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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Zeez

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No D, It's more like this.

One man out of the whole bunch had the guts, conviction and honor to take the oath seriously.

Mittens is covering his ass so that when his ties to Ukraine are uncovered he can claim he was targeted out of spite because of his impeachment vote.

His good buddy Cofer Black (Joseph Cofer Black) former CIA spook and Blackwater spook who sat on the board with Hunter Biden.... will be coming under some scrutiny.

Lik Pelosi and Kerry's kids.

And there is this:

Former Romney campaign spokesman says conviction decision is 'motivated by bitterness and jealousy'

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...says-impeachment-decision-is-motivated-by?amp

Either way Mittens is not the hero you think he is.
 

Microbeman

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:laughing: like you gotta choice...wake up...you just got fucked in Iowa....

:tiphat:

I agree that the selection system for democrats is stupid but the republicans had a similar problem in Iowa but even worse. Check your history.
 

Microbeman

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Really doesn't matter since there is no compelling DNC sponsored candidate in the race.

All they have is an anyone but Trump platform to run on. It will thrill the moronic anti Trumpers. The same morons driving independent voters to the GOP with poorly executed attempts to remove Trump. In the process they will totally disenfranchise Bernie's base which they badly need.

It's like watching the keystone cops in a brave new world. That has them spinning tales of "great Americans" like the Bain of bain capital Mittens and John I'll bomb the fuck out of your country Bolton.

Watching them fawn over a neocon front man for the military industrial complex and a job destroying venture capitalist is just to god damn funny.

I'm really surprised that you are agreeing by omission with Hempy's ridiculous assertion.
 

bigtacofarmer

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I still believe Bernie can win. With or without the support of the Democratic party. I am beginning to believe that if the media was not so against him that he could win as an independent.
 

Microbeman

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For what its worth I voted for Perot. I still have a campaign button I bought knowing full well it was a futile gesture. Still dont like your views but there is some minor common ground. Its what sensible people try to find instead of ripping up a stack of paper in some childish display.

I doubt very much that you comprehend what my views are.
 

Zeez

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I still believe Bernie can win. With or without the support of the Democratic party. I am beginning to believe that if the media was not so against him that he could win as an independent.

It won't come to that. Bernie is the new face of the democratic party and will move fast to take back much of the ground lost.
 

TychoMonolyth

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Progressives own what, 35% of the D house now? Expect big changes in the years to come because young progressive voters actually vote.
 

h.h.

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It won't come to that. Bernie is the new face of the democratic party and will move fast to take back much of the ground lost.

Unfortunately, Buttigieg is the new face.
Bernie is stuck in the past. While he gets the younger idealists, boomers have left him behind. He’s maxed out.
 

h.h.

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No D, It's more like this.

One man out of the whole bunch had the guts, conviction and honor to take the oath seriously.

It’s always “bitterness and jealousy” backing up far flung conspiracies. They don’t have any better excuse.
 

Zeez

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Unfortunately, Buttigieg is the new face.
Bernie is stuck in the past. While he gets the younger idealists, boomers have left him behind. He’s maxed out.

Could be. They are tied in Iowa.

I like Pete's platform except that he is not for free college or medicare for all. Pete is also for expanding the military budget where I think we have more than enough and it takes away from other things badly needed. Brenie's experience is a big plus.
 

Cannavore

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Unfortunately, Buttigieg is the new face.
Bernie is stuck in the past. While he gets the younger idealists, boomers have left him behind. He’s maxed out.

The new face that cant win a black vote if his life depended on it.

This is dogshit level analysis. Stick to your one word posts, at least they give the facade as if you know what you're talking about.

LOL dude just said CIA Pete is the new face LOL
 

med4u

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h.h.

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Could be. They are tied in Iowa.

I like Pete's platform except that he is not for free college or medicare for all. Pete is also for expanding the military budget where I think we have more than enough and it takes away from other things badly needed. Brenie's experience is a big plus.

We’re not going to be able to tax and spend our way into quality education and healthcare until we get new and outside the box thinking.

Buttigieg doesn’t have the experience and Bernie has too much experience of not getting anywhere.

Of the top 5 in Iowa, two are progressive, three are conservative. Add up the percentages in both groups, the progressives only have about 45% of the support, with little chance of crossover support from republicans. The movement has a lot of energy, but it still isn’t strong. Not strong enough anyway.

In the next few years, as trumps pony show starts to fail, whoever is in office will take the hit. If it’s a progressive, the movement will fail. They’ll be a one term president followed by 8 years of republican rule. If it wasn’t for judicial appointments, it would be as well to leave trump to face his own failures, but it’s just not worth the damage he would do.
I believe it will take a conservative Democrat to not only beat trump, but to hold the office successfully for 2 terms. Progression needs to work it’s way up through Congress.

It’s too many battles all at once.

I believe that in spite of low percentages, the one with the experience, and the best chance to beat trump while lasting 2 terms, is Klobuchar.
 
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