like the idea on buying bottles and such but for time being till ur budget is sorted and mind clear?
Or then heat sterilize all soil and introduce life back in as mentioned...

Peace
 

SmellyFlorist

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@Red.. howzit. MMmmmm maybe I should, maybe get like 25kgs of coco, fuck, Im just sure as not parking any where close to that shop... spoke to her today, ordered all the crap... Im defo picking up the bioneem, biobloom, kelpak, and silicon plus... all thats bout a k... but I went with the 8inch fan[metal] she has to order the 8inch filter thou... fuck over making fuct up shit, just buy the damb thing. Just not sure how Im gona carry heaps of shit... Im no "Spies"... lol

But jeeebus do I wanna fuck shit up... proper.

Anyways heres some pics from the am... before the whole bug issue

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EM1.. not looking like it should... must adshmit its 2 days over 7...

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Took these the day my sibling left for london...

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This is a blue dream HSO s1 clone... its got that crinkle Iv mentioned before....none of these cheese have shown anything like this...

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And a room shot... ignore clones on left....
 

SmellyFlorist

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lol, I meant the clones on the right... stage right... haha

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And then the next set.... in that "epic" soil I fucking hacked to cook up and wait on.... aphid fucks been on em rims.... euw

Other than the bugs, shit actually does look half decent, I reckon they look better than they did a week ago... forgot to mention I topped all of them two days before transplant... I think the green looks kinda healthy... defo not the super rich dark green that say, lapides get..... Mmmmmm damb you lapides, your epic soil, your chronic buds and most of all your worms.... [shakes first angrily across the ocean]
 

DoubleTripleOG

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Sorry to hear about ur latest pest issue! Has anyone tried Spinosad on fighting RAs? They put that stuff into dogs and cats tik pills so shouldnt be bad for u either... For FG larvae get Margaret Robertson Biological larvicide; thats the mozzie dunks around here.
Maybe... Just laying it out there... Maybe u should consider moving into coco and Bio Bizz? I know u dont like the idea on buying bottles and such but for time being till ur budget is sorted and mind clear?
Or then heat sterilize all soil and introduce life back in as mentioned...

Peace


I've tried spinosad to no avail. That was on outdoor plants though. After a through drench, and through soaking with a pump sprayer, the next day I still had fliers, flying around under the canopy........bastards!!
 

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@Mirac.... thanks for checking back in, much appreciated... that worm I can across, didnt have a black head, wasn't grub like, looked more like an eel.. thin and slender... no more than 5mm in length... ??
So root aphids have 6 legs tail pipe?
and soil mites 8 legs and no pipes... ?? check....

@Lady... still no neem, only from that one shop... and peeps I know keep changing their arrangements so I can get this 'donation' over and down with... want my fan now fucksakes....

@Retobro.... right

Iv looked through some clear cups, bottom inch, cant see shit...

But

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This morning I came across these.... on the lips of my buckets....
WTF...

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These last two are of a juvi... but they were all on the rims on the buckets.... and also on the lips of my mom pots...

I have no idea what these are... but they look like some kind of aphid.........????????????????????????????????


Definitely root aphids! Sorry! Six legs and tailpipes. Actually some of the best RA pix I have seen. Get you some Imidcloprid ASAP and kill those fuckers! I know they have that in Africa. It's a very common pesticide, and comes under many brand names, the biggest being Bayer. I know you don't have resistant strains in Africa like we do here, so Imid will do the trick. You will have to do a soil drench. You will see the bastards running for their lives when it hits them. You will probably have to repeat the treatment several times. They are probably in the soil outside all around you. Damn! I am so off soil, and that is one of the reasons. If you can get some bagged coco, it's worth it's weight in gold. If you can't, you can use perlite, or diatomaceous earth as medium. Yup, diatomaceous earth can be used as medium. It's cheap, and bugs can't live in it, and I'm pretty sure you can find it in Africa. Use a breathing mask though when handling it, as the particles will lodge in your lungs. Of course, then you will not be using organic, home grown ferts. You will need salts. At some point, money comes into the equation, but think of it this way: an ounce of dank will pay for your ferts/supplies.
I also think, from the pictures, that you can lower your light. 400 watts don't put out that much heat. Keep light as close as you can. But, first things first. Kill those bastards, and then kill them again.
 

Rooibard

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Lol kill em and then kill em again.. On that shopping list bag of coco wont do much damage and I c u already getting Bio Bloom and Kelpak;) once ure there they stock also mycorhizal and trichoderma fungies which are fantastic add on in organics! Soil or soilless...

Peace
 

SmellyFlorist

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:bow:@Retrobro... Dont be sorry brah, last night I kinda had a epiphany... Im actually glad Iv got these things... learning about one brutal pest after the other, I feel is a good thing, yeah its does break the spirit at first, but then I realised I need to meet these pests head on... I cant run for these issues that are being thrown into my path... I cant move anywhere right now so I need to know how to beat things like this... I read the last 20pages of that 210 page thread last night... and I see that other guys are beating them... but with varied degrees of success, which could be like most issues and is relevant to the effort one puts into it... I see you yourself have them beat. More proof that it can be done... But in that thread, just from last night, I saw these two groups, the organic crew, and then the chem crew, the latter being in the opinion that the former cant really succeed... also maybe becoz the latter has never tackled the former's ipm to the t...?? maybe??

And thank you for the kinda words bout my photography... at least Im getting good at something... who knows maybe ill win p.o.m one far, far away day....

Iv got Imid... stored up last year when I was in a BM harem... in different strengths too... but I aint got the biowar yet.... from my understanding "kill with imid, keep away with biowar"...????

Okay okay okay, retro, wait up.... lets back it up... right as of now, I totally understand back in oct/nov how most of the guys where saying "throw all your shit away and start fresh..." I can now see where they where coming from... so that last round, besides the mite problem that I dealt with, unbeknown to me I had nemitodes, RA, and most likely FG too... going back in my mind, I often had to wipe tiny black bugs off the bulbs... most likely WRA coz I noticed them parking off in groups, often in the same places.... all the medium from that round got thrown outside... What Im getting at is: should I just trash all this shit and start afresh... they sell coco/peat 5kg bricks at the store that Im going to soon to get my fan... its not to pricey, 50kg is bout $60[R600]...just dont know htf to carry it... I had to place an order for the filter and fan, shes already asked for email and contact numbers[which I politely declined]... so I dont want her even seeing my car... I would just need to keep all that coco away from my flat[leave in car boot] coz like you say... these bugs[everything] are all over the show... and Iv become a miticide before... now I need to become a aphicide... lol.... So I could throw all this shit away, bleach, bug bomb, heat treat, bleach bug bomb and heat again... get the coco/peat... and try pop the SLH fems and I also got gdoggyp fems, last year mid winter my room hit 60 a few times during lights off, perhaps it would be best to pop them and try run them for some colour... coz I dont have them in the fridge, just warm room temps, power always trips here, didnt think it'd be good for the seeds...??? So if you were in my shoes, what would you do?? I really need a proper filter fan and ducting[thats a must] but I could probs afford the other sundries I mentioned... if a sacrifice must be made, so that I could have an actually dank harvest say two months later, maybe I should really be looking at it... OR kill the sweet fuck outa em with Imid... veg a bit longer, and just feed em the organic route Iv been doing so thus far this round... To me the plants yes look a lil yellow, but they've taken off since been put into my diy soil and growth has been what Id expect from a plant... I feel they look way healthier than the last mite round.... but they have to be dealt with..?? cant just ride the round out.....?? coz like even though the summer grow was a fuckup of note, I put my head down, tried not to get distracted, and Iv actually got something to show for it, not much, but its paying for this much needed equipment that I should get real soon.....

Like I mentioned earlier... biobizz bloom, kelpak, silicon, and bioneem I can get for bout $100... enough for a ten plant run, maybe some mom upkeep... Iv got a heap of seagrow which Iv been using for veg... and the blackstrap is available down here and like $2...

I hear you on my 400 being to high.... I defo need to sort that out...

But like you say... must kill RA's first... If I do use this Imid asap, is it gonna "kill" my soil...??

And could you walk me through this "dunking" process... big bucket of water, imid[correct ratio] and slowly lower pot into bucket..?? leave for 20min...?? repeat every 3 days?? each plant needs 3 dunk cycle...??
Need guidance on this brah, last time I didnt follow instructions to the T and I paid a price....

But I can beat this fucks...??

So how do I go about this...
 

SmellyFlorist

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Lol kill em and then kill em again.. On that shopping list bag of coco wont do much damage and I c u already getting Bio Bloom and Kelpak;) once ure there they stock also mycorhizal and trichoderma fungies which are fantastic add on in organics! Soil or soilless...

Peace

They sell what...??

Ps: how was that swell down your way, just arrived this am... 18sec... nice light offshore too.... almost getting to that time of year :woohoo:
 

Rooibard

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Fungies! To form symbiotic relation w/ ur plants, just like in the forest... Fungis take sugar from the host plant and in return ur plants gets improved nutrient/water uptake. But besides that they also work in decomposing process; i.e.help break down nutrients. Also ur plants get resistant for pathogens and suppousingly better draught and over watering resistance. Theres loads of info about fungies around here and they're major part of living soil... Trichoderma is lank cheap: R15 for enough for 100-150 plants...
Yeah man swells pumpin! Almost that time yaa, better for plants, better for swells! Once my harvey time is done gonna get me a new stick;)

Peace
 

SmellyFlorist

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@Red... shot, Ill look into em... you know if they sell any biowar there...?

Swell was nice this morning... looked again now... but 2mrw morning looks like the berries... just need a clear sky tonight, but WG says light offshore again... yeah new sticks....
 

Rooibard

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Pleasure:) they dont have Biowar there, only neem oil, mosquito dunks, pyrethrium based Ludwigs, copper soap and fungicides...
How many days ure in town? Got almost 50 posts up;)
 

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