question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[Guest]

So do you guys think that mine will keep on flowering after winter solstice or not?
I'm @37 N

 

[Koondense]

She looks to be a 2021 finisher, late january.
I would cut the N or reduce it to a minimum at this point.

Looking sexy



Cheers

 

[Donald Mallard]

So do you guys think that mine will keep on flowering after winter solstice or not?
I'm @37 N

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maybe for a while ,
but they dont like increasing day lengths as far as continuing to flower goes ...

 

[GMT]

I always got more like 70% females.

-SamS

What do you feel is the cause of that observation?

 

[funkyhorse]

Hi there
A couple of experiences here about sex outcome
Dubi says here his experience. He comments firm colombian males are hard to find while Sam and Tom comment haze which is colombian doesnt hermie

Hi,

Yes, i think i commented previously the growing variables that affect female/male ratios in regular seeds. When the regular seeds are reaching their sexual maturity:

- Excessive nitrogen produces more males
- High temps produce more males, cooler temps more females
- Plants get rootbound more males, plants have enough root space more females.
- Crowded gardens produce more males, seedlings grown with enough space between them produce more females
- Outdoor seeds planted late in summer produce more males, earlier in spring more females
- Long photoperiods produce more males, shorter photoperiods more females
- Lack of water or nutrients during sexing produce more males, the right amounts of water and nutrients more females
- Plants abused during seedlings stage with stress (excessive pruning and other stress) tend to become male more frequently, properly attended seedlings produce a higher female ratio.
- Lack of proper ventilation in indoor rooms produce a higher male ratio, well ventilated indoor rooms produce more females.
- Yellowish HPS light spectrum produces more males, whiter-bluish light spectrum more females.

Usually tropical pure sativa landraces like Thais, Soth Indians, Colombians, etc ... produce a very high female ratio, although sexually firm males can be harder to find.

Most of our sativa strains (standard/regular releases) of tropical origin produce a high female ratio. Hope it helps.

You are welcome Red October, other variables that affect female/male ratios in regular seeds:

- Lack of direct light-light intensity produces more males.
- Outdoor grows receiving direct sun in the morning usually produce more females than outdoor gardens that only receive it in the afternoon.

And MadMac commented also his experience and how he succeeded to manipulate sex outcome

as far as i'll see it here... it keep's the flower time of the mom maybe + 1 week
depend on pheno you take...

yes 70% girl's is true from the lot's i'll got...
THH had also around 70% girls...
only SamS last batch of OHz had 50/50 so far...
but i'll don't see the 70% in the hybrids with the haze...
there it's 50/50 as normal... depend also on enviroment...
more red light and high N gives more males...
first time i'll did this experiment i'll got 8 males from 10 THH originals...
i'll wanted males ... for my project when i'll started 3 years ago...
than it's easy to find a nice smelling male with great structure ...
thx
M.

 

[Guest]

Hey @ Koon, that's what it looks like, yes. I ve been keeping the feed in a bit since we had some good weather , now I m cutting down. I was thinking to get some canna mono K just for her...

@that was my fear too, Donald... So what, 2-3 weeks of ascending day duration would be the most she d go? I m curious about this experiment, let's see.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hey @ Koon, that's what it looks like, yes. I ve been keeping the feed in a bit since we had some good weather , now I m cutting down. I was thinking to get some canna mono K just for her...

@that was my fear too, Donald... So what, 2-3 weeks of ascending day duration would be the most she d go? I m curious about this experiment, let's see.

let us know how the experiment goes syd ,
id say your 2-3 weeks is likely correct though , or there abouts...

 

[Montuno]

So do you guys think that mine will keep on flowering after winter solstice or not?
I'm @37 N

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When she was born, when she showed her sex, and when she started to flower?
Salud from 38'5 °N.

 

[Guest]

When she was born, when she showed her sex, and when she started to flower?
Salud from 38'5 °N.

Hello Montuno!She could finish faster with better conditions and more light ,this room has bad orientation.I also neglected them a lot,letting them in very small pots ,very hot,very dry...This line is super stable and resilient.I usually get PM in this room ,she's clean til now.

18 June

9 August after some days away.

30 August Ready to die,I transplanted and moved to the room.

25 September feeling much better and sexed.

4 December

 

[meltybubble]

Happy they are used, they are amazing for breeding hybrids, and with luck you can find a female and maybe a male keeper that produces what you love.
-SamS

Exactly and I have been and will continue, some pheno’s sure I won’t find again but am quite sure about what to look for and which ones to use when I see them or as I see them.
So glad I did tbvh, the hunt continues.
Amazing being able to chat with you Sams, I hope you are staying healthy and sane with this madness.
Blessings.

 

[MAHA KALA]

@that was my fear too, Donald... So what, 2-3 weeks of ascending day duration would be the most she d go? I m curious about this experiment, let's see.

I use to flower sour diesel and its hybrids indoors at the beginning of February and then depends on weather I put it into greenhouse half or end of March, but when day light reaches over 14 hours, I check it for revegging, when it goes close 15 hours, it tends to reveg.. I dont do that with haze hybrids, as it revegs really quick under these circumstances. and at autumn when I light dep plants, I can stop with it when we get 14 hours of day light and then of course it is decreasing at autumn. with kush or sour diesel it works, but when I would do that with haze, it would start to reveg in week of 14 hours, even it is decreasing, it has like month of 11/13 in that time.. it revegs really quick..

so! who is going to flower haze under 13/11? very curious about it.. I would be curious, how long it takes for haze, under 13/11, to start to flower for real. 5 weeks? 6 weeks? as I dont assume first 4 weeks of 11/13 to be flowering, it is something between, more like it is still vegging... talking about flowering from seed.

 

[MadMac]

OHz S1

OHz S1

hello haze lovers,
well here we have my OHz S1...
and a 90' OHz male that is dusting my best cut's i'll used with Tom Hill Haze... (C99, A5 x C5, NevHaze x Malawi, A5 x Malawi, NHz x NHz (grail by Nevil), Z99, POLLY, ACE Malawi and Zamaldelica (first edition), 2 Queen Mother(old stock), A5 x Mextixa, C99 x OHz, Kona Gold, Iranian Auto, SSH Greenhouse, my fav OHz...)...last seed making this year... and only one next spring with the rest i'll have and don't want to waste... than i'll grow only the outcome... and choose the best to work on for the next decade...

one of the strongest OHz male i'll have found... OHz 90'

get hazed'
i'm full on haha
M

 

[herbgreen]

get hazed'
i'm full on haha
M

Get Ampd up on the haze!

Love the crystallized red stem

 

[CannaT]

hello haze lovers,
well here we have my OHz S1...
and a 90' OHz male that is dusting my best cut's i'll used with Tom Hill Haze... (C99, A5 x C5, NevHaze x Malawi, A5 x Malawi, NHz x NHz (grail by Nevil), Z99, POLLY, ACE Malawi and Zamaldelica (first edition), 2 Queen Mother(old stock), A5 x Mextixa, C99 x OHz, Kona Gold, Iranian Auto, SSH Greenhouse, my fav OHz...)...last seed making this year... and only one next spring with the rest i'll have and don't want to waste... than i'll grow only the outcome... and choose the best to work on for the next decade...

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one of the strongest OHz male i'll have found... OHz 90'
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get hazed'
i'm full on haha
M

Respect for your grow skills and breeding !!!

 

[Bnyest]

Chopped Todd’s OH male, it had almost no smell and resin to it but I’m still gonna get some pollen. I might dust few branches here and there.
Another OH youngin from Todd

 

[yesum]

Good work Mac, that is a beauty of a plant and so resinous. You might get a seed line going that is more potent and stable than what is available now.

 

[MAHA KALA]

tom hill haze

tom hill haze

 

[harvestreaper]

pheno 1

pheno 7
last two of todds @16 weeks chopped the pheno 7 gonna let 1 go a lil longer

 

[MAHA KALA]

I talked with Sammy and as I know he met Mac and they smoked some Mac´s haze, I asked how did he like it? he said, he would not smoke such psychedelics everyday I think it speaks for itself. dont understand, where those internet armchair experts got that original haze has to be crossed to be enjoyed or that nonsense that original haze is mids... will not comment their intelligence at all. it is useless..

 

[harvestreaper]

pheno 5 chopped last week lovely flavour and aromas tested it on a couple of friends who smoked the same hazes as me in late 80s all agreed like going back in time