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Weird

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Mate Dave

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Stu looks like I have seen her in plants this side of the pond. the buds are more saliva than what we have for that sort of 'Skinny Leaf' the plant's we have are more 50-50 than 70-30..

It's got that green look about it and all the traits seem to be that of NL Skunk haze..

What's the nose on it like and the taste? I expect it's a one off...
 

Weird

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creamy with an ssh undertone translates the same taste or smoke for me

smell of burnt flower is closer to frankincense
 

Microbeman

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Frank; The one I regret not running straight and keeping is Guerrero. I did cross it with Panama Red (old school eh?)

Dave: I've gotta correct you on the Guano tea thing. It is actually more a manure tea than an aerated compost tea (ACT). There are certain 'rare' guano products which composted or were recycled by arthropods on site which could qualify it as compost but 99% on the market is (AFAIK) manure.

It therefore would not have the microbial maturity/diversity required for a full consortium in ACT.
 

Mate Dave

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I wasn't aware it needed processing through something like an animal for it to become Compost... I thought composting gave it bioremediation properties, different to fresh manure. I assumed Guano in caves did the C-N thing on it's own.

With guano teas having to be brewed without the chlorine to obtain any microbial activity whereas fresh poo it's not an issue the chlorine it's a plant nutriment, essential for chlorophyll production. There is clearly advantages and disadvantages to all teas.

Milk being a great soil feed but taking time to work...
 

dank.frank

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Thanks for posting those up Weird! Makes me a bit gleeful to know that Stu is still alive and well. Always nice to see brand new in the same thread as the old school. :respect:

Shire 2.0 looks ... different.



dank.Frank
 

Weird

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yeah its not straight up shire crossed to itslef it has a "secret" ingredient, so I will be able to offer a will be running P1 next for a comparison
 

xmobotx

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Thanks for your help. So if I went with the same ratios but swap the bone meal for fish bone meal at the same proportions, keep the kelp meal, and substitute something for the blood meal, I'll be alright? What should I substitute for blood meal? Also what's wrong with blood and bone aside from being from the cattle industry? I dislike cow farming but I'm a mushroom grower so I dig using waste products to grow things, hence my desire to get away from chemical ferts. The problem is that I have a nauseating of money in my grow, and am scared risking new methods and stuff, but I don't have much of a choice as I can't keep paying all my money to the grow store and survive. I'm sorry for pestering I just can't seem wrap my head around all this shit after a lot of reading. It's like every time I find a recipe and ask there is something wrong and outdated. I just want something on the cheap side, reliable, and hard to mess up.

Thanks again, I'll definitely try to read through all the pages of that thread this weekend.

i'm big on balanced additions; things like crab meal, alfalfa meal, neem, kelp et al that either used to be plants or are fairly complex can stand on their own. it's the same principle as decayed/decaying previous generations of plants feeding the current/future generations

the only real issue w/ bone meal is the sustainability/slaughter factor ~why i say, "if you have it, use it" {worse would be to throw it away?} blood on the other hand is simply too soluble. you have to be really careful about using too much {people say "too hot" which means the same thing as too available/too soluble} then there's the N myth. we have to think about this, it's part of nearly every input you put in your soil mix ~much like carbon. And, it's in the air around you by the ton. too much N causes plants to grow too fast or not at all. it can cause your mix to compost & heat up.

when you learn how it works, if you wanted, you could build a soil w/ zero monetary input
 

Microbeman

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wasn't aware it needed processing through something like an animal for it to become Compost

This is not what I said. I used the word 'or' in between. Something like manure digested by worms or insects accumulates an adequate microbial population. OR in rare instances there are caves left long enough unmolested for the poop to age/compost statically.
 

Avinash.miles

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wasup organic heads? nice looking nugs you got their weird... good job
remember a while back i asked about using malted buckwheat/buckwheat SST ?
i'm wondering when the best time to apply buckwheat sst's would be? i'm in week 3 of bloom now and have been giving barley sst, have switched to corn sst now.... but still have a bag of this malted buckwheat.
 
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VortexPower420

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I personally mix it up.

It's just me but I feel that all have their own mix goodies and diversity is key.

I save the expensive corn for flower and the alfalfa for veg. That's about my only rules on sst.

Just about the only thing I do regularly.

I also add sea mineral to every sst before I water. I feel the co enzymes help out, or at least I hope they do.
 

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