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Malawi Style Cob Curing.
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rod58
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and if i may jump in here , and well said swamp thang , i've been farming most of my life and made numerous silage pits in that time ...its certainly a fermentation process , though the product we introduce to the pit is fresh cut green grass or cereal crop as compared to tangs mostly dry weed . the process is the same , compress and remove as much air as possible .the finished product has a sweet , sugary smell to it , if the process fails then the result is easily recognisable by the smell foremost and then the appearance . i think as humans we have over the years become very tolerant of moulds ..how often do we eat old bread that has mould through out it , even though we don't notice it ,with in a few days it is there .
Smoking weed that has been cobbed is very similar to weed I had smoked for more than a decade while growing up. In fact, it is similar to traditional methods employed by East Indians, South Americans, and S.E. Asians, to name just a few, for hundreds if not thousands of years. Once again it seems that people smoking weed today somehow manage to think that they are the originators of curing or breeding Cannabis. Cannabis is actually one of the first plants ever farmed, going back 10,000 years or more. I am continually astounded by what can only be described as a self centered bias towards what people have "discovered" themselves, and look down upon the way things were in even the fairly recent past. We are obsessed with Cannabis, but apparently unwilling to research the Cannabis cultural past. Cobbing is nothing new! The idea is only being reintroduced by someone gracious enough to help out pot smoking newbies still wet behind the ears.
Thank you Tangwena!
ThaiBliss
Thank you Tangwena!
ThaiBliss
Once again it seems that people smoking weed today somehow manage to think that they are the originators of curing or breeding Cannabis. Cannabis is actually one of the first plants ever farmed, going back 10,000 years or more. I am continually astounded by what can only be described as a self centered bias towards what people have "discovered" themselves, and look down upon the way things were in even the fairly recent past. Cobbing is nothing new! The idea is only being reintroduced by someone gracious enough to help out pot smoking newbies still wet behind the ears.
Thank you Tangwena!
ThaiBliss
Real talk, sir. Real talk.
lemonskunk
Member
Ok Ok most of you are right. The point I was trying to make was its a gamble... We dont know whats in the cobs but we actually do know that most weed commercially available has biological contamination. One of the studies referenced in the reading material I had pointed to stated that 13 of the 14 samples of dried marijuana had biological contamination. I dont think its possible to grow marijuana without also growing other things at the same time. I know that bacteria and molds are all over my body, in my mouth, in my stomach, microscopic bugs are crawling all over our faces right now. I said it was probably aspergillus because for sure theres aspergillus on your buds, and on my buds too. Humans can tolerate lots of molds because we have an immune system that has evolved with the fungi, bacteria, and viruses over millions of years. Some humans have compromised immune systems. Theres plenty of cases of aspergillus lung infections linked to smoking contaminated marijuana. Penicillin is another problem on marijuana. Bacteria that cause botulism will make slime so that will be easily detectable.
To anybody that says its fine because yogurt is fine. All of the parameters in yogurt manufacturing are strictly controlled and checked. Yogurt is pretty much made in a lab and still there are recalls all the time for listeriosis, e coli, etc. We know nothing about cobs. Nobody has any good data. Theyre made by fermenting in dirt sometimes.
To anybody that says 135 degress in a car for a couple hours equals safe to eat, should feel safe eating that burger that was left in there yesterday.
Wheat is one of the oldest plants ever farmed too, but eat some ergot and see what happens.
Tangwena Im sorry for calling you a jagoff. I do respect what you do. I just thought it was prudent to point out the difference between what happens to you and what could happen to a patient with a compromised immune system. I think it would be really awesome if you could do some experiments on your cobs and really get to the bottom of whats happening. In order to find out it would require somebody with your experience to produce the cobs for testing. Some microscopic pics would be nice.
To anybody that says its fine because yogurt is fine. All of the parameters in yogurt manufacturing are strictly controlled and checked. Yogurt is pretty much made in a lab and still there are recalls all the time for listeriosis, e coli, etc. We know nothing about cobs. Nobody has any good data. Theyre made by fermenting in dirt sometimes.
To anybody that says 135 degress in a car for a couple hours equals safe to eat, should feel safe eating that burger that was left in there yesterday.
Wheat is one of the oldest plants ever farmed too, but eat some ergot and see what happens.
Tangwena Im sorry for calling you a jagoff. I do respect what you do. I just thought it was prudent to point out the difference between what happens to you and what could happen to a patient with a compromised immune system. I think it would be really awesome if you could do some experiments on your cobs and really get to the bottom of whats happening. In order to find out it would require somebody with your experience to produce the cobs for testing. Some microscopic pics would be nice.
lemonskunk
Member
Also the idea that burning the contaminated weed makes it ok isnt really correct either. Think about it. If you are smoking a joint, you are inhaling the smoke and vapours of the combusted weed (and I will agree that any bacteria will be killed in this process as its combusted.) But there is two plus inches of non combusted contaminated weed between that hot cherry and your mouth and you are inahaling whatever is on it.
Another point to bring up is contaminated weed is WAAAY more dangerous to eat that it is to smoke. This is because of the potential aflatoxins present from various fungal contamination. Very bad for the liver.
Another point to bring up is contaminated weed is WAAAY more dangerous to eat that it is to smoke. This is because of the potential aflatoxins present from various fungal contamination. Very bad for the liver.
Hi my friend you make good points but they do not apply here, I actually chew my bud not smoke it and have no issues, the Africans have been smoking cobs for centuries. The fact that there is no scientific evidence is not surprising as it illegal in most countries.
I do not sell pot, so there is no incentive for me to pay for it to be analysed, but I have offered to supply some if some body else wants to pay for the testing.
Its a personal choice to cob your bud nobody is being forced to do anything. If you have concerns then dont do it. I have pictures of the bud under micro scope somewhere in this thread if you want to see them.
This is for recreational use and I cant see how it would benefit anyone who is sick. There are plenty of other avenues to go down for medicinal values.
Its up to the individual if they want to try this method of curing, until it becomes widely
legalised it will be very hard to scientifically prove it for me, you just have to trust and take the gamble if you think its worth the risk. All this hypothetical discussion is worth nothing and is just based on conjecture without proper evidence.
So it just boils down to a personal choice, I see cobs as for personal stash not something for general use.
Regards Tangwena
I do not sell pot, so there is no incentive for me to pay for it to be analysed, but I have offered to supply some if some body else wants to pay for the testing.
Its a personal choice to cob your bud nobody is being forced to do anything. If you have concerns then dont do it. I have pictures of the bud under micro scope somewhere in this thread if you want to see them.
This is for recreational use and I cant see how it would benefit anyone who is sick. There are plenty of other avenues to go down for medicinal values.
Its up to the individual if they want to try this method of curing, until it becomes widely
legalised it will be very hard to scientifically prove it for me, you just have to trust and take the gamble if you think its worth the risk. All this hypothetical discussion is worth nothing and is just based on conjecture without proper evidence.
So it just boils down to a personal choice, I see cobs as for personal stash not something for general use.
Regards Tangwena
I've got some promising landrace sativa hybrids that I hope will be very potent and very psychoactive. they will not be pretty by commercial bud product standards and I've found it very difficult to sell fantastic smoke without indica dom frosty 'bag candy' bag appeal. i'm going to cob some of these ugly ducklings and try them out in the commercial market. only way to find out.....
Hi buddy if it was me I would try cutting one cob up into joint size pieces and offer them as tastes so people could sample the product first. I expect once the customer had tried them they would get over the new look and accept them for what they are, not how they look. It works for people i know, people I give them to react that way and cant get enough.
Tangwena
UPDATE: it's been about two months since I unwrapped this cob and since then it's been happily curing in a mason jar in a cool and dark closet. on the left are a couple comparable popcorn nuglets from the same plant that have been curing using basically simon's method.
SMELL: the simons cured buds retained a more complex aroma, with the sharper and skunkier notes most prominent. the cob is sweeter, still loud in the middle band of its terp profile, but the sharper high notes are muted.
FLAVOR: I dislike the cob's flavor in a joint. the second hand smoke reminds me of tobacco. in a bong the taste is sweet and sharp, and stays on the palate for a long time. leaves a bit of a tingle on the tongue. one of the most interesting differences I've noted is that the cobbed bud does not foul the bong water! it's absolutely fascinating! no tarry resin build up noticeable either, although I admittedly smoke much higher volumes of Simon cured bud in this pipe.
EFFECT: the cob has a noticeably altered head from the jar cured weed. more psychadelic and at the same time also more narcotic. definitely sandbags my eyelids where the jarred bud does not.
I'm hoping to get it lab tested for more data on the specific differences in profiles and whatnot.
cant wait to try it again!
Levitationofme
Well-known member
I said an egg will be pasteurized not cooked.
If you vacuum pack a raw burger and put it in a 135 degree water-bath for a couple hours it too will be pasteurized and cooked medium. After which a quick blast with a torch, or seared in hot pan will give you the crust.
You should check out modernest cuisine it's awesome stuff. I cook lamb shanks for 48 hours at 130 degrees
And have a medium rare falling off the bone tender end product. Which also is fully pasteurized.
Levitationofme
Well-known member
Also, IMO a mountain is being made of a Cobb. Which is basically a cannabis flower jerkey.
Cobb is age old tradition used for recreation.
Also for some deep trippy thought sessions that help expand our minds and spirits.
There within is the benefit.
That's truth.
If you have a compromised immune system, and you have any doubts. Don't smoke them or chew them like tobacco. Your body and common sense seems to be casting those doubts. I would not chance it. Not worth the risk. Especially if you have gone through all the trouble to grow your own to your own weed to suit your medical needs.
In my case the fascination with cobbing is changing the effects of my weed. It is just cool to do as well.
Fortunately in my case the only problem weed solves for me is depression. I get sad when I can't get high.
Pardon my possible bad taste there but I like to sneak in the cheech n chong when I can.
Hero worship......
My next try will include one with some pre dried shrooms mixed in. Sounds
Phenomenal
Defiantly a treat for a music festival
This is 2 month cured under Dino-lite digital scope. It's not as good as a decent microscope.
Cobb is age old tradition used for recreation.
Also for some deep trippy thought sessions that help expand our minds and spirits.
There within is the benefit.
That's truth.
If you have a compromised immune system, and you have any doubts. Don't smoke them or chew them like tobacco. Your body and common sense seems to be casting those doubts. I would not chance it. Not worth the risk. Especially if you have gone through all the trouble to grow your own to your own weed to suit your medical needs.
In my case the fascination with cobbing is changing the effects of my weed. It is just cool to do as well.
Fortunately in my case the only problem weed solves for me is depression. I get sad when I can't get high.
Pardon my possible bad taste there but I like to sneak in the cheech n chong when I can.
Hero worship......
My next try will include one with some pre dried shrooms mixed in. Sounds
Phenomenal
Defiantly a treat for a music festival
This is 2 month cured under Dino-lite digital scope. It's not as good as a decent microscope.
Yep, smoking pot is very dangerous.
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Hi my friend my monies on "its going to fuck you up ha ha"..nice report on your cobs @heady blunts, thank you!
i just vac-sealed my first malawi-cob today and it´s a very sweeet smell, reminds me on marzipan..so excited about the outcome!
i´m gonna show some pics in a week or so
Malawi sweat cured (cobbed) is very potent, better not plan on doing anything that day my friend he he.
Tangwena
subrovka
Member
..unfortunately i had no maize wrappers for the first cob, as i´m waiting for the golden bantams on my balcony to be ready.
so i rolled a good ounce of a peppery malawi pheno in a brown bakery paper-bag to a cob after it was dried for 3 days and crusty on the outside and let it sweat at first in a zip-log bag without vacuum in a relative warm place. after some hours i could see a precipitation of water in the bag, then i transfered the cob in a vacuum bag:
so i rolled a good ounce of a peppery malawi pheno in a brown bakery paper-bag to a cob after it was dried for 3 days and crusty on the outside and let it sweat at first in a zip-log bag without vacuum in a relative warm place. after some hours i could see a precipitation of water in the bag, then i transfered the cob in a vacuum bag:
Can't wait for my next cob, the Zamaldelica one I made is
almost used up.
I use it sometimes as an additive to other buds I have,
like a mixed salad, lol
Strait up in a bowl, a couple tokes, is just fantastic, but not a everyday type smoke.
Thanks again for the thread, such a great way to enjoy our harvests!
almost used up.
I use it sometimes as an additive to other buds I have,
like a mixed salad, lol
Strait up in a bowl, a couple tokes, is just fantastic, but not a everyday type smoke.
Thanks again for the thread, such a great way to enjoy our harvests!
Hi DC you dont know the half of it, it takes at least half a dozen goes before you hit the nail on the head. I would say 1 in 10 chance to get it spot on first go. Try varying the sweat time on both the initial sweat and the vac sealed sweat. Then of course you have the aging.
Not to mention the other variable like phenotype, strain and maturity.
Its a trip when you even get close, and of course we all have different tastes and objectives.
I still surprise myself every harvest when another piece of the puzzle falls into place.
Get everything right and its the best high you could ever imagine.
But respect to you my friend for jumping right in it takes a bit of guts, what with all the paranoia around. Cobs for life I say.
Tangwena
Not to mention the other variable like phenotype, strain and maturity.
Its a trip when you even get close, and of course we all have different tastes and objectives.
I still surprise myself every harvest when another piece of the puzzle falls into place.
Get everything right and its the best high you could ever imagine.
But respect to you my friend for jumping right in it takes a bit of guts, what with all the paranoia around. Cobs for life I say.
Tangwena
Very nice concise report. Its interesting about the bong water, I dont use one so haven't noticed. But it makes sense as I find the aged cob smoke smoother than the same jar cured buds.
I will be very interested in a lab report on the two types of bud its about time someone did one.
If you can try cobbing a pure sativa, the hybrids always get dragged down by the Indica influence I find.The trippier and racier the bud going in the better the end result IMO.
But respect to you for giving it a go and its very pleasing to hear you will give it a go again, good on you my friend.
Tangwena
