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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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JKD

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If you could get your crazy libs from shooting up the place the numbers would be a lot lower. Lets talk about the black on black crime in Chicago and the kids that get shot? Where they don't even bother to arrest you let along prosecute for crimes. Defund the police and let EMTs and social workers take care of the problem. LOL what a bunch of fools.

Latest stats for the year.

2023 Age of Victim

CohortKilledWounded
Kids (0-12)34
Teens (13-17)1067
Young Adults (18-35)75263
Middle Aged (36-54)3453
AARP (55+)315
Unknown-19
As of 4/1/23
Chicago Crime 2023


I agree, it would be great if firearms were more difficult to obtain.

What’s your number?

By introducing race and political belief into this discussion should I assume it depends on these things?

Protect the 3rd!!
 
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zachrockbadenof

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If you could get your crazy libs from shooting up the place the numbers would be a lot lower. Lets talk about the black on black crime in Chicago and the kids that get shot? Where they don't even bother to arrest you let along prosecute for crimes. Defund the police and let EMTs and social workers take care of the problem. LOL what a bunch of fools.

Latest stats for the year.

2023 Age of Victim

CohortKilledWounded
Kids (0-12)34
Teens (13-17)1067
Young Adults (18-35)75263
Middle Aged (36-54)3453
AARP (55+)315
Unknown-19
As of 4/1/23
Chicago Crime 2023

the killings in chicago don't matter.... its black kids, killing other black kids.... nobody gives a fuck...
 

sleazyB

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Muskets didn’t fire 950 rounds a minute

All guns kill. Semi auto AR .223 was specifically made for war to kill people. People are nuts to think their lives would be negatively impacted if they couldn't buy/own an AR. At the very least make it much harder to buy/own one. You can still buy a bolt action .223 rifle.
We will have to agree to disagree . Semi automatic weapons were around long before the AR platform. Also they are available in many chambers , so I'm not understanding why you keep bringing up .223/556
 

Hammerhead

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We will have to agree to disagree . Semi automatic weapons were around long before the AR platform. Also they are available in many chambers , so I'm not understanding why you keep bringing up .223/556

That has zero to do with what mentally unstable people buy to kill people. The vast majority buy Assult style firearms. Lots of people are confused about what the issue is and that's part of the problem.. You don't see people doing mass murder with shotguns, handguns, or bolt action rifles. I haven't look at the numbers but id guess all shootings where many kids were murdered involved AR style/.223 firearms.

Semi auto Asult-style firearms are the gun of choice to carry out mass murder. The most common caliber is .223. These calibers have deadly effects. The odds of surviving being shoot with .223 are minimal.
 
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sleazyB

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That has zero to do with what mentally unstable people buy to kill people. The vast majority buy Assult style firearms. Lots of people are confused about what the issue is and that's part of the problem.. You don't see people doing mass murder with shotguns, handguns, or bolt action rifles. I haven't look at the numbers but id guess all shootings where many kids were murdered involved AR style/.223 firearms.

Semi auto Asult-style firearms are the gun of choice to carry out mass murder. The most common caliber is .223. These calibers have deadly effects. The odds of surviving being shoot with .223 are minimal.
So you have admitted you haven't looked at the numbers but you know what firearms are being used. I guess we will have to except your gut feeling as fact .
 

Hammerhead

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So you have admitted you haven't looked at the numbers but you know what firearms are being used. I guess we will have to except your gut feeling as fact .
I just said that lol. I didn't have time to go looking. You are welcome to go do that yourself. Handguns use to be at the top for the gun type used. The last decade has changed to an assault style because they are designed to kill people quickly, in large numbers, and are easy to get.

Semi-automatic weapons are cheaper, more available, and more aggressively marketed since the 10-year Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in 2004, The weapons’ lethal efficiency and easy reloading appeal to mass shooters. In the past 10 years, mass public shootings involving assault weapons have resulted in average death tolls that are more than double the average death tolls for mass public shootings that did not involve AR style firearms. The AR-15, like its military version, is designed to kill people quickly and in large numbers, hence the term assault-style rifle. It has no valid recreational use.
 
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Frosty Nuggets

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India has a gun culture, you don't hear of mass shootings there.

The 2nd amendment says arms NOT rifles, pistols or shotguns, it means ALL arms, grenades, rocket launchers, tanks, helicopters, jets, battleships etc, how else are the people meant to stop a tyrannical government?
 

mean mr.mustard

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The GAU - 8 Avenger is a 30mm Gatling gun and can fit inside of a tractor trailer. Its fire rate is around 4000 rpm.
 

Hammerhead

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stopping a tyrannical government is not possible to accomplish in the 21st century.. That is 100% political in nature. One side of the political spectrum belives the other is tyrannical. Who decides what's tyrannical lol.
 

sleazyB

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I just said that lol. I didn't have time to go looking. You are welcome to go do that yourself. Ill add this.

Semi-automatic weapons are cheaper, more available, and more aggressively marketed since the 10-year Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired in 2004, The weapons’ lethal efficiency and easy reloading appeal to mass shooters. In the past 10 years, mass public shootings involving assault weapons have resulted in average death tolls that are more than double the average death tolls for mass public shootings that did not involve AR style firearms.
I understand exactly what you are saying but I don't believe in your idea for the solution. It's ok to disagree . I just feel like schools should be more heavily protected . We protect banks , jewelry , politicians , movie stars , with firearms . Maybe it's time we protect our schools a little bit better. There is billions of firearms in the us . Almost every single school shooter was on anti depressants and mood stabilizers. Maybe we should just ban those instead .
 

Hammerhead

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My generation never worried about being shot dead by a nut job at school. The solution is not to make school a prison. Not being able to own/buy these weapons has zero impact on your life. Having them sure has a massive impact on childrens lives.

This is 100% made in America.
 

sleazyB

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My generation never worried about being shot dead by a nut job at school. The solution is not to make school a prison. Not being able to own/buy these weapons has zero impact on your life. Having them sure has a massive impact on childrens lives.

This is 100% made in America.
So what has changed since your generation until now ? I'm sure guns were around .
 
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