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Seeds of Africa seedbank???
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Jay sus, I noticed your previous pics showing that she wasnt as healthy as she could be (tips turned down, small bite marks, etc)
Perhaps run her again and see if she's nanner-free.
Perhaps run her again and see if she's nanner-free.
it's very difficult to get a hermi free zamal seed line. the collective bourbon breeders in la reunion has worked for almost 15 years to bring French touch seeds their nearly ( according to fts and collective bourbon breeders) hermi free zamal lines.
fritzman at now defunct bsc did a recent zamal reproduction of the Christophe/gypsy zamal line that has been remarkedly hermi free so far.
I did not run into too many hermies when I ran soa zamal; pretty stable and mostly the fermented fruit phenos.
fritzman at now defunct bsc did a recent zamal reproduction of the Christophe/gypsy zamal line that has been remarkedly hermi free so far.
I did not run into too many hermies when I ran soa zamal; pretty stable and mostly the fermented fruit phenos.
jay sus
Well-known member
hermie thing came most likely from interrupted light cycle, (overridden timer), aroma is aniseed, not mango/carrot as mostly zamal being described, but zamal being generic name for cannabis in la Reunion it means a lot of things. what i want to know is that what group of people brought ganja to the ile? migrating workers or hippie cast aways? any input
^^ zamal like Hawaii strains were imported as you know. the French canna*eed site has tons of zamal posts. iirc Madagascar, india, asia, africa. the posts at the French site are most often in French and a bitch for me to go back thru and translate.
according to the zamal guys at the French site there are over 10 recognized zamal strains; pepper, carrot, mango, purple wire, autoflower, and more. there are mostly zamal hybrids ( not pure zamal ) seeds available due to adam genetic pollution. the mafate Christophe aka gypsy zamal stock was sourced in a very dangerous ( headhunters) and almost inaccessible interior area of zamal called mafate region.
the guys at the bourbon breeders collective recognize the purple wire and carrot zamal as being very good. they don't understand how gypsy got such good zamal seed stock as it is so hard to source even for la reunion growers.
I have one pheno from the Christophe stock that reminds me of the soa zamal sativas I grew. I call it the fermented fruit pheno. I used it in a hybrid with soa Malawi gold mandingo cut and called it superfly. I was smoking this zamal/mandingo cut bud and watching American gangster and the superfly theme music came on. the name was instantly a no brainer and everyone loved it. there were two phenos; one fluffy and one pretty frosty and dense nugs ( soa mg dom). the mg dom was the superfly. this came in middle nov. under a very hot sun two years ago. the big patch was so huge ( individual plants) I attracted severe leo attention in my od guerilla metro grow. these cops were not local cops. they were very good and almost got me. their methods were far superior to local leo that had busted many of my patches in the past. I've been at this in my present area for 25+ years. state or dea; yes, I've spotted dea jackets in my grows before. these are very small grows plant wise. nothing over 15 plants interspersed with tall weeds in an area has ever made it to harvest here for me. hot.
these huge plants ( zamal and Malawi hybrids, especially re soa the zamal) need to be grown horizontally.
the branches on these superfly trees were the size of meristems, especially at the meristem /branch junctions. they were built to carry lots of bud weight; incredibly strong and muscular big like weightlifters biceps. no shit.
the mandingo cut soa mg does not have the hybrid vigor that some other Malawi's have but their zamal was great for me in the hybrid vigor department.
horizontal technique post:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=175243&page=55#post7282335
hate, hate, hate losing that spot. there was a fire there years ago and it was a natural tera preta grow area. I spotted it during one of my winter patch seeking endeavors and the weeds in that area were huge.
i'm going horizontal this year. it's been very difficult and very dangerous doing the vertical guerilla grows. losing prime grow areas really sucks. they are very rare in my area and it does hurt losing them.
according to the zamal guys at the French site there are over 10 recognized zamal strains; pepper, carrot, mango, purple wire, autoflower, and more. there are mostly zamal hybrids ( not pure zamal ) seeds available due to adam genetic pollution. the mafate Christophe aka gypsy zamal stock was sourced in a very dangerous ( headhunters) and almost inaccessible interior area of zamal called mafate region.
the guys at the bourbon breeders collective recognize the purple wire and carrot zamal as being very good. they don't understand how gypsy got such good zamal seed stock as it is so hard to source even for la reunion growers.
I have one pheno from the Christophe stock that reminds me of the soa zamal sativas I grew. I call it the fermented fruit pheno. I used it in a hybrid with soa Malawi gold mandingo cut and called it superfly. I was smoking this zamal/mandingo cut bud and watching American gangster and the superfly theme music came on. the name was instantly a no brainer and everyone loved it. there were two phenos; one fluffy and one pretty frosty and dense nugs ( soa mg dom). the mg dom was the superfly. this came in middle nov. under a very hot sun two years ago. the big patch was so huge ( individual plants) I attracted severe leo attention in my od guerilla metro grow. these cops were not local cops. they were very good and almost got me. their methods were far superior to local leo that had busted many of my patches in the past. I've been at this in my present area for 25+ years. state or dea; yes, I've spotted dea jackets in my grows before. these are very small grows plant wise. nothing over 15 plants interspersed with tall weeds in an area has ever made it to harvest here for me. hot.
these huge plants ( zamal and Malawi hybrids, especially re soa the zamal) need to be grown horizontally.
the branches on these superfly trees were the size of meristems, especially at the meristem /branch junctions. they were built to carry lots of bud weight; incredibly strong and muscular big like weightlifters biceps. no shit.
the mandingo cut soa mg does not have the hybrid vigor that some other Malawi's have but their zamal was great for me in the hybrid vigor department.
horizontal technique post:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=175243&page=55#post7282335
hate, hate, hate losing that spot. there was a fire there years ago and it was a natural tera preta grow area. I spotted it during one of my winter patch seeking endeavors and the weeds in that area were huge.
i'm going horizontal this year. it's been very difficult and very dangerous doing the vertical guerilla grows. losing prime grow areas really sucks. they are very rare in my area and it does hurt losing them.
CimeTempestose
Member
well.. taken me a bit to read once again the whole 21 pages of the 3d .. but much more i read much more I think this is one of the most "full of infos" 3d on african strains in ICmag..
for sure I think that I have to say special thanks to idiit for all the details in the first pages.. for sure I will look for Malawi Gold
at the moment I can only give a very litte contribute sayng that in last week I finally was able to contact members of SOA.. now I want bother U all with the whole email conversation..so I just post an extract of their last email to me :
I will share the Link as I will recive it
green vibes
for sure I think that I have to say special thanks to idiit for all the details in the first pages.. for sure I will look for Malawi Gold
at the moment I can only give a very litte contribute sayng that in last week I finally was able to contact members of SOA.. now I want bother U all with the whole email conversation..so I just post an extract of their last email to me :
I will share the Link as I will recive it
green vibes
CimeTempestose
Member
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^ thanks, cimetempestose.
it's a forum. we need other growers to add to the personal experience knowledge base. very few have grown out the soa mg. vermontman did and did not have good success. he either grew under led or outdoors in a northern location and finished under leds. from my experience the hps indoor run of my keeper cut was excellent. outdoors under a good fall sky she performed well but the season was cut short by a very unusual early hard freeze. this last fall did not have any sun; all dreary, rainy days. only the malawis and Nepalese hybrids made it; the rest of the strains were crop failures.
I still smoke some soa Malawi that died dec. 1 without finishing to maturity almost every night and I love this stuff.
it's a forum. we need other growers to add to the personal experience knowledge base. very few have grown out the soa mg. vermontman did and did not have good success. he either grew under led or outdoors in a northern location and finished under leds. from my experience the hps indoor run of my keeper cut was excellent. outdoors under a good fall sky she performed well but the season was cut short by a very unusual early hard freeze. this last fall did not have any sun; all dreary, rainy days. only the malawis and Nepalese hybrids made it; the rest of the strains were crop failures.
I still smoke some soa Malawi that died dec. 1 without finishing to maturity almost every night and I love this stuff.
from the looks of this soa plants...they're clearly hybrids, i'm growing some malawi goldxthe white from bodhi right now and looks much more like the pure african sativas that i've grown in the past than all this Soa plants, only the mozambique left me a little disappointed and may be an african sativa....but the others doesnt even resemble to one of them by the looks and the flowering times....
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egodeath
whatever
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I am growing Mozambica, Coffee Gold and Mystic Pondo and I can assure you that they are not hybrids.
Every plant of each strain has the same smell and look the same.
there are definitely no dutch genes in these strains and they are quite unique and nice. i can recommend
whatever
I am growing Mozambica, Coffee Gold and Mystic Pondo and I can assure you that they are not hybrids.
Every plant of each strain has the same smell and look the same.
there are definitely no dutch genes in these strains and they are quite unique and nice. i can recommend
i was speaking from the looks of the plants they have on their website, as haven't bought ant pack...but i've been in africa more than once and have grown some seedstrains from there and from african seeds...and never seen buds as tight and fast as this, this is what makes me believe they're not the traditional heirloom sativa strains in my humble opinion...just look at this indoor zamal pictures posted in this thread and any zamal picture on the net....this is clearly a zamal hybrid to me...
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then that's more than likely they are not sourced directly from the growing region and have been selected, landraces have tremendous variation from plant to plant.
C
Cannabisso
Yo jay sus. Does this Zamal Reunion look anything like your Zamal Reunion?
When it started out the leaves were quite wide for a supposedly pure sativa but as time progressed the leaves became more narrow.
The growth structure does indeed have something African as well as Asian to it.
While it doesn't look as pure as the GN version it could be about 90 - 95% pure though.
When it started out the leaves were quite wide for a supposedly pure sativa but as time progressed the leaves became more narrow.
The growth structure does indeed have something African as well as Asian to it.
While it doesn't look as pure as the GN version it could be about 90 - 95% pure though.
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^ from my experience and seeing the different zamal pics that's very true. zamal is a branchy gal. think monster bushes.
check out the roots. zamal's autoflower, carrot, pepper, mango, purple have vigorous gorgeous bright white prolific root systems. me thinks the reason zamal can get so big is 'cause the root systems are so vigorous/prolific/healthy in comparison to other strains at the same age. happens in seedling going into veg stage. the best zamal indicator I've noticed is this tremendous root vigor. not all zamal's are xnld (extreme narrow leaf drug) phenos. I see on many of the sativa posts ppl expecting xnld leaf appearance in early veg on many authentic sativa strains from around the globe. not true.
bigmotaman48
Member
Grew seeds of Africa Durban bought as clones . It was ready Decemver 2 nd and survived 28 degree temperatures . It was massive and had to be bent and trellised and produced light and fluffy buds , maybe 10 to 12 percent thc ,got to learn to post pictures
I find it funny how seeds-ofafrica.com is now one of the cookies tracking my web location after clicking on this thread. Can you say... SKETCHY???????
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