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Joe Biden Thread

gladysvjubb

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It is just GREED. By people that could not make an honest living, save, invest and retire. Once the GREED is coupled with extraordinary perceived powers, they lose touch with reality.
 

Klompen

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Thorium reactors are only recently becoming somewhat reliable, and that is mostly due to modern materials. The process of salt reactors is very corrosive. Its not an easy tech to make work.

United States chose a uranium/plutonium based nuclear energy program specifically to have material to make weapons as well. Thorium would have been a better choice, not perfect, but the half lifes on the waste wouldn’t have been so long.
Nuclear energy always came with a promise of “we will get better technology to deal with the waste” that never has materialized.
I’ve lived within ten miles of one in the past, friends dad spent his whole career there, it’s a superfund site now because it maxed out its storage, has above and below ground storage.
 

Klompen

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Israel has had them for decades. how many suicide bombers in the middle east were Jewish? write down that number. now, how many have been Muslim? okay, now...think real hard. who is more likely to use a bomb if they have one? this is not a trick question. yeah, i know, i'm holding past behavior up as what future behavior might be. profiling is a terrible thing, isn't it?

Perhaps you'll consider the perspective of someone involved:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.
Contrast this with Iran's position on nuclear weapons:

"In the case of the key and very beneficial nuclear science ... when it was paired with a thirst for more power, it resulted in the creation of the nuclear weapon and turned into a major threat to the world and humanity," Khamenei said. "Although we have always had the ability to tread this path, we declared it haram [forbidden by religion] according to the verdict of the beloved Islam, and therefore there is no reason for us to expend our resources on developing and stockpiling a weapon that is absolutely prohibited [by Islam] to use."
 
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oldhaole

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You mean the same Washington post that is owned by Jeff Bezos and recently took a 600 million dollar investment from the CIA?

https://hangthebankers.com/washington-post-owner-receives-600-million-cia/


Yep, the very same one.

I know the first part is right. Jeff Bezos owns the post. As for the second you gonna have to source a little bit better to prove your point. One of the countless companies he owns, a tiny one called Amazon (280 billion in retail sales last year)...has a contract with the CIA. Almost everybody has a contract with Amazon, myself included. Oh my! I guess that's why he's a billionaire and I'm not.

But that's not what you said. You said the Washington Post took a $600 million contract. You implied the Post is crooked, taking a bribe, when a separate company, Amazon, owned by the same guy made some money. That's why we gotta fact check statements like the one you just made. We get it, you don't like billionares, but you don't need to slant the facts. The internet is out there... and we can read.
 

armedoldhippy

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Perhaps you'll consider the perspective of someone involved:

Contrast this with Iran's position on nuclear weapons:

i have already considered that perspective. it has long been viewed that Israeli nukes were a "doomsday" possession, that if so under siege that they were going to be overrun, would just launch their weapons at regional capitals AND themselves, going out with a bang as it were.. considering some of their neighbors stated intentions, i can't say much that i blame them. Irans' "position" on nuclear weapons... LOL! pretty words designed to lull the gullible into relaxation. "oh, look over THERE!" i think i admire the open threat versus the distraction maneuver. no doubt about intentions, eh? JMHO
 

Klompen

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Yep, the very same one.

I know the first part is right. Jeff Bezos owns the post. As for the second you gonna have to source a little bit better to prove your point. One of the countless companies he owns, a tiny one called Amazon (280 billion in retail sales last year)...has a contract with the CIA. Almost everybody has a contract with Amazon, myself included. Oh my! I guess that's why he's a billionaire and I'm not.

But that's not what you said. You said the Washington Post took a $600 million contract. You implied the Post is crooked, taking a bribe, when a separate company, Amazon, owned by the same guy made some money. That's why we gotta fact check statements like the one you just made. We get it, you don't like billionares, but you don't need to slant the facts. The internet is out there... and we can read.

So you're saying its ok that the Washington Post does not disclose its ties to the CIA when it publishes about them?

Just look at this article, published after news came out that the Post had been publishing lies about Trump at the direction of Obama. Not one mention of their relationship even to Amazon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...king-multiple-providers-massive-new-contract/

They do this constantly: publish articles where they really should be disclosing ties to the CIA/Amazon but mention neither. They have no problem disclosing their relationship to Amazon in other context, but when it comes to anything involving the CIA they just don't bother coincidentally enough.

If they aren't taking bribes or letting it affect them; they sure are acting strange about it.
 

Klompen

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i have already considered that perspective. it has long been viewed that Israeli nukes were a "doomsday" possession, that if so under siege that they were going to be overrun, would just launch their weapons at regional capitals AND themselves, going out with a bang as it were.. considering some of their neighbors stated intentions, i can't say much that i blame them. Irans' "position" on nuclear weapons... LOL! pretty words designed to lull the gullible into relaxation. "oh, look over THERE!" i think i admire the open threat versus the distraction maneuver. no doubt about intentions, eh? JMHO

I don't think you understand what a big deal a fatwah from the Ayatollah is to them. We've seen in their fight against ISIS that Iranians are not afraid to die for him, but we're supposed to believe that when Khomeini says that nuclear weapons are unholy and unislamic that people will just assume he's kidding. Developing nuclear weapons after issuing that Fatwah would get him attacked by his peers.

I mean, we're supposed to believe that Iran just has to have been fucked with for the last 80 years without stop, because they're such fanatical Islamic radicals that they will commit Jihad on America or whatever, but they're apparently not devout enough to listen to their highest cleric telling them things like this:

We believe that besides nuclear weapons, other types of weapons of mass destruction such as chemical and biological weapons also pose a serious threat to humanity. The Iranian nation which is itself a victim of chemical weapons feels more than any other nation the danger that is caused by the production and stockpiling of such weapons and is prepared to make use of all its facilities to counter such threats.
We consider the use of such weapons as haraam and believe that it is everyone's duty to make efforts to secure humanity against this great disaster.
 

oldhaole

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So you're saying its ok that the Washington Post does not disclose its ties to the CIA when it publishes about them?

Just look at this article, published after news came out that the Post had been publishing lies about Trump at the direction of Obama. Not one mention of their relationship even to Amazon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...king-multiple-providers-massive-new-contract/

They do this constantly: publish articles where they really should be disclosing ties to the CIA/Amazon but mention neither. They have no problem disclosing their relationship to Amazon in other context, but when it comes to anything involving the CIA they just don't bother coincidentally enough.

If they aren't taking bribes or letting it affect them; they sure are acting strange about it.


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

You seem to think that Jeff Bezos has day to day control of either of those companies. He doesn't. Both are publicly held companies, owned by stockholders. Their functions don't overlap. The Post won't see a penny of the money the CIA allegedly spends at Amazon. One doesn't influence the other. Hell, Jeff also owns Whole Foods. Using your logic he should disclose what the government spends there on food? What about all his other companies? Close to fifty of them. Let's disclose what the government spends there too. That's gonna be alot of wasted newsprint explaining who owns what and how much of what.

Now let's talk about FOX news owner Rupert Maggot. That guy controls over 800 separate companies, one of which is FOX. I don't see any full disclosure over there either. Because it just isn't done. There would be no time for news, because it would take 45 minutes out of each hour to cover all the potential conflicts of interest.

All these companies have one thing in common, They must answer to their shareholders. Not one of them, all of them. The Post won't lose money so Amazon will make it. And that keeps them as honest as you can expect when you deal with the moneylenders.
 

gaiusmarius

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i can hardly believe the sheer stupidity this shows as the son of a politician. why the fuck would he upload his sexual exploits to a porn site? his poor dad. also, bringing your lap top to be fixed without resetting first? then not picking it up? in fairness non of this is Biden seniors fault and at least now he can't be blackmailed with it any more. although it makes you wonder what other land mines his genius son has left around the place.
 

gaiusmarius

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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

You seem to think that Jeff Bezos has day to day control of either of those companies. He doesn't. Both are publicly held companies, owned by stockholders. Their functions don't overlap. The Post won't see a penny of the money the CIA allegedly spends at Amazon. One doesn't influence the other. Hell, Jeff also owns Whole Foods. Using your logic he should disclose what the government spends there on food? What about all his other companies? Close to fifty of them. Let's disclose what the government spends there too. That's gonna be alot of wasted newsprint explaining who owns what and how much of what.

Now let's talk about FOX news owner Rupert Maggot. That guy controls over 800 separate companies, one of which is FOX. I don't see any full disclosure over there either. Because it just isn't done. There would be no time for news, because it would take 45 minutes out of each hour to cover all the potential conflicts of interest.

All these companies have one thing in common, They must answer to their shareholders. Not one of them, all of them. The Post won't lose money so Amazon will make it. And that keeps them as honest as you can expect when you deal with the moneylenders.

your sadly under informed, burst your partisan information bubble some day. anyone thinking bezoz doesn't set the rules about whats not to be reported in his news paper asleep at the wheel. there is no unbiased main stream news outlets, they are extinct.
 
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