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Seriously SILY - A Branch Blooming Diary
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Shoot, missed the bit about the mites... but it's awesome if they're still only on the veg plant.
Alcohol and water, at a minimum 1oz alcohol /gallon of water with a neutral surfactant, you want this stuff to spread very easily so it slides down into the cracks and crevices of new growth.
Waterproof the soil area, because alcohol is muy bad for roots.
Spray the plant down COMPLETELY, as in every square centimeter is wet. Take a sponge wet with the same solution and squeeze any drippable excess out of it. Use it to wipe any dry bits of stem down below your waterproofing.
Do this every 3 days for the next 15 days.
I truly hope you get rid of them, this has been a very inspirational thread. Many thanks.
Alcohol and water, at a minimum 1oz alcohol /gallon of water with a neutral surfactant, you want this stuff to spread very easily so it slides down into the cracks and crevices of new growth.
Waterproof the soil area, because alcohol is muy bad for roots.
Spray the plant down COMPLETELY, as in every square centimeter is wet. Take a sponge wet with the same solution and squeeze any drippable excess out of it. Use it to wipe any dry bits of stem down below your waterproofing.
Do this every 3 days for the next 15 days.
I truly hope you get rid of them, this has been a very inspirational thread. Many thanks.
Mattbho
Active member
Interesting I wanted to say the bloom/veg/bloom looked a lil hungry but I wasnt sure if it was the sil lighting .
I dont use sil, or cabinets, medically legal so this is way out of my element . But I'm not sure if you thought out the nutritional demand.
I dont want to troll or come off like I dont appreciate the time you took to bring this to us all at icmag.
But... your reusing that tub that you did 1 flowering plant under 1 of those sil rigs correct?
You cant expect the same tub/nuitrients media to support 2 of those rigs plus the middle veg.
Just want to put my 2 cents in as I believe that plant is going to need something other than tap water for nuitrients before long. I may have missed a top dressing or foliar spray tho.
I honestly thought the middle would have started showing pistols by now so what do I know .
Awesome experiment and read!!! Looking forward to results.
I dont use sil, or cabinets, medically legal so this is way out of my element . But I'm not sure if you thought out the nutritional demand.
I dont want to troll or come off like I dont appreciate the time you took to bring this to us all at icmag.
But... your reusing that tub that you did 1 flowering plant under 1 of those sil rigs correct?
You cant expect the same tub/nuitrients media to support 2 of those rigs plus the middle veg.
Just want to put my 2 cents in as I believe that plant is going to need something other than tap water for nuitrients before long. I may have missed a top dressing or foliar spray tho.
I honestly thought the middle would have started showing pistols by now so what do I know .
Awesome experiment and read!!! Looking forward to results.
Shoot, missed the bit about the mites... but it's awesome if they're still only on the veg plant.
Alcohol and water, at a minimum 1oz alcohol /gallon of water with a neutral surfactant, you want this stuff to spread very easily so it slides down into the cracks and crevices of new growth.
Waterproof the soil area, because alcohol is muy bad for roots.
Spray the plant down COMPLETELY, as in every square centimeter is wet. Take a sponge wet with the same solution and squeeze any drippable excess out of it. Use it to wipe any dry bits of stem down below your waterproofing.
Do this every 3 days for the next 15 days.
I truly hope you get rid of them, this has been a very inspirational thread. Many thanks.
If they were spider mites I’d use 50/50 iso/water with a dollop of dish soap. I’ve got rid of spider mites many times that way, spraying every two days for like 4-5 times just to be safe.
It’s never really worked for me with Russet Mites though. What I do find does work for me with Russet Mites is LCPT (Loast Coast Plant Therapy) for any one not familiar it’s just a mix of Soy Bean Oil, Citric Acid, Peppermint Oil and sodium citrate, purified water and alcohol. Sprayed every two days for an infestation and weekly as a preventative against mites and mold. It’s totally safe to spray on flowers and I have many times with no ill effects or residues or anything.
Right you are friend. At about week 3, I topped off the soil with 4-5 tbs of dry nutrient mix. I haven’t given it more food since then. I mixed a good bit in the soil in the initial transplant. It’s not enough though and the plant is definitely hungry and it’s showing all over. I’ve been busy and lazy but bunch of excuses. I’m watching Thor with my family right now instead of getting up and taking five minutes to water it with some GO Bloom. I will soon though okay I’ll feed her today. After Thor at least. I’m going to maybe transplant after I harvest the outside and add more nutrients and give a week or two to get bigger and healthier before I flower the inside. I also want to graft most the branches with all the strains I have so I get a nice variety out of the next harvest.
No I haven’t flowered this plant out before this cycle. When I flower the middle that will be the second and final cycle for it. My plans changed from constantly vegging and flowering and root pruning the same plants to vegging an air layering of my MOMF for a month or two while still attached then on its own for 1 month before flowering in one of my two tents between 612w of vertical SILS, grafting branches of a few or all of my strains before I flower them.
It’s nice to know that a plant can flower and veg at the same time though.
It’s really easy to see the Peyote Cookies Scion on the Sugar Black Rose now.
What’s super wonderful and magnificently fascinating is to see how different the Scion branch is on SBR rootstock vs on it’s own apparently inferior root system. It only looks different in one way. It’s buds, even the smallest bud on the Scion is fatter/bigger and even each individual calyx appears more swollen then even the biggest lollipoped branch of the Peyote Cookies plant down below from which it came.
PC Scion Bud with multiple lower buds and side branch below it. -Edit: correction- this is actually the top of the side branch of the PC Scion.
One of the biggest PC bud tops on an even bigger branch completely lollipoped on the plant below.
What’s super wonderful and magnificently fascinating is to see how different the Scion branch is on SBR rootstock vs on it’s own apparently inferior root system. It only looks different in one way. It’s buds, even the smallest bud on the Scion is fatter/bigger and even each individual calyx appears more swollen then even the biggest lollipoped branch of the Peyote Cookies plant down below from which it came.
PC Scion Bud with multiple lower buds and side branch below it. -Edit: correction- this is actually the top of the side branch of the PC Scion.
One of the biggest PC bud tops on an even bigger branch completely lollipoped on the plant below.
brickweeder
Well-known member
Very Nice!
SuperBadGrower
Active member
That flowering/vegging thing is one of the coolest things I have ever seen
SuperBadGrower
Active member
This is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry to double post. What you have shown here is incredible!! I hope more people see it and maybe apply it in other ways?
I don't know how it would be useful to me, but it is just amazing to see this plant flowering and not flowering at the same time in such a controlled space. Many congratulations Scrogmonster
I don't know how it would be useful to me, but it is just amazing to see this plant flowering and not flowering at the same time in such a controlled space. Many congratulations Scrogmonster
El Tigre
Active member
This is interesting and should be investigated further. In fruit growing where the varieties are generally "clones", it is common practice to use specific rootstock varieties (i hope this is the correct term, english is not my native language) for the root system.
Maybe cannabis strains with little vigor but other excellent qualities could benefit from this practice.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Russets? Exact same schedule, only use micronized sulfur and enough surfactant to slide into the crevices of new growth. Russets are an arachnid and it's very vulnerable to sulfur. The difficulty is getting a complete coating of sulfur, every application till finished.
Sprayed your plants in the last 30 days with any kind of oil? You'll want to wait on sulfur, whether vapor or micronized spray. There's a significant burn risk, so it's best to wait.
Sprayed your plants in the last 30 days with any kind of oil? You'll want to wait on sulfur, whether vapor or micronized spray. There's a significant burn risk, so it's best to wait.
For sure El Tigre, when I was looking at icmag grafting threads for methods i saw this discussed many times. It’s with a doubt a very viable practice as I’m seeing right now with these two plants. Had I grafted the Peyote Cookies onto a SBR root system before growing them out to be flowered there is no doubt in my mind that every bud on the plant would be much fatter.
In my next cycles I’ll be flowering out one big plant in each tent and grafting at least one scion of each strain I have onto them before hand. I might try each combination of rootstocks but since I’m currently seeing that the SBR rootstock seems much stronger then the PC Root stock I’ll probably leave that out or leave it for last. The first rootstock I’ll be testing is Tangelo. That’s my 5gallon air layering that is waiting for a free tent before it’s severed from MOMF.
Brickweeder, Superbad Grower, Diver Dave...
Thanks for the kind words and support fellas
Will be posting more updates soon.
Thanks for the kind words and support fellas
Will be posting more updates soon.
mucho pictures coming right now.
first some more of the SBR
SBR
first some more of the SBR
SBR
More Peyote Cookies
Here's some more pics of the PC scion on the SBR
Now the VegNBloomer - Lemon Meringue
Left side
Right side
Middle - It's recovering from mites and whole plant is hungry. I also am working on replacing the three bulbs in the middle with 6 - 8w SIL's broken down and made into three 16w light bars so I can stick em to the top and have even light coverage in there. I plant to graft at least 5 of those branches with the different strains I have too.
Middle not flowering at all still, here's a close up.
Top of the left side
Left side
Right side
Middle - It's recovering from mites and whole plant is hungry. I also am working on replacing the three bulbs in the middle with 6 - 8w SIL's broken down and made into three 16w light bars so I can stick em to the top and have even light coverage in there. I plant to graft at least 5 of those branches with the different strains I have too.
Middle not flowering at all still, here's a close up.
Top of the left side
more of the left side
More of the right side
More of the right side
