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Joe Biden Thread

h.h.

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The “Gateway Pundit”.

I wouldn’t wipe my ass with that rag. Of course you take it for fact as it supports your agenda.
 
GOT_BUD?

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gaiusmarius said:
i can hardly believe the sheer stupidity this shows as the son of a politician. why the fuck would he upload his sexual exploits to a porn site? his poor dad. also, bringing your lap top to be fixed without resetting first? then not picking it up? in fairness non of this is Biden seniors fault and at least now he can't be blackmailed with it any more. although it makes you wonder what other land mines his genius son has left around the place.
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Rumor floating around now is the whole laptop and dossier was the product of a fake intelligence firm and the author, Martin Aspen, doesn't actually exist.

Next up, the former business partner of Hunter Biden gets investigated about large sums of money being deposited into accounts in his name.
 
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GOT_BUD? said:
Rumor floating around now is the whole laptop and dossier was the product of a fake intelligence firm and the author, Martin Aspen, doesn't actually exist.

Next up, the former business partner of Hunter Biden gets investigated about large sums of money being deposited into accounts in his name.
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interesting, where did you hear about that? it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a Trump scheme to win. it is weird that the campaign of Biden didnt say right away that there is no lap top etc. not sure if i trust that rumour quite yet, but at this point it can only be a matter of time till we know either way.

the porn stuff is way less important then the dealings alleged with Ukrainian, Russian and Chinese companies. there is a whole trail of corporate records that should be easy to fact check.
 
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gaiusmarius said:
interesting, where did you hear about that?
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The author of the document, a self-identified Swiss security analyst named Martin Aspen, is a fabricated identity, according to analysis by disinformation researchers, who also concluded that Aspen's profile picture was created with an artificial intelligence face generator. The intelligence firm that Aspen lists as his previous employer said that no one by that name had ever worked for the company and that no one by that name lives in Switzerland, according to public records and social media searches.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/how-fake-persona-laid-groundwork-hunter-biden-conspiracy-deluge-n1245387

Do you have any aliases, gaiusmarius? ;)
 
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Klompen said:
I don't think you understand what a big deal a fatwah from the Ayatollah is to them. We've seen in their fight against ISIS that Iranians are not afraid to die for him, but we're supposed to believe that when Khomeini says that nuclear weapons are unholy and unislamic that people will just assume he's kidding. Developing nuclear weapons after issuing that Fatwah would get him attacked by his peers.

I mean, we're supposed to believe that Iran just has to have been fucked with for the last 80 years without stop, because they're such fanatical Islamic radicals that they will commit Jihad on America or whatever, but they're apparently not devout enough to listen to their highest cleric telling them things like this:
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i understand that a huge % do not give a FF about a fatwah if it gets in the way of their openly stated desire to wipe Israel from the map. are you familiar with "taqiyya", a tenet of Shia Islam, in which it is acceptable to lie about your intentions to others in order to succeed in your goal? Khameini could screw goats in public & be in no danger...
 
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gaiusmarius said:
interesting, where did you hear about that? it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a Trump scheme to win. it is weird that the campaign of Biden didnt say right away that there is no lap top etc. not sure if i trust that rumour quite yet, but at this point it can only be a matter of time till we know either way.

the porn stuff is way less important then the dealings alleged with Ukrainian, Russian and Chinese companies. there is a whole trail of corporate records that should be easy to fact check.
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Gaiusmarius you seem to have some strong opinions about American politics. I was wondering if you're familiar with Noam Chomsky and what is your opinion of him?
 
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armedoldhippy said:
i understand that a huge % do not give a FF about a fatwah if it gets in the way of their openly stated desire to wipe Israel from the map. are you familiar with "taqiyya", a tenet of Shia Islam, in which it is acceptable to lie about your intentions to others in order to succeed in your goal? Khameini could screw goats in public & be in no danger...
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- I found this VERY interesting - while trying to figure out WTF is going on in the middle east - the connection between the House of Saud, Zionism and Israel -

The House Of Saud: It’s Jewish Origin And Installation By The British Crown

The two exposés posted below in their entirety provide essential material regarding the true origin of the House of Saud, as well as vital background about the current monarchy ruling Saudi Arabia.

It is virtually impossible to understand the true nature of the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the USA, and between Saudi Arabia and Israel, without the historical information that follows.

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The photo above includes Chaim Weizmann, a zealous Zionist leader who was perhaps the first Israeli politician to actively promote the Greater Israel project.

*Chaim Azriel Weizmann (Hebrew: ???? ?????? ??????? Hayyim Azri’el Vaytsman, Russian: ???? ??????? Khaim Veytsman; 27 November 1874 – 9 November 1952) D.Sc, Sc.D, LL.D was a Zionist leader and Israeli statesman who served as President of the Zionist Organization and later as the first President of Israel.
(Source: Chaim Weizmann)

2002 IRAQI INTEL REPORTED WAHHABIS ARE OF JEWISH ORIGIN

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932. Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the “jihad” in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simultaneously use the immense wealth at their disposal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication. These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Peninsula, writing several works about the region and its history. Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab’s association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi’s followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab’s grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty-five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independently authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

https://www.timesheadline.com/middl...-installation-by-the-british-crown-42667.html
 
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I can't believe CNN actually had one of the best articles covering this, but hey, sometimes they do things right. Bezos is not just an investor in the Post. He's way more involved and so is Amazon. Who do you think hosts the Posts' website?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/16/media/jeff-bezos-donald-graham/index.html

Also, I refer you to this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-amazons-collaboration_b_4824854?

Amazon's trajectory into the CIA's spooky arms may be a bit more than just corporate eagerness to land a lucrative contract. In late 2010 -- amid intense public interest in documents that WikiLeaks was posting to illuminate U.S. actions overseas -- Amazon took a notable step. As the Guardian reported at the time, Amazon "pulled the plug on hosting the whistleblowing website in reaction to heavy political pressure."

It didn't take much for Amazon to cave. "The company announced it was cutting WikiLeaks off ... only 24 hours after being contacted by the staff of Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate's committee on homeland security," the Guardian noted.

In view of Amazon's eagerness to dump the WikiLeaks site at the behest of U.S. government officials, what else might the Amazon hierarchy be willing to do? Amazon maintains a humongous trove of detailed information about hundreds of millions of people. Are we to believe that the CIA and other intelligence agencies have no interest in Amazon's data?

Even at face value, Amazon's "Privacy Notice" has loopholes big enough to fly a drone through. It says: "We release account and other personal information when we believe release is appropriate to comply with the law; enforce or apply our Conditions of Use and other agreements; or protect the rights, property, or safety of Amazon.com, our users, or others."
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No worries though right? Bezos is super trustworthy and we don't have to worry he's a psychopath or anything.....

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/31/amazon-warehouse-wristband-tracking

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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

You seem to think that Jeff Bezos has day to day control of either of those companies. He doesn't. Both are publicly held companies, owned by stockholders. Their functions don't overlap. The Post won't see a penny of the money the CIA allegedly spends at Amazon. One doesn't influence the other. Hell, Jeff also owns Whole Foods. Using your logic he should disclose what the government spends there on food? What about all his other companies? Close to fifty of them. Let's disclose what the government spends there too. That's gonna be alot of wasted newsprint explaining who owns what and how much of what.

Now let's talk about FOX news owner Rupert Maggot. That guy controls over 800 separate companies, one of which is FOX. I don't see any full disclosure over there either. Because it just isn't done. There would be no time for news, because it would take 45 minutes out of each hour to cover all the potential conflicts of interest.

All these companies have one thing in common, They must answer to their shareholders. Not one of them, all of them. The Post won't lose money so Amazon will make it. And that keeps them as honest as you can expect when you deal with the moneylenders.
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armedoldhippy said:
i understand that a huge % do not give a FF about a fatwah if it gets in the way of their openly stated desire to wipe Israel from the map. are you familiar with "taqiyya", a tenet of Shia Islam, in which it is acceptable to lie about your intentions to others in order to succeed in your goal? Khameini could screw goats in public & be in no danger...
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Is it really bad to want to end a country founded by fascist Nazi collaborators? Look up the Haavara Agreement if you want to see how horrible Zionists really are. They laundered in the ballpark of 8 billion dollars by today's standards for the Nazis. In exchange, the families of all the richest and most "elite" Zionists were given passage from Europe and all the Nazi equipment they would need to conquer their new neighbors. Find a book by Edwin Black called "The Transfer Agreement". Its shocking to put it mildly. You really don't know what a bunch of mafiosos the Zionist leaders are until you read that book.

I do know the Islamic tenet you are talking about, its called Taqqiya. It would not make any sense in this context. Its a high cleric in his own country speaking to his own people for starters, and its not under immediate duress(absolutely required!), and most importantly it contains a official religious position being dictated to the followers(so even if Khomenei didn't believe it, his followers see it as a holy proclamation). Taqqiya is also not acceptable behavior during jihad or war according to Iranian culture. The notion that it applies to this situation is purely Western propaganda.

Just to be clear: I am not a fan of Islam. Its a regressive and overly-conservative creationist ideology; but if I had to pick a form of Islam to see be the standard version around the world it would easily be Shia Islam(though I'd pick fivers over twelvers). We're "friends" with the Saudi lunatics while we abuse the culture that has way more in common with us.
 
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GOT_BUD? said:
Rumor floating around now is the whole laptop and dossier was the product of a fake intelligence firm and the author, Martin Aspen, doesn't actually exist.

Next up, the former business partner of Hunter Biden gets investigated about large sums of money being deposited into accounts in his name.
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Not likely. ...For so many reasons. This is why they censor. Because it is proven in multiple ways. If people are informed, they can see that the Deep States attempts to cover this up are quite weak. Suicides are a comin...
 
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