DurbanPoison
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That would be a hard loss to handle - better maties than mj's. Let me know if you change your mind about that PM I sent you. I really think you could benefit from it. I'm a changed man.
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NGB MICRO BOX
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thescissors
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Tarzan of THC said:
Hey nice cab! I just wanted to say you can QUIET that "whoosh" of air to almost total *SILENCE* with some home-made muffling. all one has to do is *surround* the exhaust port with foam, so that the sound waves are absorbed but the rush of air is not impeded. My box is virtually silent even with my stanley blower running on HIGH. the (pretty quiet mind you) ballast (have since downgraded to a single 400w due to power bill$) makes more noise than the fan/air... this applies to almost any fan. isolate it physically (hang from bungies) and then SILENCE it with a surround-foam muffler! (like a straight-thru performance muffler for a car!)
this is what im running now, with MASSIVE carbon filter (designed around 800w twin 400HPSes) the air is sucked out of the cab with a stanley blower mounted in that "backpack", then blows to the left into the silencer box where it makes a 90deg turn down into the carbon scrubber...
this foam-around-output idea makes a *HHHHUUUUGGGEEEEE* difference in the sound levels!! i was shocked myself!
this is obviously a previous rendition where the blower output went straight out the side before i had a proper scrubber on it)
adaptable to almost any situation...
stealth is KING! 
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DurbanPoison
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Thanks for that post man. I'm sure we can all use that. I will definitely be incorporating that into my next build when I re-design my NGB. Very informative - good work man. Thanks!
ummmmmmmm kind of looks like what i was playing with before i got sick but i made mine out of cardboard and some thin foam it help but not a lot, only problem i see is it getting a way from the stealth look lol like the back of mine is steathly but its a dam good idea to keep the sound level down but if it get to bulky looking in the back some one might start to get nosy, i want to try to do about the same thing but have it on top the cab in a utitaly room thats go all the way across the top of the cap with the top being hinged to open up to have full access to the room and the hole area lined with foam and built in carbon scrubber need to work on some drawing of it as soon as i get in the mood to draw
DurbanPoison
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An Idea for a new NGB Styled Cab
An Idea for a new NGB Styled Cab
I have no idea on measurements, but it's something that I drafted this morning. I'm not sure I really care for the ventillation, but if anyone wants to expand on the idea, that'd be cool. I have to build my new cab pretty soon as i'll be moving to a new apartment so everything needs to be setup and ready in before hand. Thanks in advance guys. ~DP
An Idea for a new NGB Styled Cab
I have no idea on measurements, but it's something that I drafted this morning. I'm not sure I really care for the ventillation, but if anyone wants to expand on the idea, that'd be cool. I have to build my new cab pretty soon as i'll be moving to a new apartment so everything needs to be setup and ready in before hand. Thanks in advance guys. ~DP
DurbanPoison
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Oh I forgot to label the other rooms. The bottom left is mother. The top left is clone - which ideally I want to have my clone dome able to fit in and one 30w cfl. Essentially it would be adding one more compartment. And to keep things easy - two doors. One that opens from the right on the left side and visa versa.
Hello all,
I liked to chime in and say that I think that utilizing independant vent systems for each chamber is far superior to the classic NGB box.
I would like to add you should design a means of restricting the air flow in each box so that you will be able to dial in your vent system to achieve the maximun efficiency. What I am getting at is proportioning your airflow through each chamber so that you can have some adjustability in hte temperature in each chamber.
Good luck and great grows.
minds_I
I liked to chime in and say that I think that utilizing independant vent systems for each chamber is far superior to the classic NGB box.
I would like to add you should design a means of restricting the air flow in each box so that you will be able to dial in your vent system to achieve the maximun efficiency. What I am getting at is proportioning your airflow through each chamber so that you can have some adjustability in hte temperature in each chamber.
Good luck and great grows.
minds_I
great idea minds i didnt think of making some kind of ajusting plate to adjust the air flow but not shure how i would do this if i where using darkroom vents but ur idea would work thanks for ur input, now any one have a idea on how to make this with out using pvc pipe?minds_I said:
DurbanPoison
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Another NGB Draft
Another NGB Draft
I built another design. Check this out. I still don't know what to do about avoiding PVC air intake use though..
Minds - I did take a look at your system, but it seems like there would be something else that can be done to be more efficient.
Someone needs to give me some ideas lol. I can't think of anything else that would be efficient/simple/easy..
Another NGB Draft
I built another design. Check this out. I still don't know what to do about avoiding PVC air intake use though..
Minds - I did take a look at your system, but it seems like there would be something else that can be done to be more efficient.
Someone needs to give me some ideas lol. I can't think of anything else that would be efficient/simple/easy..
I2KanGrow
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Hey Durban, Stevr, Minds_I... and friends!!!
Wow, musta been a slow weekend for all of us - check out My NGB MicroBox Modifications... Great minds think alike!!!
Wow, musta been a slow weekend for all of us - check out My NGB MicroBox Modifications... Great minds think alike!!!
DurbanPoison
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Man - your design kicks my design's ass... but congrats lol. Great idea on the ventillation - I hope to see more of it.
what about using the NGB design.. but making it 6 inchs wider and adding that 6 inchs to the utlity and mother room...
add a 8 inch darkroom vent at the bottom of the flower chamber (under the sliding drawer) and than using a cooltube or an aircooled reflector to suck up the air through the carbon scrubber and out the back...
the mother room will be cooled by using 2 computer fans.. one that will be blowing air into the mother room and the other that will be sucking air out of the mother room.. put these 2 fans on the piece of wood that seperates the 2 rooms... this would circulate air in the mother room and should be enough to keep temps within reason???
with the utility room being 6 inchs wider this would allow for a vortex fan or a panasonic fan that everyone is ranting and raving about... hang the carbon scrubber in the flower room..have the fan located in the utlity room sucking through the carbon scrubber and out the back...
whaat do you think about this design?
add a 8 inch darkroom vent at the bottom of the flower chamber (under the sliding drawer) and than using a cooltube or an aircooled reflector to suck up the air through the carbon scrubber and out the back...
the mother room will be cooled by using 2 computer fans.. one that will be blowing air into the mother room and the other that will be sucking air out of the mother room.. put these 2 fans on the piece of wood that seperates the 2 rooms... this would circulate air in the mother room and should be enough to keep temps within reason???
with the utility room being 6 inchs wider this would allow for a vortex fan or a panasonic fan that everyone is ranting and raving about... hang the carbon scrubber in the flower room..have the fan located in the utlity room sucking through the carbon scrubber and out the back...
whaat do you think about this design?
DurbanPoison
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I like the idea mysticls but I don't think it will work the way it seems like. Although I do appreciate the input. I found out that the way my ventillation is working so well currently is because I have a total of 8" of intake available for the fan to suck from (twice the area the inlet is). I'm not exactly sure what I will do but I found I2Kangrow's post and ventillation idea and I think we can expand on it.
Peace
~DP
Peace
~DP
well if yours is working so good than why are you goiung to change??
why dont you think my idea will work?? you would be uysing an 8 inch dark vent and that would be in your flowerroom floor... that air would be sucked in through your cool tube / air cooled hood / etc and through a carbon scrubber...out of the box
if you have 2 small computer fans on the wall between the flower + mother room.. one sucking and one blowing than it would be a good amount of circulation in the mother room.. you could put one up high that sucks the air out of the room and one down low that blows air into the room.. why wouldn't this work?? if they dont make some type of cover for the fans than you could connect a piece of PVC to the wall that covers the computer fan and it has a couple 90s.. this would block any light escaping
why dont you think my idea will work?? you would be uysing an 8 inch dark vent and that would be in your flowerroom floor... that air would be sucked in through your cool tube / air cooled hood / etc and through a carbon scrubber...out of the box
if you have 2 small computer fans on the wall between the flower + mother room.. one sucking and one blowing than it would be a good amount of circulation in the mother room.. you could put one up high that sucks the air out of the room and one down low that blows air into the room.. why wouldn't this work?? if they dont make some type of cover for the fans than you could connect a piece of PVC to the wall that covers the computer fan and it has a couple 90s.. this would block any light escaping
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DurbanPoison
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I think I misunderstood what you mean. I thought you were saying that the mother room wouldn't be air cleaned at all. After re-reading while I was replying to your post, I interpreted correctly this time. Sorry man. You know I think that's probably the simplest idea I've run across yet. I'm really going to look into this. Thanks man.
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Oh I forget to mention - the reason for changing is because I need more space. So I will be creating a new box that will be significantly larger; hopefully getting bigger better buds.
Peace
~DP
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Oh I forget to mention - the reason for changing is because I need more space. So I will be creating a new box that will be significantly larger; hopefully getting bigger better buds.
Peace
~DP
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well i am toying with the idea of making a adjustbly vent where one could adust the opening keep opening it till the door dont seal then back it off a bit till one get a slight seal on the door but not shure how this would work with dark room vents as i have never seen one but i asume they have lovers on bouth side any one have any idea on how to pull this off. and i just got google skect -up but i be dam if i know how to use it hope i can learn it soon so i can so every one my ideas on the box, and for thoue who care i am seeing the doctor tommoro and i should know how bad of shape i am in wish me luck every one cuz i will need all i can get
ok here is my version of the new box sorry its kind of crude but best i can do at the moment but as you can see i have the utily cab up top with the scrubber intake are adjustable dark room type vents and each room is vented on it own so let me know what you guys think
oh and i was going to make the hole top open so i can work in the room very easy
oh and i was going to make the hole top open so i can work in the room very easy
DurbanPoison said:
i am surprised no one thought of this.. this does seem to be the simplest but i think it would work great... i am also going to place 2 computer fans on the top of my resevoir.. one that sucks air in and one that blows air out.. this will help keep temps down w/o having to buy a water chiller
i am building my box and i have 4 ft width x 2.5 ft depth and 3 ft of height.. i am adding about a ft to the width of the box.. 6 inchs in the utility/mother room and another 6 inchs in the flower room.. i am doing to be running a 250w digital lumatek... havent came up with what kind of relfector but i am thinking i will go with a cooltube becuase of the lack of height with my box...
i figure with the extraa 6 inchs of width in the flower room i can throw in 1 or 2 soil plants in small pots, this way i can have a couple varities in here at all times...
do you think with 2.5 ft of depth and another 6 inchs of width in the utlity room.. i will have enough room for a panasonic fan + carbon scrubber??? i will probaly mount carbon scrubber in the flower room but i havent decided??
i want this to be as silent and discreet as possible
