howmany people here dont trust the vaccine or covid

[armedoldhippy]

I believe it’s wrong to force people to protect themselves, if they have no desire to protect themselves.

in your opinion, does the govt have the right and/or responsibility to prevent someone from endangering others in the name of their personal freedom? is it okay to start a brushfire on your property upwind of a neighbors house during a drought? being vaccinated helps protect a lot more people than just the individual getting the vaccine.

 

[armedoldhippy]

The ignore function works fine use it.

i wish. it keeps saying something about "unable to display this function. site has been alerted" day after day...

 

[armedoldhippy]

that said,i'm patient,and i'm positive you'll step over the line at some point....

and that, my friend, is what we called a "sucker bet" when i was young, back when the rocks were still soft...

 

[Amynamous]

in your opinion, does the govt have the right and/or responsibility to prevent someone from endangering others in the name of their personal freedom? is it okay to start a brushfire on your property upwind of a neighbors house during a drought? being vaccinated helps protect a lot more people than just the individual getting the vaccine.

From a public health perspective, i agree with what you’re saying. And SCOTUS has confirmed that opinion twice before.
But my own personal opinion is that forcing people to protect themselves(and others, by extension) via governmental proclamation when they don’t want to be protected opens up a legal can of worms that’s best avoided. Companies, such as hospitals, nursing homes and even restaurants should be able to proclaim mandates for their employees, with the result for the unvaxxed to lose their livelihood. Hospitals have been doing that for a very long time and no one has ever complained or fought it until now.
And like i mentioned earlier, the flip side of that should be the unvaxxed should have to pay their own way(cash only) for medical care, without relying on others to subsidize their poor and reckless decisions. Just my opinion.

 

[Hammerhead]

i wish. it keeps saying something about "unable to display this function. site has been alerted" day after day...

The box where the names are typed in is off. Many of the names on mine are not even inside that box. When I add a name I type it outside the bottom of the box..

 

[star crash]

i wish. it keeps saying something about "unable to display this function. site has been alerted" day after day...

You’re not alone the ignored function doesn’t work for me ever since we had the site upgrade despite what other people say it works for them good but it doesn’t work for everybody that’s for sure

 

[h.h.]

lol, yer dreamin' if you think we read all (or even most) of the SC BS!

The only way to get us to read ANY of it is to keep starting 1 topic after the other attracting the same posters sayin' the same tired old stuff over and over!

.......... but keep going, the traffic is good!

We’re in it together then. It’s all about the traffic. I thought it was about the weed. Or so someone said.

 

[weedobix]

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary - H. L, Mencken.


this is quite funny

 

[h.h.]

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary - H. L, Mencken.


this is quite funny

Must be. Somebody said it. That makes them right. At least you think they are. It’s all about clicks.

 

[Three Berries]

The ignore function works fine for me.

Will be holding classes in The Great Awakening thread if you want.

 

[CosmicGiggle]

We’re in it together then. It’s all about the traffic. I thought it was about the weed. Or so someone said.

...... wait, I'm confused, I don't recall weed being mentioned in the SC, no need to change the subject!

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

<rolls a spliff> - weed? - who said anything about weed? - c'mon now - own up -

<tokes and roll's eye's>

 

[armedoldhippy]

From a public health perspective, i agree with what you’re saying. And SCOTUS has confirmed that opinion twice before.
But my own personal opinion is that forcing people to protect themselves(and others, by extension) via governmental proclamation when they don’t want to be protected opens up a legal can of worms that’s best avoided. Companies, such as hospitals, nursing homes and even restaurants should be able to proclaim mandates for their employees, with the result for the unvaxxed to lose their livelihood. Hospitals have been doing that for a very long time and no one has ever complained or fought it until now.
And like i mentioned earlier, the flip side of that should be the unvaxxed should have to pay their own way(cash only) for medical care, without relying on others to subsidize their poor and reckless decisions. Just my opinion.

if they themselves were the only possible victims of their inaction, i would be out there demonstrating for their right to die...but, they're not the only ones their ignorance endangers, are they? like drunk drivers; if all they ever did was slam into trees/bridge abutments & kill themselves, i'd be all for it. thinning the herd of the weakest links...

 

[flylowgethigh]

Your jabs are your shield against covid. Leave me and my arm alone.

 

[BudToaster]

...... wait, I'm confused, I don't recall weed being mentioned in the SC, no need to change the subject!

THANK-YOU for herding the cats back on to the topic

 

[BudToaster]

even the EU is in the anti-vaxx category - they be saying "no more boosters" because it damages the immune system. but what do they know? they're just "them", eh?

 

[Microbeman]

Your jabs are your shield against covid. Leave me and my arm alone.

This is just for you flylow;

 

[Microbeman]

if they themselves were the only possible victims of their inaction, i would be out there demonstrating for their right to die...but, they're not the only ones their ignorance endangers, are they? like drunk drivers; if all they ever did was slam into trees/bridge abutments & kill themselves, i'd be all for it. thinning the herd of the weakest links...

This would be true if there was solid evidence the vaccines prevent the spread. I have yet to see this. Do you know of some? I can concur somewhat if the hospitals being overwhelmed by non-vaccinated is true.

 

[Hammerhead]

Cannabis has always been known to be an Antiviral.

 

[trichrider]

then post up the proof....i bet everyone wants to see if they could just smoke the virus out.
not that i'm disagreeing it being antiviral, but in the camp of believing it disrupts the virus from attaching to ACE2 receptors.
i'll show you mine....

Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants


Richard B van Breemen[SUP] 1 [/SUP], Ruth N Muchiri[SUP] 1 [/SUP], Timothy A Bates[SUP] 2 [/SUP], Jules B Weinstein[SUP] 2 [/SUP], Hans C Leier[SUP] 2 [/SUP], Scotland Farley[SUP] 2 [/SUP], Fikadu G Tafesse[SUP] 2 [/SUP]



Affiliations

• PMID: 35007072
• DOI: 10.1021/acs.jnatprod.1c00946

Abstract

As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19. Affinity selection-mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Cannabinoid acids from hemp (Cannabis sativa) were found to be allosteric as well as orthosteric ligands with micromolar affinity for the spike protein. In follow-up virus neutralization assays, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid prevented infection of human epithelial cells by a pseudovirus expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and prevented entry of live SARS-CoV-2 into cells. Importantly, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid were equally effective against the SARS-CoV-2 alpha variant B.1.1.7 and the beta variant B.1.351. Orally bioavailable and with a long history of safe human use, these cannabinoids, isolated or in hemp extracts, have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35007072/