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elhecho

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High due<br />
no need to say sorry for anything at all!!<br />
This forum helped me in so many ways and it`s just awsome, to have fellows all over the world sharing the same hobby and thoughts, isn`t it?<br />
BUT<br />
The advantage here is, you can find a lot of experts and I´m just a beginner like you.
The only thing I can say is: I did it as described in this video and it went very well!
Here is a link explaining the curing:<br />
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqoI4JkBZ1U<br />
I found it very helpful to have a hygrometer IN the jars/boxes to have an overview whats going on inside and to avoid our worst enemy: MOLD<br />

AND as I said before: many ways to Rome...to cut a long story short:<br />
from my point of view the numbers are ok in your box as long as you open it daily twice till you reach something around 55% for 2, 3 days, than the sealed curing can start.<br />
One more advice: you have to find out, WHO is experienced and who is not cause evreybody is telling you something..even if he doesn`t have a clue:
I found three guys who really knows their shit!
Tangwena, ThaiBliss and MadMac.
Just send one of them a message and I´m shure they will answer you in a propper way!
Nothing keeps you more satisfied than enjoying the fruits of your own hands work, doesn`t it?!!<br />
Cheers mate and HAPPY CURING


Thanks THCMAN

It is, I am very happy to smoke what I was growing,
yeah for what I searched I think that is going ok,
I watched the video that you shared, very helpful

I will open twice a day like you told me and I will be careful
when it comes to 55% and stay for two or three days


Cheers mate
 

dubi

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Panama Goddess doing good outdoors from clone, in the pics with approx 45 days of flowering, making great colas, still needs at least 3 weeks more to finish.
 

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Hmong

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great pheno, dubi

buds looks more like skunk, Panama's almost too dank for a pure Sativa, amazing :)
 

dubi

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The more modern reddish/pinkish Panama parental plant posted in #1523 lost most of her red/pink initial colors in the last weeks.

It rained a lot in the past weeks, guess it did affect the pigmentation. Fortunately 0 mold problems due the rain.

Here she is on 18th October from clone almost done. Great sweet organic aromas.
This average Panama flowering expressions should be harvested on the 3rd week of October, when grown between 35-40 latitude, like is stated in our website description.

Just a few days a and chop down, forecast is not good after Tuesday.
 

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dubi

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The same Panama Goddess mother posted at #1542, but in this case being growing organically directly in soil, the clone was planted in early summer and soon reached over 3 meters, overgrowing the space for the other plants.

Amazing vigour for a F10 generation hybrid.
It's a very special mother in every sense, has it all: vigour, quality, resistance, potency, high quality central american effects, refined and desired lemony incensey aromas, deep terpenes, high yield, she takes a bit more to mature than other average Panamas, but she is worth, my favourite :)

A few pics of some of her branches on 18th October, she is so huge that is impossible to get a picture of the whole plant right now. Will try better next time.
 

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dubi

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Another Panama mother from clone, grown organically in a pot.

She is not from the same Panama Goddess' family line, but from a sister line. She also has similar refined lemony incensey aromas and a high yield of long colas like the Panama Goddess mother, although her quality is in my opinion not so good, but matures much faster.

She was quite exposed when we had great the strongs rains and hail a few days ago and she suffered bit (especially damage on the leaves) ... but the flowering did progress later quite well, without mold.

She has been harvested quite matured on 17th October, before the heavy rains of this week.
 

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elhecho

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Like sugar how I said, very cool that everybody can see the perfect moment to harvest, el punto perfecto :biggrin:, I think that mine were not so matured, this is the third week of curing in the wooden boxes and the lemon is coming back but very slowly...

if I leave open the door of the room, you can smell out of the flat and a good distance I already take care of that :bigeye: , when 4-5 weeks I am coming back with some data and pictures of curing.

Question for black hash, I have curing it inside a very little
hermetic metal box on top of a piece of paper, I read that need
3 months for cure well like the buds, any advice is very
much welcome.
 

Buddler

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Another Panama mother from clone, grown organically in a pot.

She is not from the same Panama Goddess' family line, but from a sister line. She also has similar refined lemony incensey aromas and a high yield of long colas like the Panama Goddess mother, although her quality is in my opinion not so good, but matures much faster.

She was quite exposed when we had great the strongs rains and hail a few days ago and she suffered bit (especially damage on the leaves) ... but the flowering did progress later quite well, without mold.

She has been harvested quite matured on 17th October, before the heavy rains of this week.
Very frosty specimen Dubi ,I still have some gt and panama going outside here 49th the plants like rain it seems such mild weather this fall.:tiphat:Bud
 

Buddler

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My last of the summer OD PAN this one has pink pistils getting cold and wet out .Still growing good mold resistence..:tiphat:Bud
 

elhecho

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panama week 4 curing

panama week 4 curing

High¡¡

This is week 4 of curing in the wooden wine box and my panama
buds smell like a pineapple candy, the thing is that in april
I traveled to Amsterdam and smoke a pineapple haze
(white widow x blue dream) and I want it for next year, so
imagine my face about a couple of days ago :headbange

ace thank you for read my mind :laughing:

:tiphat:
 

Gerardbutler79

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Hey Dubi is there a purple pheno you keep in the stable? Was always intrigued by your description of it. Poisonous gas etc.. did you mean the purple pheno smelled like ammonia possibly?
 

vinrusso

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Panama Red from the 70's was badly cured brick weed. And it was 35-40 years ago. Hard to compare. I would put it this way : If you grew Ace's Panama back in 1970's , it would have been legendary for those people that smoked it. It certainly is similar and in my opinion, far better to have the freshly grown properly cured product. Ace's Panama is very excellent, it will be super great if you can do it outdoors or indoors. You will be very happy, very excellent sativa effects.
It was difficult to know what you were getting back then, if it was bricked. Usually high grade Oaxacan and most Colombians were not bricked. It depended what state you lived in. Most of the US back then was flooded with Mexican. You hear people talk about back in the day. But if one didn't live on the west coast, it was virtually impossible to get good Hawaiian or Thai. Their just wasn't enough to supply the country.
 

Gerardbutler79

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LOL I think you will need a cooltube then :) intake etc and ready, could be nice torture scrog room. For the rest, outdoors in our climate is very nice and easy indeed.

trichburner, such 4th panama line as Dubi says takes longer. Is a thin, lanky and branchy sativa. Flowers in around 16-18 weeks and yield very low. Is a spared sativa of fluffy buds. Effect is very up and nervous. It doesnt like indoors much. Line is been openly shared for spanish friends for years in our Deluxe Mix (for spanish customers only) and some friends like and still enjoy a cross with sandstorm as well. If any interest, pls write dubi

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Hey Charlie, hoping you guys can enlighten me. So this purple phenotype is from a 4th panama line? I've seen it described as not resinous but the pics Dubi put up look pretty nice. The aroma is also said to be unpleasant or like gas but not sure what to make of that. Does dubi mean gasoline? Ammonia? Something like sour diesel?
 

stoney917

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Hey Dubi is there a purple pheno you keep in the stable? Was always intrigued by your description of it. Poisonous gas etc.. did you mean the purple pheno smelled like ammonia possibly?

Dont hold me to this but im pretty sure he does.... look into the breeders pack of panama..... they h a ave purple green n pink seperate. ...
I dont think its what charlie is referring to,,, i think he is talkin bout a 4th line not being used for the panama for sale..... which has 3 lines mixed.... i know it wasnt fittin into plans probably over dominant and fukin up the goal of manageable n shorter flower times...
 

stoney917

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Heres my pred.... im currently got 30sumthin ace breeder pks gettin sexed now..... lookin for the most sativa male.....s,,, to pair her with..
This plant will eat plants next to it. ... will take over a room
 

Gerardbutler79

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Dont hold me to this but im pretty sure he does.... look into the breeders pack of panama..... they h a ave purple green n pink seperate. ...
I dont think its what charlie is referring to,,, i think he is talkin bout a 4th line not being used for the panama for sale..... which has 3 lines mixed.... i know it wasnt fittin into plans probably over dominant and fukin up the goal of manageable n shorter flower times...

Thanks for the input stoney. Yea the 4th line is what I believe I'm looking for. Warcrafts purple pheno looks like an indica and the breeder packs don't advertise a long flowering purple pheno either so its a bit confusing:

In Panama Breeders Pack, we offer you the best genetics available from this amazing work with Panamanian sativas, that we consider is the best american sativa bred in the last 15 years. The breeding was started and developed by Kaiki since the beginning of ACE Seeds until 2007, then onwards Dubi continued the breeding of the strain until today by doing 4 more generations of breeding, using a wide variety of parental plants. We offer you our best F8-F10 Panama lines in feminized format, where you can find the best genetics from the different phenos that this strains has to offer: the green, the reddish/pinkish, the purple one and combinations inbetween.

Description of the mother parental plants:

Green/purple F10 Panama elite: It's the best Panama mother we keep in our mother room, found in our last selections with this strain. It's a very vigorous, strong and branched pheno, with very high resin production, dense compact flowers and refined lemony incensey aromas of american sativa. The effect is very powerful, clean, psychedelic, and stimulant. Flowering time is around 11-12 weeks, producing a high yield.

Green F8 Panama: Older green pheno that is closer to the first green expressions of this hybrid that had the cleaner and more energetic effects. This mother is a great example of this green pheno, showing huge vigour and yield. Its colas are huge, although not so dense or resinous like F10 elite mother. The aromas are woody, spicy and incensey. Flowering time of 12-13 weeks.

Panama red F6 S1: S1 of an excellent F6 Panama red parental plant that we have widely used in the first stages of the breeding of this strain. We selected a S1 coming from this F6 red line to stabilize this spectacular colorful pheno that shows beautiful reddish and pinkish pistils (especially outdoors). This S1 has a more moderate vigour and yield. The effect is denser, more narcotic and physical. Flowering time of 11 weeks.

Panama red F8: Outstanding pinkish/reddish mother that produces very high resin content, compact rounded flowers and darker incensey aromas. The effect is very powerful, dense, narcotic and physical. Flowering time of 11 weeks.
 

mcoocoo

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I have a question about optimal temps for growing Panama indoors. She has just started to go into flowering. I have been keeping her on the cool side 73-75 degrees F when lights on. 66-69 degrees F when lights out. Am I keeping her too cold ? Please, I need some advice, as this is my first time growing Panama. Please can anybody advise me on the proper temps for this strain ? Thank you.
 

bwoyrude

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Panama good enough to cope with the cold.
Cold fresh air and powerful light - mostly sativas love it
you can be confused by purple stems , similar with a lack of phosphorus (1st phases)
17-18C not a big problem, my ladies was in 13-15C.
be sure that the delta of d/n temp. was the lowest on the active phase of flowering.
 

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