question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[JohnnyChicago]

Haze or sativas for me is an easy plant to grow indoors you just need space and you need to grow numbers min 20 f1 seed now no haze out there is F1 apart from Nevil's Haze and the further you get from the old haze the less chances you have of finding things like the ancestors like burning bush.

My theory on the 1% to 3% of Haze people are in search of is they are ancestors of the original Haze F1.

Original Haze, easy to grow indoor.
Nevil's Haze is F1.
What else Hempy?


@MadMac That 90sOH looks very dangerous.
I guess I should have talked to Sammy too ("not smoking OH every day") Maybe would have done 1 or 2 bike crashes less since the end of the summer

 

[MAHA KALA]

hey hempy ,
can u elaborate on the 1 to 3% you have found in pure haze seed ??

from what you are and have said , you havent grown any pure haze , only hybrids correct ??

which makes your statement a little inaccurate ...

inaccurate.. definition of armchair haze expert?

 

[@hempy]

Original Haze, easy to grow indoor.
Nevil's Haze is F1.
What else Hempy?

What is the question Johnny ?

 

[mexcurandero420]

OHz x Sk#1 S1 beginning of November few years ago

 

[harvestreaper]

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[funkyhorse]

No my comments were accurate Donald were did i say i grew pure Haze in my post ?





Perhaps your just trying to stir shit Donald id expect that after i put your mate MAHA in line and i know what i found in the way of Haze throw backs Shanti had a idea as did Nevil of some of my selections .

I ran full grow logs Donald for over a decade on Nevil's Haze and many other haze hybrids 50% haze flowering for 18 weeks all documented no fiction but all documented fact.


The reason i never grew OHaze Donald was because NH was stronger even Mac said that thought you would know that.


This is NH21 this is what My Nevil's Haze looked like dose this look like Haze or not.
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Hi Hempy
I am in no way trying to stir shit
I am a fan of truth
Hempy, you are the expert, I am a newbie. This is my Nevil Haze MNS 2019 batch, it does not look similar to the plant you posted at all. The reason I bought this very expensive pack is because of all the hype in the forums about this strain and the way people talk about this strain is inducing to a lot of confusions, be them intentional or not.
Maybe you should call the plants Leet grow Nevil Haze 97' and find a way to differentiate between those heirlooms and the stuff being sold today under the same name by the seedbank that you say are the supposed holder of those heirlooms
Nevil Haze 2019 MNS girl
Hempy, so you think this is going to develop into something similar to the pictures you posted or Leet showed or I should chop this plant right away and put it into compost without wasting any more time because it will not give much hash, it is not very resinous

Close up bud Nevil Haze 2019

Male Nevil Haze 2019 MNS showed sex after 30 days

Variegated Nevil Haze male on the right showed sex after 10 days, I chopped that plant first thing in the morning. The girl showed above is the plant on the left

Ohz 90s MadMac repro sexing, when I compare other strains to this beauty, it looks like almost all strains comercially sold today under the name of haze are contaminated with indica

Nevil Haze has become just a brand and what I see is not consistent at all with reports and pictures
Seedsman Hz, THH and OHz 90s. First time I am seeing the same leaves and plants here alive as I see on reports and pictures of strains and sadly this seems to be very rare in the cannabis commercial world

 

[@hempy]

hempy you say a persons gotta grow out at least 20 seeds to get a true understanding of a line ,,yet you have not grown haze yourself and talk about its quality both past an present along with the effects of different breeding tekneeks with it ie inbreeding ,,i must of missed something important here cos that dont make any sense to me

What is the purpose of your post harvestreaper how about you just ask me direct questions so i can understand what your trying to ask me.

Nevil's Haze that Nevil made acted like pure haze i had some go 20 weeks and not one under 18 weeks of flower.

I know a lot about haze because i spoke to Nevil about haze from how he inbreed the haze he got from Sam you know the very early haze the results he got what he saw and why he ended up out crossing haze something Sam also suggests people do by the way.

Also the direction he felt haze should go and why.

The fact that i have grown pure sativas for over 40 years most being Thais and NH and other very Haze expressive haze hybrids gives me some understanding of what i am talking about.

You should focus on improving your growing instead of trying to attack me harvestreaper that would be my advice.

 

[@hempy]

Hi Hempy
I am in no way trying to stir shit
I am a fan of truth
Hempy, you are the expert, I am a newbie. This is my Nevil Haze MNS 2019 batch, it does not look similar to the plant you posted at all. The reason I bought this very expensive pack is because of all the hype in the forums about this strain and the way people talk about this strain is inducing to a lot of confusions, be them intentional or not.
Maybe you should call the plants Leet grow Nevil Haze 97' and find a way to differentiate between those heirlooms and the stuff being sold today under the same name by the seedbank that you say are the supposed holder of those heirlooms
Nevil Haze 2019 MNS girl
Hempy, so you think this is going to develop into something similar to the pictures you posted or Leet showed or I should chop this plant right away and put it into compost without wasting any more time because it will not give much hash, it is not very resinous
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Close up bud Nevil Haze 2019
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Male Nevil Haze 2019 MNS showed sex after 30 days
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Variegated Nevil Haze male on the right showed sex after 10 days, I chopped that plant first thing in the morning. The girl showed above is the plant on the left

View Image

Ohz 90s MadMac repro sexing, when I compare other strains to this beauty, it looks like almost all strains comercially sold today under the name of haze are contaminated with indica

View Image

Nevil Haze has become just a brand and what I see is not consistent at all with reports and pictures
Seedsman Hz, THH and OHz 90s. First time I am seeing the same leaves and plants here alive as I see on reports and pictures of strains and sadly this seems to be very rare in the cannabis commercial world

funkyhorse no ones an expert mate you never stop working out new ways of doing things.

The NH and SSH i grew were made by Nevil the rest were made by Shanti and purchased by 2003 .I cant honestly say what is being offered today but i have read a lot of growers who have grown seed sold in resent times and many are not happy some are many are not.

The NH i grew sexed around week 6 to 7 even the 50% haze hybrids need a minimum of 4 weeks to show sex or more.

I dont read haze smoke reports like i did 15 years ago in 2020 now people even say Haze is a great social smoke times have a changed.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

OHz x Sk#1 S1 beginning of November few years ago

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Are those from sams old seeds mexcurandero....I think the original breeding of the sk hazes were one generation removed from the original haze seed sam used...they look very sativa leaning.
Edit...ah I seen that its been selfed...looks very wild tho.

 

[willydread]

Hi Hempy
I am in no way trying to stir shit
I am a fan of truth
Hempy, you are the expert, I am a newbie. This is my Nevil Haze MNS 2019 batch, it does not look similar to the plant you posted at all. The reason I bought this very expensive pack is because of all the hype in the forums about this strain and the way people talk about this strain is inducing to a lot of confusions, be them intentional or not.
Maybe you should call the plants Leet grow Nevil Haze 97' and find a way to differentiate between those heirlooms and the stuff being sold today under the same name by the seedbank that you say are the supposed holder of those heirlooms
Nevil Haze 2019 MNS girl
Hempy, so you think this is going to develop into something similar to the pictures you posted or Leet showed or I should chop this plant right away and put it into compost without wasting any more time because it will not give much hash, it is not very resinous
View Image
Close up bud Nevil Haze 2019
View Image

Male Nevil Haze 2019 MNS showed sex after 30 days
View Image

Variegated Nevil Haze male on the right showed sex after 10 days, I chopped that plant first thing in the morning. The girl showed above is the plant on the left

View Image

Ohz 90s MadMac repro sexing, when I compare other strains to this beauty, it looks like almost all strains comercially sold today under the name of haze are contaminated with indica

View Image

Nevil Haze has become just a brand and what I see is not consistent at all with reports and pictures
Seedsman Hz, THH and OHz 90s. First time I am seeing the same leaves and plants here alive as I see on reports and pictures of strains and sadly this seems to be very rare in the cannabis commercial world

@funkyhorse I had your same experience with NH 2017, my plants were even more wld than yours, growing as Nl5hz pheno wld...
What I think (even if it might irritate some) is that in recent years NH has been working a bit to be more "comfortable" to grow indoors, or they have replaced one or more parents ... (same for ssh)

 

[harvestreaper]

What is the purpose of your post harvestreaper how about you just ask me direct questions so i can understand what your trying to ask me.

Nevil's Haze that Nevil made acted like pure haze i had some go 20 weeks and not one under 18 weeks of flower.

I know a lot about haze because i spoke to Nevil about haze from how he inbreed the haze he got from Sam you know the very early haze the results he got what he saw and why he ended up out crossing haze something Sam also suggests people do by the way.

Also the direction he felt haze should go and why.

The fact that i have grown pure sativas for over 40 years most being Thais and NH and other very Haze expressive haze hybrids gives me some understanding of what i am talking about.

You should focus on improving your growing instead of trying to attack me harvestreaper that would be my advice.

i deleted the post as i thought it futile to try to make a point with you alas not fast enuff ,,your a hypocrite hempy thats all,was trying to be polite bout it , you tell others they need to do things that you have not done yourself its all in your own posts ,,we all know you spoke to neville online ,so what ?? ,,i for sure can improve my growing skills i dont claim to be an expert most of my recent posts ive not been proud of more for reference purposes as ive had many probs last run maybe you wouldnt of even got em finished at all hard for you to guess not knowing the situation here but then thats you all over lol

 

[CannaT]

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[TheDarkStorm]

Has any one found a pheno similar from any packs to what popped out for leet from a single seed wen he was gifted 2 or 3 individual old seeds from nevils original breeding of the 97 nh....some pictures would be cool.

 

[JohnnyChicago]

What is the question Johnny ?

Nothing, Hempy.
Only that when in the same sentence you write pure Haze is easy to grow and that NH is a F1, someone could think your account has been hacked by MNS.

 

[Donald Mallard]

i deleted the post as i thought it futile to try to make a point with you alas not fast enuff ,,your a hypocrite hempy thats all,was trying to be polite bout it , you tell others they need to do things that you have not done yourself its all in your own posts ,,we all know you spoke to neville online ,so what ?? ,,i for sure can improve my growing skills i dont claim to be an expert most of my recent posts ive not been proud of more for reference purposes as ive had many probs last run maybe you wouldnt of even got em finished at all hard for you to guess not knowing the situation here but then thats you all over lol

this was also the point i was trying to make ,

but it seems to go over our friends head ...

 

[harvestreaper]

this was also the point i was trying to make ,

but it seems to go over our friends head ...

some harder to love than others lol

 

[CannaRed]

Wait... Hempy talked to Nevil???

First I'm hearing of this.



I'm sorry, couldn't help myself, I'll go back to being quiet again.

 

[Donald Mallard]

The topic of haze tends to become a dick swinging contest real fast and destroys any real attempt at a honest conversation of shared experiences people have had growing haze.

I spoke to Nevil about Haze pure and hybrids that would add up to 100s of hours if not more as it interests me as it did Nevil.

I have read every post i have seen from Sam and from people like Tom Shanti and read so many grow reports from growers.

I have grown NH and all of Nevil and shantis Haze hybrids for 20 years now and sadly after years away from the forums i no longer read smoke reports from haze grows like i did once apart from yours.

Call it luck i have found what people call the 1% to 3% you need to search for and once you do as a sativa smoker you get it Haze in my books is the ALPHA of sativas and yes its a Sativa Hybrid .

Haze or sativas for me is an easy plant to grow indoors you just need space and you need to grow numbers min 20 f1 seed now no haze out there is F1 apart from Nevil's Haze and the further you get from the old haze the less chances you have of finding things like the ancestors like burning bush.

My theory on the 1% to 3% of Haze people are in search of is they are ancestors of the original Haze F1.

No my comments were accurate Donald were did i say i grew pure Haze in my post ?





Perhaps your just trying to stir shit Donald id expect that after i put your mate MAHA in line and i know what i found in the way of Haze throw backs Shanti had a idea as did Nevil of some of my selections .

I ran full grow logs Donald for over a decade on Nevil's Haze and many other haze hybrids 50% haze flowering for 18 weeks all documented no fiction but all documented fact.


The reason i never grew OHaze Donald was because NH was stronger even Mac said that thought you would know that.


This is NH21 this is what My Nevil's Haze looked like dose this look like Haze or not.
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you have commented on finding the 1 to 3 % in haze folks search for , i have highlighted it so you can see , this eludes to you growing pure haze man ,
though i seem to recall the number was more like 5% but nevertheless , your comments lead one to think you have grown pure haze because of the way you phrase them ,

rather than saying something like

" i have never grown it pure , but this is what i have found in hybrids of it "

which would be more accurate and not mislead some readers ..



im not really trying to upset or stir the pot ,

i just like information to be both accurate and easy to understand , ie not misleading ...

your comments on haze hybrids are appreciated ,
and its true as you say quite a lot of the hybrids look like pure sativa , but that doesnt actually make them that ,



you cant comment on pure haze , its only speculation really given you havent grown it ...

it would be great if you did grow some hempy ,
im sure folks would like to hear your thoughts on it ,
im kinda surprised you havent sought it out to grow ,
it seems quite likely you would enjoy it given what the folks who have grown it say ...

 

[mexcurandero420]

Are those from sams old seeds mexcurandero....I think the original breeding of the sk hazes were one generation removed from the original haze seed sam used...they look very sativa leaning.
Edit...ah I seen that its been selfed...looks very wild tho.

Seeds were from a 30+ year old clone, which accidentally made some seeds thnx to a light leak in the tent.

 

[@hempy]

i deleted the post as i thought it futile to try to make a point with you alas not fast enuff ,,your a hypocrite hempy thats all,was trying to be polite bout it , you tell others they need to do things that you have not done yourself its all in your own posts ,,we all know you spoke to neville online ,so what ?? ,,i for sure can improve my growing skills i dont claim to be an expert most of my recent posts ive not been proud of more for reference purposes as ive had many probs last run maybe you wouldnt of even got em finished at all hard for you to guess not knowing the situation here but then thats you all over lol

No you thought you be a smart ass and throw the boot in and i respond to your post and its my fault right ?.


I quoted and saved the post i will leave it at that.