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Gorilla Glue #4
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SHORYUKEN!
Storm shadow went for the jugular
Zarezhu
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Hey guys, hoping to get some insight from ye gorrilaheads.
I've had these gg4s under an 8bulb t5 for 30 days now, in 4" cups of canna coco. 2 weeks in, they were 12" tall. I topped them down to the bottom 4-6 nodes. Now they've grown back to 12" with multi heads.
I will be running 4kw, so roughly 15 plants per magnumxxxl hood.
I intend to transplant them today. I bought these pots.
http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/hydroponics/7x7-square-white-pot-9-tall-50-per-case/
At least I think its those, they may be the 6" x 6" tall pots. They're 1 gallon pots. I'm going to add 1-2" of hydroton on bottom, and leave 1-2" of space up top as well, possibly with hydroton on top. I will only put between a half gallon and .75 gallons of canna coco in the 1 gallon pot.
These plants have been under a t5 their whole life. After the transplant/topping today, they will go into a 4x4 tray with a 1000MH, for roughly 5-7 days and then FLIP. At flip I will spread them out around their 4 1000w hps trays.
I also intend to chop all the heads off today! I feel if I don't, with another week of veg under a 1kw mh, and 2 weeks stretching, they would get WAYYYY TOOOOO tall. Do you guys recommend I chop all heads down to their bottom 1-2 nodes?? (for 6-8 tops per plant, each plant having roughly 1 sq foot of space.
I also intend to multifeed DTW, 3-5x a day. Should I stick to only filling the pots up to half gallon, so they fill the pot with as much roots:coco as possible in their next 3 weeks of root growth? Or should I keep them and flower them in their 4" pots and an 8x a day multifeed?? Since theyre already so rootbound
I've had these gg4s under an 8bulb t5 for 30 days now, in 4" cups of canna coco. 2 weeks in, they were 12" tall. I topped them down to the bottom 4-6 nodes. Now they've grown back to 12" with multi heads.
I will be running 4kw, so roughly 15 plants per magnumxxxl hood.
I intend to transplant them today. I bought these pots.
http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/hydroponics/7x7-square-white-pot-9-tall-50-per-case/
At least I think its those, they may be the 6" x 6" tall pots. They're 1 gallon pots. I'm going to add 1-2" of hydroton on bottom, and leave 1-2" of space up top as well, possibly with hydroton on top. I will only put between a half gallon and .75 gallons of canna coco in the 1 gallon pot.
These plants have been under a t5 their whole life. After the transplant/topping today, they will go into a 4x4 tray with a 1000MH, for roughly 5-7 days and then FLIP. At flip I will spread them out around their 4 1000w hps trays.
I also intend to chop all the heads off today! I feel if I don't, with another week of veg under a 1kw mh, and 2 weeks stretching, they would get WAYYYY TOOOOO tall. Do you guys recommend I chop all heads down to their bottom 1-2 nodes?? (for 6-8 tops per plant, each plant having roughly 1 sq foot of space.
I also intend to multifeed DTW, 3-5x a day. Should I stick to only filling the pots up to half gallon, so they fill the pot with as much roots:coco as possible in their next 3 weeks of root growth? Or should I keep them and flower them in their 4" pots and an 8x a day multifeed?? Since theyre already so rootbound
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That would be an excellent analogy if the grower was an illegal immigrant brought across the border and forced to run a guerrilla grow. Otherwise comparing someone who chooses to grow an illegal plant to a rape victim is quite a stretch and innappropriate imo.
Zarezhu
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dude, how could you tell me to put all 60 plants into 3 gallon pots of canna coco, with only 1 more week of veg.
this is my first coco grow but I KNOW the pots are supposed to be filled with major rootage, otherwise there wouldn't be enough oxygen in the media with 3-5x daily feeding. It would be waterlogged.
Coco is supposed to use pots much smaller than traditional soil growing.
Sorry if I come off like an asshat, I'm just trying to make the right decision.
You got it Zarezhu coco multifeed ftw. Next time try 3 gals w less plants the glue tends to do very well when tree'd out
You would be surprised at the yield gained in transplanting into 3s even right befor flip. remember the plant grows 2 and glue almost 3 weeks after flip so 1 week befor into 3s =3 to 4 weeeks more root growth veg. Just my 2cents
That being said haha
no way id do it with 60
Shit i didnt even do it with the 18+ i just upotted to 2gal bags. Ran outa coco and was sooo much work. just gonna flip em in 2s coco will do it right.
That being said haha
no way id do it with 60
Shit i didnt even do it with the 18+ i just upotted to 2gal bags. Ran outa coco and was sooo much work. just gonna flip em in 2s coco will do it right.
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h is right. It's because glue vegges. So long in flower. Unlike anything I've ever grown
Zarezhu
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Lol, so I'm supposed to like every single answer that somebody on the internet gives me? And if I disagree, then I should stop asking questions?
You're right. Never ask questions. Learning is overrated.
I strongly doubt you're putting 16 glues per 4x4 in 3 gallons of 100% coco, 5x daily feeding DTW. If you are, I apologize again, and I'm glad that works for you. From what I've read in the last month, and I've read A LOT about 100% coco grows, putting all 16 plants per light into 3 gallons would be silly.
I'm only growing these plants for 4-7 heads a piece, no lateral branches wanted. Everything but the main colas will be pruned.
16 1 gallon pots, or even .8 gallon pots of 100% coco is a hell of a lot more than the 4" pots they're in right now, and they're doing GREAT being fed 1x a day in the 4".
I just cant see how I would feed 3-5x a day if I had 16 3 gallon coco pots per light, and the 3-5x daily feeding is paramount to success in coco.
@xxxstr8edgexxx - you think I should do 16 3 gallon pots of coco per light as well?
Mad Lab
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Looking good!
15 GG4's per light? That's crazy. When i do 9 I always for like over kill and i flower EARLY.
GG4 just goes too crazy for actually utilizing 15 plants per 4x4 tray or 5x5 area.
Good luck. Chop those plants up properly.
Mad Lab
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As for chopping to second node, I would say yes but only if its early on or you can chopp it down without losing alot of node sites to allow it to recover with a few main colas on it.
I top really early because of the way GG4 grows. It's hard to veg them long because they grow too fast. I normally flip when clones are only 2 weeks old after roots.
Your probably going to need 3 layers of trellis. If your canopy is uneven, the first two trellis nets will be the ones youll weave your colas through too get the ideal height.
I top really early because of the way GG4 grows. It's hard to veg them long because they grow too fast. I normally flip when clones are only 2 weeks old after roots.
Your probably going to need 3 layers of trellis. If your canopy is uneven, the first two trellis nets will be the ones youll weave your colas through too get the ideal height.
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no way i would ever run 16 GGs per 4x4 thats insane you are gonna have a ton of larf and some of the plants in the middle will get blocked out. i did tests on 9 and 12 per 4x4 and 9 worked really well. however now i am trying out only 4 per 4x4 with a longer veg and more training. no need for so many plants unless you are flowering straight out of the cloner.
Mad Lab
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If you feed right you'll be just fine. a 1 gallon coco pot is similar to a 6x6 rockwool block and I finish many rooms with ONLY those blocks. I use 9 gg4's per tray and (with gavita DE's) get around 2.5-3 units a light.
But your feeds need to be abundant because they are rootbound. You can always transplant and flip in a week if you want an extra gallon, but if not, your going to need to feed your small plants everyday, a gallon minimum each pot.
Don't play the dry the coco like soil game with those lilttle guys. With DTW that will be expensive but worth it.
your attitude sucks
I didnt say to grow them all out asshat, I said you should grow them in 3 gallon pots.
do it your way
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