Too long ago to remember the smell, but I don't remember pine.More of an earthy smell, but not Sonoran brick seed weed smell. Dark red hairs. remember back then it was all about hairs.Not so much trichome, until about 82 or so.
Panama
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Hi Gerardbutler79,
Yes, Purple Panama pheno can still be found in current Panama's genepool, although it's the rarest pheno to find, it's easier to find the green/purple phenos, which by the way are great too.
'Straight' purple Panama pheno smells like inflamable gas, very rare aromas that sometimes can be found in old colombians and other central american sativas.
Its effect is great, especially if you are looking for the more accelerated effects within the Panama line .... the green Panama phenos are also very uplifting and euphoric, and usually warmer than the purple ones.
Overall, the lemony incensey phenos have my favourite terpene profile of the strain.
Hi stoney,
Your Panama looks great! Is it a different panama line to our Panama release, right ?
I'm sure you will find great females and males in our Panama Breeders Pack to breed with your own Panama genetics, please keep us updated with the progresses of the project!
Welcome mcoocoo,
Panama works great in a wide range of temps, from quite high outdoor summer temps to colder conditions at the end of flowering.
Recommended temperatures to achieve the best outcome are around 25-27ºC during the day and a bit lower 22-24ºC during the night. But many growers have finished her in colder outdoor conditions with great results.
Hope it helps!
Glad you are enjoying your Panama, jay sus.
The pink panamas usually have lemony aromas, but can also show sweeter strawberry aromas in the fast flowering phenos. Thanks for the feedback!
Indeed Panama strains have most probably a colombian origin.
Hi elhecho,
I'm glad the aromas are improving with the curing.
You are right, skunk and skunk afghani hybrids have a great refined terpene profile that has become an standard regarding high quality terpene profiles and bag appeal in modern cannabis era, but i also prefer the effects and mold resistance of our sativa strains over skunk strains.
High Dubi
Yeah, I hope find a little strawberry because mine is early, right now is a little lemon/pine/pineapple/floral but is still early, I want a good cure because you see every day are getting better, more clear the green in the buds and it seem is turning a little yellowish, I think that this is the terpene profile, what I can assure you is everyday you can see more trichomes because is still a little wet but the buds when you touch them creak a little, good to know I only was especulating by my experiencie what I found is the skunk is more similar in flavour to the sativas still is different, skunk hybrids with afghani seems like you told us, more potent the smell and terpene profile but very much narcotic after a few minutes, the panama is clean clear and has a pleasant relaxed feeling after 30 minutes-one hour on the body, an effect I very much appreciate and I prefer this effect much more because the skunk hybrids are very much more cloudy on the mind and different what you feel on the body, in 3-4 months I will come back with a good cure and my thougts with a smoke report.
Yeah, I hope find a little strawberry because mine is early, right now is a little lemon/pine/pineapple/floral but is still early, I want a good cure because you see every day are getting better, more clear the green in the buds and it seem is turning a little yellowish, I think that this is the terpene profile, what I can assure you is everyday you can see more trichomes because is still a little wet but the buds when you touch them creak a little, good to know I only was especulating by my experiencie what I found is the skunk is more similar in flavour to the sativas still is different, skunk hybrids with afghani seems like you told us, more potent the smell and terpene profile but very much narcotic after a few minutes, the panama is clean clear and has a pleasant relaxed feeling after 30 minutes-one hour on the body, an effect I very much appreciate
and I prefer this effect much more because the skunk hybrids are very much more cloudy on the mind and different what you feel on the body, in 3-4 months I will come back with a good cure and my thougts with a smoke report.
jay sus
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this has very complex aroma. impossible to pin down exactly. lemon is dominant but there is more to it. found one seed in it. cool. mystery seed from panama. prob vb thai or purple haze thai hermie has pollinated it. will germ it someday. faster green panama really had almost candy/ice cream type of taste.Glad you are enjoying your Panama, jay sus.
The pink panamas usually have lemony aromas, but can also show sweeter strawberry aromas in the fast flowering phenos. Thanks for the feedback!
Panoramix14
Member
Panama
Just passing by to show you a couple of pics from our Panama clone:
Just passing by to show you a couple of pics from our Panama clone:
Panama Curing
Panama Curing
Here you have it 1 month curing
in wood and 2 weeks in the jars,
sorry for the bad quality
my phone can`t do it better ,
next week come a new one with
better camera
, smell sweet
the pine disappeared, lemon, pineapple
like tropical fruit when grinded, I am smoking
one right now, I think that the previous smokes don`t count
because this change very much then 1 month ago that was
very green and with too much humidity, you can appreciate
a little lemon and the wild flavour in the throat dissapear,
I have the feeling in 3 months this will be fire
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=340431&stc=1&d=1447965626
Cheers and good smokes
Panama Curing
Here you have it 1 month curing
in wood and 2 weeks in the jars,
sorry for the bad quality
my phone can`t do it better ,
next week come a new one with
better camera
, smell sweetthe pine disappeared, lemon, pineapple
like tropical fruit when grinded, I am smoking
one right now, I think that the previous smokes don`t count
because this change very much then 1 month ago that was
very green and with too much humidity, you can appreciate
a little lemon and the wild flavour in the throat dissapear,
I have the feeling in 3 months this will be fire
https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=340431&stc=1&d=1447965626
Cheers and good smokes
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Very healthy plants Hmong, and lots of females!
Best wishes for the flowering stage!
gracias amigo
my single PAN male is still stable, almost every of my other males in the room has already started to throw hairs. I was about to cry, this should have been a seed run for pure preservation, gotta do much more selection on my lines i guess
I can see how much work you have put into those Panama lines, very well selected. great Job!
My Deep Chunk male also throws some hairs, so I thought about dusting my DC girls with the Panama Male instead.
What do you guys here, think about this cross? Any experiences? I know the more famous reciprocal cross Panama x DC from pics, but have never seen a DC x PAN so far.
anyway dubi, thx for those genes and good luck with your new projects!
saludos, Hmong
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Panoramix14
Member
IMO and experience Deep Chunk is a very dominant strain for crossing. Not saying it is a bad thing but you have to keep it in mind. I don't really know how dominant Panama line is though.
Apart from that, crossing/preserving is a great thing to do!
Apart from that, crossing/preserving is a great thing to do!
gracias amigo
my single PAN male is still stable, almost every of my other males in the room has already started to throw hairs. I was about to cry, this should have been a seed run for pure preservation, gotta do much more selection on my lines i guess
I can see how much work you have put into those Panama lines, very well selected. great Job!
My Deep Chunk male also throws some hairs, so I thought about dusting my DC girls with the Panama Male instead.
What do you guys here, think about this cross? Any experiences? I know the more famous reciprocal cross Panama x DC from pics, but have never seen a DC x PAN so far.
anyway dubi, thx for those genes and good luck with your new projects!
saludos, Hmong
Hola Hmong
Panama was initially developed by kaiki, he did a great job taming the original panamanian landraces that composed our Panama hybrid and almost avoiding completely any hermie tendency.
Panama has been later refined and improved here at ACE for at least 4 generations more, since 2006-2008 using a wide variety of lines and good sized populations to choose from.
Panama is a very highly worked line in every sense, all the plants have vigor, quality, good mold resistance, great terpene quality, almost nule hermie tendencies (i haven't found a Panama hermie plant in years!), etc .... so it's one of the best sativa available for 'home breeding', it's difficult to produce a Panama hybrid that is not good.
I'm glad the Panama male you selected has been firm so far, and i'm sorry that the other males from other strains showed some hermie traits ..... males of some strains throw hairs when they are under stress like strong temperature variations or strong changes of photoperiod. I wouldn't use them for breeding, but it's just my opinion, if you have no more seeds of these lines maybe it's worth to reproduce them, make enough seed and try to clean the hermie traits in next generation.
I haven't tried a Deep Chunk x Panama cross, but kaiki did the opposite cross (Panama x DC) with great success so i guess both strains are compatible with the potential to produce great outcomes in hybrids.
You may ask kaiki more details about his breeding between DC and Panama and which combinations worked better.
As Panoramix pointed out, Deep Chunk is a quite dominant in F1 crosses, it's one of the best pure afghani lines available regarding quality. I grew DC and the other great inbred indicas from Tom years ago, but i decided not to use them in any breeding project due their low yields and very low resistance against mold.
I think that could be awesome your golden tiger x bubba kush/hashplant or panama x bbk/hp or panama haze x bbk/hashplant, the better you found for 2016, last one seems like a winner for outdoor growing, people that can`t do haze or panama haze like me,
could be a dream come true and I believe that would be a time travel to 90`s
could be a dream come true and I believe that would be a time travel to 90`s
speaking of the devil^^
seems I just have bad luck overall.
Even your Panama has some issues with this setup, spotted two pairs of pistils, the next day after your post.
like you said, I also asume the day/night temperature fluctuations, dry air and the small pots give them a hard time overall. I checked multiple times for light pollution of any kind, also sat inside the box, it's pitchblack like it should be.
always appreciate your detailed inputs, very informative
greets from freezing Austria, brrrr
Panama fd21
PS: A buddy and I wondered, If you (ACE) produce your seedstock primarely outdoors, or indoors too? We are just curious to know, thx in advance.
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