So now were going further from my objective of the thread. H3ad in the time you took to read and reply to this thread you could have added a image to the listing I saw of yours that had no image. Let me ask you H3ad...why do you not add an image to a listing? The hamburger thing...at least they show you something. It was not my intent for the seed sellers to reply and defend the way they do things now. It was an oppertunity for them to listen to the buyers and meet thier needs. Again I agree that the best source for buying seeds is right here at Cannagraphic with smoke and grow reports. But again, for 5 years I was a buyer not knowing Cannagraphic existed. I passed up 100s of sales as they had no image or information. So how much effort will it take to add an image and another sentence to a listing? Great to hear from all of you and I hope we hear from more buyers. Dr. Duck.