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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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Nannymouse

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Okay, i tried searching the CDC for this info, directly. 'Wonder' would not let me in unless i 'agreed' to the terms, etc.

So, what i found was that the New England Journal of Medicine analyzed the CDC data and came to those conclusions. It looks legit to me, if you have found other info that refutes this, let me know. As far as i can tell, the CDC hasn't listed 2022 data for this on their 'accessible' type pages.
 

JKD

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If every US citizen had ready access to hand grenades, not only would there be no corresponding increase in grenade related deaths, but responsible grenade owners could then use their grenades to protect themselves & their fellow citizens.
 
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ISOMERO

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to me it is absurd for a State to promote or favor arms. also for protection. they should have acted differently but I understand that it is easier to talk to people's bellies than to educate them. violence is innate, it already exists, education must be built.
 

JKD

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It might just have something to do with the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution.

National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA)
Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA)
Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA)
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) (Supreme Court case)

Do these not implement restrictions, or potentially allow restrictions on some weapons in some situations?

Is not possible that more weapons could have restrictions placed on them by similar mechanisms?
 

armedoldhippy

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National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA)
Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA)
Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA)
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) (Supreme Court case)

Do these not implement restrictions, or potentially allow restrictions on some weapons in some situations?

Is not possible that more weapons could have restrictions placed on them by similar mechanisms?
i hate to tell you this, but the Supreme Court has been busy swatting down serious over-reach by the federal govt in regards to the 2nd Amendment lately. the ATF is getting its nose smacked regularly for going beyond what Congress set as their limits. the pistol brace rule is in trouble, large cap mag bans in trouble nationally, the 80% rule interpretation may get junked, and they may take a look at the "short barreled rifle" clusterfuck as well. over half of the US is now operating under "constitutional carry" rules, no permit required to carry a concealed handgun on you except in very limited circumstances where they post "no guns allowed" at the door. hell, my credit union/bank doesn't bother with it, nor do local pharmacies.
 

Three Berries

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National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA)
Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA)
Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA)
District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) (Supreme Court case)

Do these not implement restrictions, or potentially allow restrictions on some weapons in some situations?

Is not possible that more weapons could have restrictions placed on them by similar mechanisms?
Yes they put restrictions. Not necessary legal ones Constitutionally.

Shall not Infringe is what the Constitution says.
 

JKD

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Yes they put restrictions. Not necessary legal ones Constitutionally.

Shall not Infringe is what the Constitution says.
You know the 21st Amendment was to repeal the 18th. They’re not set in stone.

Are you able to give your own number to answer Hammerheads question?

I understand you strongly support the 2nd amendment, but I’d like to understand if there are limits to the strength of that support. How many dead American children would it take before you might personally consider whether gun controls could help? Obviously it’s more than 2400/year, but where is your cut off? Is it all of them, or somewhere in between that and 2400/year? Is it a specific number?

I am a HUGE supporter of the 3rd Amendment. After all these years it’s still every bit as relevant as the 2nd.
 
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audiohi

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Please form an orderly line so I can stab you all with this sharp stick..
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Three Berries

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You know the 21st Amendment was to repeal the 18th. They’re not set in stone.

Are you able to give your own number to answer Hammerheads question?

I understand you strongly support the 2nd amendment, but I’d like to understand if there are limits to the strength of that support. How many dead American children would it take before you might personally consider whether gun controls could help? Obviously it’s more than 2400/year, but where is your cut off? Is it all of them, or somewhere in between that and 2400/year? Is it a specific number?

I am a HUGE supporter of the 3rd Amendment. After all these years it’s still every bit as relevant as the 2nd.
It's not the guns that are the problem. It's crazy people. Put them in mental intuitions instead of glorifying their mental illness.

How many children die from abortion?
 

JKD

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It's not the guns that are the problem. It's crazy people. Put them in mental intuitions instead of glorifying their mental illness.

How many children die from abortion?
Sometimes they need to shoot a few kids before anyone starts thinking they’ve got a mental illness.

You didn’t give a number.

Protect the 3rd!!
 
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Dime

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As 3 berries said it's the pyschopaths not the guns. They will kill kids without guns too.The right to bear arms is the reason the US is the most free country in the world. Without it,the government has carte blanche,the founding fathers knew this.

“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.”
Mao Tse Tung
 
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