What's new
  • ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!

"Male hermies arent bad"

Cerathule

Well-known member
Every parent a stable Tri plant.
So that's what "the Tri guy" means?!? I'm such an ass. All the time wondered... so you were able to isolate it and it's now dominant? Gee, then the whole .pdf isn't related to this... (?). Before I ask you countless questions, do you maybe have a place where you recorded these trials so I could read up on this?
And is this phenomenum stable even to flower? I know a guy that uses DJ Short stuff and he showed me a stable one showing (IIRC) even 4 SAMs per node. Back then I put that to a real breeding effort and not being related to the usual tricodyl seedlings that oftentime appear within a batch of seeds but then it disappears when the plant changes its phyllotaxis to grow only one fanleave per node.
 

Mudballs2.0

Active member
Hey what did you say about the methyl thing some time back do you remember?
Methylating dna? Yeah it's an avenue to explore still...i haven't seen anything that disqualifies it as a possibility.
DNA methylation is a biological process by which methyl groups are added to the DNA molecule. Methylation can change the activity of a DNA segment without changing the sequence. When located in a gene promoter, DNA methylation typically acts to repress gene transcription.

that alligator egg comment is reallly interesting too.
 

Mudballs2.0

Active member
Hey what did you say about the methyl thing some time back do you remember?
Maybe some of the dipshits im ignoring in this thread have posted information that disqualifies dna methylation as a modifier in hermaphrodite and sex suppression....but really, how many of you still reading this thread believe that? Lol...yeah..nah
 
Last edited:

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
@Cerathule best place to start, they became illegal on this site for a while and so had to delete most pics, then gypsy returned. So info is there, a lot of pics aren't.

But there are also these later threads.
This is more recent, has better pics that are still up, mostly. https://www.icmag.com/threads/bruised-nuts.256049/

Most recent thread with best pics, https://www.icmag.com/threads/ts1000-daisy-chained.377415/

Now let's let this guy have his Hermie thread back chaps, jump into one of mine if you want Tri talk.
 

Chuck Jägerschnitzel

Active member

This whole thread is fairly interesting, I independently developed the same hypothesis about male hermies that Redrum92 started the thread off with, probably a lot of people have. It makes sense to me that an effeminate male could breed effeminate leaning children, it's female children might be unusually resistant to herming themselves if they're also extra effeminate. My theorizing is powered by utter lack of conventional knowledge on the topic, I've had male hermies only with a rough transplant in early flower or from too much light at night and I've never grown out any of the seeds. I don't even know if plants have gender chromosomes or not or if reptiles do, but in my aquarium I have some fish that change gender as a natural part of their life cycle, so I don't see how their genetics could possible be encoded with some equivalent of XX & XY. If fish don't have XX & XY then plants probably don't either, fish are more closely related to people than plants are.
 

Mudballs2.0

Active member
This whole thread is fairly interesting, I independently developed the same hypothesis about male hermies that Redrum92 started the thread off with, probably a lot of people have. It makes sense to me that an effeminate male could breed effeminate leaning children, it's female children might be unusually resistant to herming themselves if they're also extra effeminate. My theorizing is powered by utter lack of conventional knowledge on the topic, I've had male hermies only with a rough transplant in early flower or from too much light at night and I've never grown out any of the seeds. I don't even know if plants have gender chromosomes or not or if reptiles do, but in my aquarium I have some fish that change gender as a natural part of their life cycle, so I don't see how their genetics could possible be encoded with some equivalent of XX & XY. If fish don't have XX & XY then plants probably don't either, fish are more closely related to people than plants are.
I was thinking about undifferentiated cells last night...and the non-gender implications in that, but i didnt draw any conclusions or anything...just a starting point im chewing on.
Alligator egg sexing, temperature, protein denaturing...damn...too many clues almost.
Ill look into the fish reversing too now but confess i think this is only the second time ive heard of it in my life. What species of fish are you familiar with in that respect?
 

Cerathule

Well-known member
@Cerathule best place to start, they became illegal on this site for a while and so had to delete most pics, then gypsy returned. So info is there, a lot of pics aren't.

But there are also these later threads.
This is more recent, has better pics that are still up, mostly. https://www.icmag.com/threads/bruised-nuts.256049/

Most recent thread with best pics, https://www.icmag.com/threads/ts1000-daisy-chained.377415/

Now let's let this guy have his Hermie thread back chaps, jump into one of mine if you want Tri talk.
Thank you very much (y)
 
  • Like
Reactions: GMT

Chuck Jägerschnitzel

Active member
I was thinking about undifferentiated cells last night...and the non-gender implications in that, but i didnt draw any conclusions or anything...just a starting point im chewing on.
Alligator egg sexing, temperature, protein denaturing...damn...too many clues almost.
Ill look into the fish reversing too now but confess i think this is only the second time ive heard of it in my life. What species of fish are you familiar with in that respect?

I have clown fish, a younger smaller male and an older larger female. When the older fish dies the younger one starts growing rapidly and becomes a female.
I started my most recent harvest outdoors in an unheated grenhouse towards the end of October, it was fairly cool conditions for cannabis. I got 14 males out of the 17 regular seeds that I flowered, the 5 feminized seeds I had were all female. I thought I should add a recent observation on the idea of cold starts producing more males in pot plants.
 

Mudballs2.0

Active member
I have clown fish, a younger smaller male and an older larger female. When the older fish dies the younger one starts growing rapidly and becomes a female.
I started my most recent harvest outdoors in an unheated grenhouse towards the end of October, it was fairly cool conditions for cannabis. I got 14 males out of the 17 regular seeds that I flowered, the 5 feminized seeds I had were all female. I thought I should add a recent observation on the idea of cold starts producing more males in pot plants.
...whether you are male or female is determined by a certain set of genes being turned on. In people, the presence of the Y chromosome determines this. The Y chromosome has a gene called SRY that signals the body to become male. In other words, the SRY gene must be on to make a male. In fact, if SRY is present in someone with two X chromosomes, they appear male and if someone is XY but has a mutated SRY gene, they look female.
...The same is true for species without sex chromosomes. For example, in turtles it may be that high temperature shuts off the turtle SRY gene so you get females. In the case of clownfish, the absence of a female results in a male changing to a female. We don’t know exactly how this works, but it’s possible that the female clownfish produces some sort of chemical signal that keeps males from becoming female.

woohoo glad you stopped in
 

Mudballs2.0

Active member
it's fkn got to be methylation and gene suppression...fack i can't think of an alternate route.
Transcription is the first step in gene expression, in which information from a gene is used to construct a functional product such as a protein.
@Mithridate
this guy has my respect from way back on Overgrow before i was banned (fk you sideways w. a rusted fork NorthernLoki) so i know he's reading and hasn't said much...if Mithridate says im wrong, i will look at where he's pointing but he's been silently reading so idk...
 

CreeperStipule

Active member
we all know about epigenetics and expression, you aren't worth a rub fella..... DNA>RNA>PROTEIN or transcription (on and off) and translation, so your point?
 
  • Like
Reactions: GMT

CreeperStipule

Active member
All these fuckers going on about XX and XY like they haven't been found and proven wtf is going on.... give yourselves a friggin slap ffs, stop looking at fish and mammals and read plant docs.
If your house is on fire do you ring the police? it's like you've just found your dick and can't leave it alone...
 
  • Like
Reactions: GMT

Redrum92

Well-known member
This whole thread is fairly interesting, I independently developed the same hypothesis about male hermies that Redrum92 started the thread off with, probably a lot of people have. It makes sense to me that an effeminate male could breed effeminate leaning children, it's female children might be unusually resistant to herming themselves if they're also extra effeminate. My theorizing is powered by utter lack of conventional knowledge on the topic, I've had male hermies only with a rough transplant in early flower or from too much light at night and I've never grown out any of the seeds. I don't even know if plants have gender chromosomes or not or if reptiles do, but in my aquarium I have some fish that change gender as a natural part of their life cycle, so I don't see how their genetics could possible be encoded with some equivalent of XX & XY. If fish don't have XX & XY then plants probably don't either, fish are more closely related to people than plants are.

Was it you I stole this idea from? I know it was from some Deutsch person on this site, but when I went back to find the thread of inception I couldn't!
 

Mithridate

Well-known member
it's fkn got to be methylation and gene suppression...fack i can't think of an alternate route.
Transcription is the first step in gene expression, in which information from a gene is used to construct a functional product such as a protein.
@Mithridate
this guy has my respect from way back on Overgrow before i was banned (fk you sideways w. a rusted fork NorthernLoki) so i know he's reading and hasn't said much...if Mithridate says im wrong, i will look at where he's pointing but he's been silently reading so idk...
Sure I read a few things 🙃

The likes of GMT, Tom and Djokoman been studying and speaking publicly about these things since back I was still in high school.

They are knowledgeable and passionate men, and honest. When I have questions that's who I go to.
 
Top