- Opiated Thai Sticks: Myth or Truth? -

[oldmaninbc]

they are quite nice flowers ,
i can see the attraction to those deep red ones ,
very nice ....

Yes I really like the Black Swan, they are fairly sensitive to overwatering, medicinally speaking they would be quite powerful. I love the feel of a poppy petal. It's too bad their flower longevity is so short.
I take a morphine prescription, when I had to subject myself to a doctor ordered on the spot drug test, I realized the lab is able to differentiate between sources of opioids. Good thing I only like the opium flower, not the alkaloid. The Black Swan gets a lot of attention from flower lovers.

 

[flower~power]

Yes I really like the Black Swan, they are fairly sensitive to overwatering, medicinally speaking they would be quite powerful. I love the feel of a poppy petal. It's too bad their flower longevity is so short.
I take a morphine prescription, when I had to subject myself to a doctor ordered on the spot drug test, I realized the lab is able to differentiate between sources of opioids. Good thing I only like the opium flower, not the alkaloid. The Black Swan gets a lot of attention from flower lovers.

I failed a drug court urine screening (with horrible consequences) due to eating poppyseed Bagels … test came back positive for opiates. There’s no way to prove that I wasn’t guilty… and there’s no presumption of innocence either…

 

[Donald Mallard]

I failed a drug court urine screening (with horrible consequences) due to eating poppyseed Bagels … test came back positive for opiates. There’s no way to prove that I wasn’t guilty… and there’s no presumption of innocence either…

just couldnt resist the lure hey , hehehe ..

 

[oldmaninbc]

I failed a drug court urine screening (with horrible consequences) due to eating poppyseed Bagels … test came back positive for opiates. There’s no way to prove that I wasn’t guilty… and there’s no presumption of innocence either…

That's was unfortunate about your testing. I've seen that happen with athletes.

I didn't feel threatened at all when the doctor ordered my on the spot drug test as I was only taking the kind of drugs that I told him I was taking. What did surprise me was the depth of the drug testing and all the information learned from it. They were able to chemically identify drugs and were they legally produced or in a clandestine lab.

 

[Dime]

I didn't see much of it over the years, when Thai was being imported in and most of the people I know that did smoke them were like me, they tried them and preferred the normal Thai.

I often wounded, why did they opiate them, the only conclusion I could think of over the years was to get more people hooked onto harder opioids.

Or it was hemp they tried to improve and pass on as the real deal.

 

[oldmaninbc]

As a person who enjoys cannabis why would I want to change the nature of the high with an adulterant, it just doesn't make sense to me. But, there are probably some cases of it.

 

[@hempy]

Or it was hemp they tried to improve and pass on as the real deal.

You guys are coming across as being desperate to disprove something you clearly did not see or smoke.

No, it was Imported Thai that was laced with opium.

 

[Donald Mallard]

As a person who enjoys cannabis why would I want to change the nature of the high with an adulterant, it just doesn't make sense to me. But, there are probably some cases of it.

fore sure ,
especially at a time when u could get both of those things separately,
why not use them like that since they definitely dont blend too well ...

 

[Donald Mallard]

You guys are coming across as being desperate to disprove something you clearly did not see or smoke.

No, it was Imported Thai that was laced with opium.

no one has to disprove it ,
it needs to be proven for that to happen ...

 

[wh1p3dm34t]

get a time machine go back and check

 

[oldmaninbc]

You guys are coming across as being desperate to disprove something you clearly did not see or smoke.

No, it was Imported Thai that was laced with opium.

The only thing I'm desperate for is a good nights sleep and minimal pain.

It was the same where I grew up and hash was the dominant high with little cannabis around. Sometimes imported hash would be combined with opium, so they said.

Do I care, not really but what I do care about is the truth. Sometimes the truth is highly debatable, I would welcome any evidence to prove or disprove the claim. Yet, I won't lose any sleep over the topic.

 

[@hempy]

no one has to disprove it ,
it needs to be proven for that to happen ...

Where is that written, Wally ?

I don't need to prove a thing, I know what I saw, but I have shown how they process raw opium into smoking opium called Chandoo, and they add Tobacco or Cannabis to that to smoke, and that process dates back a very long time.

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First you couldn't lace cannabis with opium, then it was no cannabis is grown where the opium was grown, well they have all been proven have they not.

 

[@hempy]

The only thing I'm desperate for is a good nights sleep and minimal pain.

That was not directed at you, by the way oldmanicbc I to like the look of opium plants the flowers look nice, but I love the green colour of the plant its self.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Where is that written, Wally ?

i dont think i need to explain that to disprove something ,
first it has to be proven ...

First you couldn't lace cannabis with opium, then it was no cannabis is grown where the opium was grown, well they have all been proven have they not.

firstly , no one said u cant put opium on cannabis ,
and secondly , you didnt prove they grew, made and exported thai sticks from that area ,
one plant in a video that was in burma anyhow , doesnt prove anything at all ,
show me where they mention thai sticks ??? export gunja ,, any[thing like that please ...

this is really getting a bit old mate ,
im of the mind that others can read this thread and decide for themselves ,
the evidence points strongly to the no opiated thai stick ever being made in quantity for export ,
well except 2 they made and made sure they were sent to hempy .. lol ....

there is no need for me to debate this any longer ,,, im a busy man and not a huge fan of arguing with idiots to be honest ..
catch ya ....

 

[@hempy]

UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1965 Issue 3 - 001

India

Both ganja and charas came to be most commonly smoked in earthenware or water pipes sometimes mixed with tobacco, datura or opium. Bhang is sometimes smoked and sometimes chewed, but most commonly it is taken as a beverage (as is ganja sometimes) or confectionery. Numerous preparations in combination with various other ingredients exist and go by many different names. The effects produced are believed to be similar, with ganja four or five times as potent as bhang, and charas two or three times as potent as ganja.

Thailand.

The number of narcotic users in Thailand, including Thai (the majority now), Chinese, and hill-tribes people, probably approaches 250,000. Since the abrupt 1959 ban on opium there has been a steady increase in heroin use (mostly among the young who now predominate) although there is still extensive opium use. The heroin is taken by "chasing the dragon" and sometimes by injection, and opium by smoking. Cannabis is widely used in the country, particularly in the north-east by smoking in pipes or cigarettes or adding it to food. It is often in combination with the opiates.

UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1965 Issue 3 - 001

If one seeks to understand the use and abuse of mind altering drugs in a given culture or society, it is desirable to view the phenomenon within the broadest possible context, a context which will reveal the roles played by a particular drug, the inter-relationship with the use of other drugs...

www.unodc.org

 

[@hempy]

 

[Herbal-Essence]

guys be serious now this whole thread/debate is some kind of elaborate guerilla marketing scheme for this upcoming thaisticks movie ,isnt it ?

 

[Dime]

You guys are coming across as being desperate to disprove something you clearly did not see or smoke.

No, it was Imported Thai that was laced with opium.

You're correct I did not smoke it but I smoked imported thai on sticks,Vietnamese, and Cambodian in the 70's or at least that's what it was claimed to be and it was known for a soaring electric effect.So far there haven't been many replies from people stating they themselves smoked imported thai adulterated with opium. I'm not saying you didn't ,there's no way i could dispute your personal claim but I would think if it was mass shipped many would be affirming they smoked it. There are many members from almost all the continents that use this site maybe more will speak up to support it . Again I'm thinking of the work it would take to harvest,trim,dry it all ,then soak 10's of tons ,,then let it dry again then repackage then load it. Maybe it happened I don't know but those people didn't get much money for it I read $3 a lb or something wholesale,it seems like a lot of work for little money.

 

[@hempy]

Like I said, I myself only saw the Opiated Thai sticks ruffly at 4 different times, I bought them twice and did not seek them out again.

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I have been smoking Thai as I said since 79 and grown Thais as long, and I still grow Thai now.

I don't know how they made them or do I care because I my self don't want to reproduce them or smoke them ever again like you, I am more than happy with normal Thai flower.

Clearly, the use of cannabis and opium mixes date back a very long time.

 

[Raco]

Opiated hash patties