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sp4z205

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Man you got nice little buds there already!!...miles ahead of mine. Like I said there will be differences with the seed compared to clones. I have ran a single dwc plant in my room. It was a easy grow because it was not so tight. You are going to need more veg time or start it earlier in the tent and let her fill out. I am thinking to fill a space like yours 1 plant from clone may need 50-60 days of veg growth with training, possibly more depending on how it goes.

Your led is nice and powerful. Mine is 640-660 watts max but I hardly ever go there. I love how your are keeping track of the little details. Reminds me of my early days when I would obsess over everything. You are showing some good skills here.

Nice job with the concentrate! Making them is good fun. I used to go through all kinds of processes to get concentrate. I was big into distillate and have all the gear to make it fairly pro style. If you look at my signature pic that is distillate I made. Lots to do and know though. It tickled my science bone a lot but very complicated. I have since simplified to rosin and diamonds. It is so easy to press some bubble or fresh buds and have a great product. I like it better than solvent style extracts now... Been playing around with making diamonds. Have 2 different jars going right now.

What are you using for nutes, please remind me. On track to a nice grow here!!

I wondered about that sig pic of yours haha - I makes carts out of distillate that a friend is able to source from someone in Cali

I have looked into doing SPD myself but won't tackle that until I have a few years of experience under my belt but I would love to make some of my own someday.

I'll have to look into diamonds, I personally have not had them myself but I've seen them and they look very yummy.

I'm running General Hydroponics line. Using Armor Si, CalMag, Micro, Gro, Bloom, and KoolBloom. After reading what you said about Jacks and some other testimonials I'm thinking about installing an RO system and using Jacks RO for my next run.
 

negative37dBA

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Nothing wrong at all with GH nutes. I like to drop the silica after my first or second water change out. I use it all through veg though. My main interest in switching to Jacks was cost. I am tired of making nutrient companies rich. The ability to customize the mixture is a plus. Using it in a concentrate is very easy and handy.
The SPD takes a bit of equipment to pull off correctly. A chiller, a vacuum pump$$, the glassware, a mantle and all the needed chemicals. Dry ice, acetone, pure alcohol and so on. Then you have to get the start material so that's a closed loop rig complete with double pumps, dewaxing column, gasses and scales. More dry ice and acetone used here as well as a vac oven to purge it. OR you can buy a rosin press and be done!! It all depends on what you like to do, making it is fun. I just do not like to take all that time and effort anymore...
Have a great run sir!
Peace, negative.
 

sp4z205

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Everything still looks beautiful. I just moved a few branches around to spread them some more.
How much longer until I can take a test cut??
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I joke, I know I've got a lot of weeks left but I can't wait to start tasting my efforts!


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sp4z205

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I can see where I had moved them over a square they have already re-positioned themselves to get the light better, so cool!!

All environmental factors have remained the same, I'm trying to be very diligent. Pics from Last night (9/16)

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negative37dBA

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Day 14 looking nice and developed. I am at day 21 and yours have more developed bud sites. The power of a seed grow! Loving the trich production already! Those purple petioles are such a distinct trait of the glue. Keep up the good work.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.
 

sp4z205

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Thank you DD and Negative!

I was wondering about that gorgeous purple color, so vibrant! I've also noticed that the girls have simply started dropping some of the older growth right off, I've picked up a few leaves off the ground at night when they wake up.

I can't wait to start my next grow and I am extremely tempted to buy a 5x5 that'll fit in my current area so I can expand into cloning with a separate veg/bloom tent.

I think I'll be patient and wait until I can buy a house and then REALLY focus on this fun little hobby of ours. I know the wife and I will be able to buy a house in the next couple of years as long as we are smart and careful about things. We're trying to save up so we can either afford to put 1/2 down or flat out purchase a house and only have to worry about yearly taxes.

Thanks for reading!
 

sp4z205

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Temps are remaining between 81-73 day/night
RH is relatively stable from 53-57 at day/night
pH is 6.1 at the bottom of the pots and 5.8 in the rez
I just raised the light (and angled it slightly) so that each canopy is ~12 inches away
They are getting ~39-45 DLI depending on location
VPD should be staying between about .9-1.2 based on the chart.


I noticed the lady on the bottom left has started to have some browning in the pistils (last photo)
Is this an indicator to stage of flower? I haven't seen much on the different flowering stages but I'm absolutely sure there is material out there.


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StickyBandit

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Making excellent progress there mate 👍 Are you feeding some plutonium :p
Looks pretty normal with the browning. In the next few weeks you will have to look for amber trichomes to see when it's ready I suppose :)
 

sp4z205

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Day 18 - I adjusted nutes to mid bloom for my GH line

Lowered Humidity in my area so it's about 53% at 79-81 degrees during the day and about 47% at 75-77 degrees during the night.
EC is 1.5 and pH is at 6.1 in the pots and 5.5 in the rez. I adjusted the netting a little bit to move it below some flower sites so they didn't grow into it.
While moving them.... holy crap.... my fingers got so sticky from the little bit of touching and smelly.... like woah....

My wife had a laugh because I ran up to her yelling "smell my fingers".

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Thank you for taking a look!
 

sp4z205

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Things are just chugging along, added another 10 gallons to the rez tonight so I think they may be drinking a little more right now.

Looking like those flowers are starting to stack nice.

ordered a cheap little $9 8x loupe, cant wait for that to come in so I can start taking some very pretty macro shots.

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Thank you for taking a look!
 

negative37dBA

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Looking well developed there. Glue is well known for being super reeky...the smell is everywhere. The 1 plant front right is quite a bit greener than the rest from what I see. Anything different with that one? Really want to keep them green for a while yet. Right now at day 18 there are really powering up and needing the nutes to be spot on. sounds like you have a good handle on the parameters.
Mine are at day 27 today. Smell has started to rise...couple got really outta control and are over 6.5 feet tall...haha. You have a nice even canopy...good job on that.
 

sp4z205

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Looking well developed there. Glue is well known for being super reeky...the smell is everywhere. The 1 plant front right is quite a bit greener than the rest from what I see. Anything different with that one? Really want to keep them green for a while yet. Right now at day 18 there are really powering up and needing the nutes to be spot on. sounds like you have a good handle on the parameters.
Mine are at day 27 today. Smell has started to rise...couple got really outta control and are over 6.5 feet tall...haha. You have a nice even canopy...good job on that.

I saw your pic, they are tallllllll - do you do any supercropping with your glue?

The color difference has been like that for a few weeks started like 6 or 7 posts ago - it happened after I, for some reason, thought it would be a good idea to move my Humidifier into the tent (right next to that girl). She was getting blasted with the extra humidity even though I had a fan directly blowing it around.

If you go back about 6 or 7 posts you'll see how she had droopy leaves and then once I moved the humidifier out of the tent everything perked up - I'm thinking I had the humidity a little on the high side early in development and the one getting blasted was able to bounce back.

Other than that - there is literally ZERO difference between any of the 4, same rez - same buffer/wash on the hydroton. Everything is identical.

Thank you for reading!!
 

negative37dBA

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Yes supper cropping I have done and in fact did some this am. Bent about 6 of the tallest heads over. I slowly squeeze and roll the area I want to bend till it gets nice a soft. Then I can bend it over no snapping or breaking at all. They just keep going like nothing has happened...haha. Plants are tough. Helped out with the height issues tho. Another cool thing is that by having 2 drivers on 2 dimmers I can dim half my garden at a time. Just so happens the split is front to back. I have the front at near full bore while the back half that is much closer to the light is dimmed more.
Keep up the great work. Looking great there.
Have a great day. Peace, negative.
 

sp4z205

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I opened some additional vents on the tent.

New growth on the ones that were light is darker, I'm thinking I wasn't getting enough fresh air in? The greenest one was getting the first blast of fresh air from the main vent I had open.

Topped off the rez last night - everything is looking amazing still.

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sp4z205

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I raised the lights a few inches tonight - still sitting at about 40/45DLI between canopies. For these lights that's at 12".

80 @ 55 day
72 @ 50 night

1.4 EC
6.1 pH

I did not do ANY lollipopping for my first time.

I've seen some insane stretching on undergrowth into the light there to fill out the canopy, they don't feel larfy (as I understand the term) right now. Even at this early flower stage they feel like fairly dense little flowers.

New growth on the ones that were light green is very dark again - I think I didn't have enough fresh air (basement) flowing in. I wish I could get a CO2 meter, maybe next grow.

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Thank you for taking a look!!




I'm off to watch venture bros!
 

negative37dBA

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Very nice looking...are we about day 22 or so? I forget. Are these from Tony Greens Tortured beans? They look at this point that they will not need 11 weeks like my clone only cut. Nice and chunky looking there. Are you getting trichomes on the stalks of the plant?...I am this run. I don't remember seeing it before in this quantity...liking that.
On those lower buds tightening up. I have found that as long as they are getting light they will harden up. I had buds that were 28" away from the lights looking prime.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.
 
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