I guess so! I did misunderstand! Terribly...Nice visit this morning though...I hope my posts didn't get Mr. H3ads blood pressure up? HA! See I'm using that Ha word a lot more nowadays...Dr. Duck.
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This still takes me back to word of mouth. I see members that have been here a long time. With some great grows under their belts. If they say they like something you will see a rush of people go after it. I absolutely love the caseyjones and have been verbal about it so that maybe people would try it. Its a great great cross and really has some awesome taste. Not sure a picture is always worth the thousand words. If its a grower ppl know and respect a few words can go a long way. Now I hope more people will try the caseyjones because if you dont ... your missing out!!
much love to you all
much love to you all
But Babbabud.....oh no not another but Babbabud.....I think there are thousands of buyers that aren't aware of Cannagraphic and the grow reports? I was for 5 years and did a lot of buys. So should we say "they'll buy anyway?" Why not give um a little more incentive to buy? Dr. Duck.
I can assure you nothing on this website get's H3ad blood pressure up, lmao... he is the most calm'est dude you'd ever meet.....doobieduck said:
now, me?...hahhaha.... there's a different animal, entirely...
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Nothing is stronger than the voice of the buyers, who are growing their beans and sharing the results! It is absolutely the most honest way of doing business, and a great thing that the breeder wants ppl to show their results of the beans. Damn straight im gonna do hella research before i buy them. I would not just rely on a short decription- that would be assanign on my part. It is the grow reports that sell the beans and i wouldn't want it anyother way. That way You can use your own brain and come to a conclusion whether to purchase them. I would hate to only be able to get a decription from the breeder and NOT be able to see others experience with the strain.
But thats why ICMAG is here! An honest and reliable forum which solely relies eachother for the outcome of their beans- opinions directly from the grower.... IMO~ this is not a capitalistic community where it is the sellers responsiblity to write a 2 page description. I would not want that..I personally like the freedom of speech. And I thank Gypsy for giving us the opportunity to share our experience together here on IC.
I am sorry it took you 5 yrs before finding the voice of the people(buyers) and not just breeders(descriptions). It is not the breeders who are lazy..I can assure you that! otherwise you would have no beans if that were the case.That little search bar can do wonderful things- and so can google. It seems you put a tremendous amount of effort into proving your point "doobie".Maybe you can contribute something useful next time with all that dedication and time you put into this thread. But thats just my perspective on your survey.
But thats why ICMAG is here! An honest and reliable forum which solely relies eachother for the outcome of their beans- opinions directly from the grower.... IMO~ this is not a capitalistic community where it is the sellers responsiblity to write a 2 page description. I would not want that..I personally like the freedom of speech. And I thank Gypsy for giving us the opportunity to share our experience together here on IC.
I am sorry it took you 5 yrs before finding the voice of the people(buyers) and not just breeders(descriptions). It is not the breeders who are lazy..I can assure you that! otherwise you would have no beans if that were the case.That little search bar can do wonderful things- and so can google. It seems you put a tremendous amount of effort into proving your point "doobie".Maybe you can contribute something useful next time with all that dedication and time you put into this thread. But thats just my perspective on your survey.
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doobie duck I'm on your side man. I simply wanted to show what can be done with a little effort. You have a VERY VERY valid point here doobie.
I to am a power seller on the Bay and know first hand the effect of some good pics and descriptions. If you took my post as a slam towards you I'm sorry but Mr.Wags don't roll that way. I have no desire to shame anyone especially when their points are valid and deserve attention. I simply wanted you to see what it looks like when it's done right to share ideas like we do here at IC all the time. Sorry for the mix-up
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For me, the descriptions on seedbay/boutique have little influence on which strains I will buy. Finishing time, lineage, and whatever info from the breeder is great, but what influences what strains I look at most is the testimony from this site and others like it.
If i come across an interesting/promising sounding strain, I'll do some more searching on this site or other cannabis forums. The breeder description is something i look at, but i take it with a grain of salt because the proof is in the pudding, the grow reports.
Chimera--Renae giving birth:
If i come across an interesting/promising sounding strain, I'll do some more searching on this site or other cannabis forums. The breeder description is something i look at, but i take it with a grain of salt because the proof is in the pudding, the grow reports.
Chimera--Renae giving birth:
Thanks Mr. Wags
Thanks Mr. Wags
Thanks Mr. Wags I was hoping that wasn't the case. Oh well I am wearing down so I posted some real pics from a Mandala Sadhu grow to ease my mine, thread in his forum. Mandala Mike uses my images in his gallery as well as his listings...simple process....how could you pass this up? Only guessing...but I bet his Sadhu seeds get some new attention? It's images like these that will sell a product! Dr. Duck
Thanks Mr. Wags
Thanks Mr. Wags I was hoping that wasn't the case. Oh well I am wearing down so I posted some real pics from a Mandala Sadhu grow to ease my mine, thread in his forum. Mandala Mike uses my images in his gallery as well as his listings...simple process....how could you pass this up? Only guessing...but I bet his Sadhu seeds get some new attention? It's images like these that will sell a product! Dr. Duck
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Hey pipeline thanks for taking the time to comment. Just what I was hoping to hear from buyers, what influences them when making a purchase. I wish I'd hear more from buyers...that is why I started this thread, oh Babba...I'd have to think about that...kinda like it like it is...now that I found it, HA!....Dr. Duck.
I guess copyright is also an issue if users supply seed companies with photos, especially after that recent HT debacle. But if a seed company contacted me, say, and said "Hey, we love your pics of Strain X on the ICMag site - can we use them on our promo material?", then obviously I would say yes. But in practice, it could be tricky.
I don't mind a credit of 'Elevator Man' on a public photo, but I know all about copyright law too, and it could be interesting resolving rights, etc. especially when folks don't want to use their real names! I've already seen one example of someone using a copyrighted image of mine that I created years ago, in another sphere entirely, as an avatar on a dope forum website! (not this one).What do I do there...sue them?
Maybe we should come up with a 'model release' template form specifically for weed pics? Simply a statement that a user gives their permission for images to be used for another's commercial gain, but in this case pretty much unenforceable anyway. But at least someone could 'donate' their photos to said seed company for a free pack of seeds in return or something - that could work?
Given the volume of top-quality photography, writing, and anecdotal material produced, both here and previously on OG, and all the others, I'm sure all this data could be pooled for 'consenting public use' somehow?
I don't mind a credit of 'Elevator Man' on a public photo, but I know all about copyright law too, and it could be interesting resolving rights, etc. especially when folks don't want to use their real names! I've already seen one example of someone using a copyrighted image of mine that I created years ago, in another sphere entirely, as an avatar on a dope forum website! (not this one).What do I do there...sue them?
Maybe we should come up with a 'model release' template form specifically for weed pics? Simply a statement that a user gives their permission for images to be used for another's commercial gain, but in this case pretty much unenforceable anyway. But at least someone could 'donate' their photos to said seed company for a free pack of seeds in return or something - that could work?
Given the volume of top-quality photography, writing, and anecdotal material produced, both here and previously on OG, and all the others, I'm sure all this data could be pooled for 'consenting public use' somehow?
Hang on - this thread exists twice! I knew I wasn't as wasted as I thought I was! OK, which one? This one or that other one in the breeder's forum?
Heh - been posting in the 'other' version of this thread in the 'Submissions forum - I didn't see this one! Two threads are not better than one...
Although I may as well stay, now I'm here...
Although I may as well stay, now I'm here...
Ya know elevator man I agree...two is no good at all....but I have been trying to keep up...thanks for the posts, Dr. Duck.Elevator Man said:Heh - been posting in the 'other' version of this thread in the 'Submissions forum - I didn't see this one! Two threads are not better than one...
Although I may as well stay, now I'm here...
Elevator Man I'll never post in two places ever again, learned my lesson, OK? I have emailed a copyright to seed vendors. When they have an email in hand from you they basically have permission. Dr. Duck.
Perhaps We should start a poll:doobieduck said:
What influences your seed purchase the most?
Picture
Breeder's Description
Pedigree
Word of mouth
Who's the Breeder
Grow/Smoke reports
Name recognition
I'd be interested to see what the Fine growers of ICmag have to say...
that is an excellent idea gratefulhead:
i've been following this thread long enough now to comment....
the most influential marketing tool to me is the description of the product! Is it what I'm looking for to grow?
Now the 'description' comes from many sources; breeder's description, buyer's description, picture description.
It is a combination of everyone's and everything's opinion that helps me to decide on what seed product I will consider purcharsing for the next grow. Even the attitude of breeders. "love is contagious"
However, IMO the more descriptive the better. If I am indifferent about a product that extra effort and marketing to put their product in my face will often lean my decision towards that product.
To be lovingly honest, Mr.Gratefulhead I have been indecisive about your products for a long time. My conclusion is that their was not enough clear information to overcome my hesitation; i.e. pictures of your seed offerings. I am not attacking you or your efforts in any such way one can think of. I am grateful that there are people, like yourself, that are willing to lend a hand to the growing community of medicinal cannabis. (More than what I've been doing lately) Your products have always interested me. But what is more is the kindest vibe I interpret in your words that intrigue me about your seed offerings. The emotion that Ms.gratefulhead describes that the two of you indulge into your work is respected by me and my commrades.
And at the MOST this is all we can ask of.
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i've been following this thread long enough now to comment....
the most influential marketing tool to me is the description of the product! Is it what I'm looking for to grow?
Now the 'description' comes from many sources; breeder's description, buyer's description, picture description.
It is a combination of everyone's and everything's opinion that helps me to decide on what seed product I will consider purcharsing for the next grow. Even the attitude of breeders. "love is contagious"
However, IMO the more descriptive the better. If I am indifferent about a product that extra effort and marketing to put their product in my face will often lean my decision towards that product.
To be lovingly honest, Mr.Gratefulhead I have been indecisive about your products for a long time. My conclusion is that their was not enough clear information to overcome my hesitation; i.e. pictures of your seed offerings. I am not attacking you or your efforts in any such way one can think of. I am grateful that there are people, like yourself, that are willing to lend a hand to the growing community of medicinal cannabis. (More than what I've been doing lately) Your products have always interested me. But what is more is the kindest vibe I interpret in your words that intrigue me about your seed offerings. The emotion that Ms.gratefulhead describes that the two of you indulge into your work is respected by me and my commrades.
And at the MOST this is all we can ask of.
ONE.
H3ad that was my original intention. I thought I could do it, but when I went to the "ad a poll" to this thread it was completely different format. Great idea, it would be very interesting. I have almost the very same categories as you posted here writen down on a sticky note as they were going to be for the poll. We are thinking in the same direction....at least this afternoon we are...HA! Dr. Duck.
Brastaman thanks for the input, Dr. duck.
No worries and no offense... Before OG went down, and a Situation required deletion of my original account here... There was compete documentation of every seed project I've ever done, Pics and more pics... Sadly those are gone...Brastaman said:
No offense meant from me, either, But I have no need to entice anyone to choose my seeds over someone else's... People who are looking for my seeds know where they are, and I already don't make enough to meet demand...
This is an interesting discussion from a marketing standpoint... I guess the distinction is that I am providing seeds, not marketing them... I've never seen any need to promote or hype them...
Also there would be plenty of pics and info, BTW, if only 20% of the people I have sent free packs to would bother to document their grow...
But again, No worries, I don't send them with conditions or expectations, other than that they get grown out and enjoyed...
BTW anyone with any questions of me or my stock need but to ask, and I'll always do my best to answer..
