question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[CannaT]

I talked with Sammy and as I know he met Mac and they smoked some Mac´s haze, I asked how did he like it? he said, he would not smoke such psychedelics everyday I think it speaks for itself. dont understand, where those internet armchair experts got that original haze has to be crossed to be enjoyed or that nonsense that original haze is mids... will not comment their intelligence at all. it is useless..

Yes it is truth ,but why lots of people say that OH is hay.

1st. Compared to commercial strains when tested many cultivars from seeds you saw that example Big Bud(SS) cultivars have more THC than OH cultivars even Haze hybrids in this case NL5xHaze SS also have lover THC on most cultivars than BB.
But very few OH cultivars have more THC than any BB cultivar which range from 20-22% of THC. While higest BB cultivar have 18,5% thc tested in this SE.
So in realty people dont have place to grow many Haze cultivars to find golden one and many gorwers dosent have skills also to grow Ohaze indoors.
Also yild from OH is disaster compared to BB.

But high on special OH is worth more than any of BB cultivars.

While in 90's people breed with haze in NL they try to make offpsring with most of O Haze caracteristic that border on Commercial scale level.

So all of us loved caracteristics of OHaze that are passed to NL or Skunk HZ hybrids.

1 in 100 growers can make that quality O haze indoors so as I said before respect to this growing skills of MM.

Still the best highs i smoked in my life are mostly Haze dominat hybrids and pure Hazes.
They play with my emotions,look on things in life,
subconscious and many other body receptors and feelings that are hard to find in today modern hybrids.

 

[MadMac]

pure sativa blood...

pure sativa blood...

I talked with Sammy and as I know he met Mac and they smoked some Mac´s haze, I asked how did he like it? he said, he would not smoke such psychedelics everyday I think it speaks for itself. dont understand, where those internet armchair experts got that original haze has to be crossed to be enjoyed or that nonsense that original haze is mids... will not comment their intelligence at all. it is useless..

here is the corpus delicti ...
dangerous lime green long slender leaf OHz from the 90 lot...
not super yield but superb' high... she get also the OHz pollen from the male above... just another test to see what happens... if the potency etc is also in the new seeds to find... with hopefully better yield...
love those slender leaf's.. noo belly ... the purest sativa blood...
and the high is just awesome ... but can be also dangerous in higher dosage ... all other is weak after ;-)

love it
M.

 

[Hammerhead]

Those thin blade phenos will def make you feel like you need to clean your house.

 

[star crash]

here is the corpus delicti ...
dangerous lime green long slender leaf OHz from the 90 lot...
not super yield but superb' high... she get also the OHz pollen from the male above... just another test to see what happens... if the potency etc is also in the new seeds to find... with hopefully better yield...
love those slender leaf's.. noo belly ... the purest sativa blood...
and the high is just awesome ... but can be also dangerous in higher dosage ... all other is weak after ;-)
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love it
M.

Hey Mac you Are Amazing ! this is what you are >>>

 

[MAHA KALA]

Yes it is truth ,but why lots of people say that OH is hay.

1st. Compared to commercial strains when tested many cultivars from seeds you saw that example Big Bud(SS) cultivars have more THC than OH cultivars even Haze hybrids in this case NL5xHaze SS also have lover THC on most cultivars than BB.
But very few OH cultivars have more THC than any BB cultivar which range from 20-22% of THC. While higest BB cultivar have 18,5% thc tested in this SE.
So in realty people dont have place to grow many Haze cultivars to find golden one and many gorwers dosent have skills also to grow Ohaze indoors.
Also yild from OH is disaster compared to BB.

But high on special OH is worth more than any of BB cultivars.

While in 90's people breed with haze in NL they try to make offpsring with most of O Haze caracteristic that border on Commercial scale level.

So all of us loved caracteristics of OHaze that are passed to NL or Skunk HZ hybrids.

1 in 100 growers can make that quality O haze indoors so as I said before respect to this growing skills of MM.

Still the best highs i smoked in my life are mostly Haze dominat hybrids and pure Hazes.
They play with my emotions,look on things in life,
subconscious and many other body receptors and feelings that are hard to find in today modern hybrids.

simply, they didn't grow it or dont have skills for it, but judge it, as you can write what you want on internet. thats why they are armchair experts.

 

[MAHA KALA]

here is the corpus delicti ...
dangerous lime green long slender leaf OHz from the 90 lot...
not super yield but superb' high... she get also the OHz pollen from the male above... just another test to see what happens... if the potency etc is also in the new seeds to find... with hopefully better yield...
love those slender leaf's.. noo belly ... the purest sativa blood...
and the high is just awesome ... but can be also dangerous in higher dosage ... all other is weak after ;-)
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love it
M.

nice to hear. one day I will try 90´s haze. when I said original haze is much better than those dutch hybrids. they wanted me to look like fool the truth will be always revealed in the end. to reveal means to make known it through divine inspiration. original haze is divine inspiration.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

here is the corpus delicti ...
dangerous lime green long slender leaf OHz from the 90 lot...
not super yield but superb' high... she get also the OHz pollen from the male above... just another test to see what happens... if the potency etc is also in the new seeds to find... with hopefully better yield...
love those slender leaf's.. noo belly ... the purest sativa blood...
and the high is just awesome ... but can be also dangerous in higher dosage ... all other is weak after ;-)
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love it
M.

Is there any chance you can get a shot of the whole of that plant please Mac.

 

[@hempy]

nice to hear. one day I will try 90´s haze. when I said original haze is much better than those dutch hybrids. they wanted me to look like fool the truth will be always revealed in the end. to reveal means to make known it through divine inspiration. original haze is divine inspiration.

You cant help it i get that MAHA but lets keep it honest - Haze is a hybrid and all the seed being grown around the world called Haze was made in Holland.

Sam him self has posted saying haze dose best when out crossed do you know what that means Maha ?.

Inbreeding haze dose not improve it and each generation you get from the original haze the further a way to what was made in the 60s it becomes less of what it was once in short.

Has haze improved in the last 20 years Hell NO.

How many of these Haze hybrids you continue to attack have you grown and by grown i mean germinated seed and ran at lest 20 seeds to have any true understanding of a given line is about my moneys on few if any all you run is F2s or clones is my guess.

I am so sick of reading the same bull shit from you MAHA.

 

[@hempy]

Haze is basically a quality sativa experience once you strip away the marketing and hype is that better MAHA or is that still to complicated for you ?.

 

[Hammerhead]

IMO its all in the phenos that we find. There are def bad phenos of haze that show up a lot more than the killers do.. There is no magic haze seeds that produce the best weed in every plant you grow. Even the best grown haze can be garbage if the pheno is bad.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I agree 100 percent, although some will argue with one on this point. I know better

 

[harvestreaper]

you can think this an you can think that,,but it is what it is

 

[MadMac]

OHz ....

OHz ....

IMO its all in the phenos that we find. There are def bad phenos of haze that show up a lot more than the killers do.. There is no magic haze seeds that produce the best weed in every plant you grow. Even the best grown haze can be garbage if the pheno is bad.

very well said!
and YES not every OHz is superB'
in the two lot's 90' (20plants from 30 seeds) and Seedsman (5)
i'll got in total 5 amazing plants that i'll keep longer...
two of them are really amazing... but
you have to grow them proper until harvest (16 weeks) ...
and if you fail... the best plant will be hay...
but once you get a hang on...
you get the potency out of it ...
but also ... it's not every one holy grail...
some like it more stoned... or more heavy stoned...
that will not happen with the haze...
more the opposite ... you want to do something...
i'll love that... but not everybody like it...
it's all personal preferences...
and maybe with the age it changes...
first feedback from a lady who has grow the haze to perfection...
she is blown away... it's absolute the high she was after...
and she will grow it now every season outdoors with light dep.
well i'll always thought... this must be the weed for lady's

M.

 

[@hempy]

Hiya Mac in the last 20 years i have seen few growers focus on haze like you seam to be doing and you get big respect from me for that alone.

The topic of haze tends to become a dick swinging contest real fast and destroys any real attempt at a honest conversation of shared experiences people have had growing haze.

I spoke to Nevil about Haze pure and hybrids that would add up to 100s of hours if not more as it interests me as it did Nevil.

I have read every post i have seen from Sam and from people like Tom Shanti and read so many grow reports from growers.

I have grown NH and all of Nevil and shantis Haze hybrids for 20 years now and sadly after years away from the forums i no longer read smoke reports from haze grows like i did once apart from yours.

Call it luck i have found what people call the 1% to 3% you need to search for and once you do as a sativa smoker you get it Haze in my books is the ALPHA of sativas and yes its a Sativa Hybrid .

Haze or sativas for me is an easy plant to grow indoors you just need space and you need to grow numbers min 20 f1 seed now no haze out there is F1 apart from Nevil's Haze and the further you get from the old haze the less chances you have of finding things like the ancestors like burning bush.

My theory on the 1% to 3% of Haze people are in search of is they are ancestors of the original Haze F1.

 

[Veggia farmer]

I have been lurking in this and other Haze and Sativa threads lately. You guys make me really impatient for sprouting O.H. seeds I have waiting.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hiya Mac in the last 20 years i have seen few growers focus on haze like you seam to be doing and you get big respect from me for that alone.

The topic of haze tends to become a dick swinging contest real fast and destroys any real attempt at a honest conversation of shared experiences people have had growing haze.

I spoke to Nevil about Haze pure and hybrids that would add up to 100s of hours if not more as it interests me as it did Nevil.

I have read every post i have seen from Sam and from people like Tom Shanti and read so many grow reports from growers.

I have grown NH and all of Nevil and shantis Haze hybrids for 20 years now and sadly after years away from the forums i no longer read smoke reports from haze grows like i did once apart from yours.

Call it luck i have found what people call the 1% to 3% you need to search for and once you do as a sativa smoker you get it Haze in my books is the ALPHA of sativas and yes its a Sativa Hybrid .

Haze or sativas for me is an easy plant to grow indoors you just need space and you need to grow numbers min 20 f1 seed now no haze out there is F1 apart from Nevil's Haze and the further you get from the old haze the less chances you have of finding things like the ancestors like burning bush.

My theory on the 1% to 3% of Haze people are in search of is they are ancestors of the original Haze F1.

hey hempy ,
can u elaborate on the 1 to 3% you have found in pure haze seed ??

from what you are and have said , you havent grown any pure haze , only hybrids correct ??

which makes your statement a little inaccurate ...



perhaps what you have found has traits that lead back to originals , but its also influenced by other parents ...



one day you should strike up some unadulterated haze i reckon..

 

[@hempy]

hey hempy ,
can u elaborate on the 1 to 3% you have found in pure haze seed ??

from what you are and have said , you havent grown any pure haze , only hybrids correct ??

which makes your statement a little inaccurate ...

perhaps what you have found has traits that lead back to originals , but its also influenced by other parents ...

one day you should strike up some unadulterated haze i reckon..

No my comments were accurate Donald were did i say i grew pure Haze in my post ?

I have grown NH and all of Nevil and shantis Haze hybrids for 20 years now and sadly after years away from the forums i no longer read smoke reports from haze grows like i did once apart from yours.

Perhaps your just trying to stir shit Donald id expect that after i put your mate MAHA in line and i know what i found in the way of Haze throw backs Shanti had a idea as did Nevil of some of my selections .

I ran full grow logs Donald for over a decade on Nevil's Haze and many other haze hybrids 50% haze flowering for 18 weeks all documented no fiction but all documented fact.


The reason i never grew OHaze Donald was because NH was stronger even Mac said that thought you would know that.


This is NH21 this is what My Nevil's Haze looked like dose this look like Haze or not.

 

[MAHA KALA]

acid pheno of tom hill haze is stronger than any neville´s haze I grew, and I grew top cuts from Holland . we all know Hempy smokes bad weed, it is apparent from his highly frustrated posts

 

[MAHA KALA]

IMO its all in the phenos that we find. There are def bad phenos of haze that show up a lot more than the killers do.. There is no magic haze seeds that produce the best weed in every plant you grow. Even the best grown haze can be garbage if the pheno is bad.

this is known thing to everyone who grew it. and was said numerous times in many threads, I never deny it. of course, the talk was about stellar phenos..

 

[star crash]

Oh my Sweet Lord .. you guys !