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Coronavirus.. outlook

St. Phatty

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Brand new califonia health care law..According to this mail ftom the state of California..you must provide an healh policy by april 30 2020

If you dont have health insurance these fines apply..

Individual...695.00

family... 1390.00.

At least now we know who runs the country.

Punishing people for not consuming a product that kills as many people as Tobacco Cigarettes.


One would think some Attorneys would challenge that.
 

armedoldhippy

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At least now we know who runs the country.

Punishing people for not consuming a product that kills as many people as Tobacco Cigarettes.


One would think some Attorneys would challenge that.

i'm confused. having insurance kills people? some attorneys will argue against the law of gravity...
 
M

moose eater

Maybe because of insurance constraints or prohibitions re. treatments, etc., and the cost of maintaining what has become a substandard source of supposed medical care.

These days insurance companies more and more tell the Docs what treatment your insurance will or can provide, because the insurance companies' bean counters now regard their bottom line as more important than your health.
 

djav59

Member
Da in case you haven't noticed nobody's in charge they are too busy stealing.
homas Modly’s Trip To Aircraft Carrier To Call Capt. Brett Crozier ‘Stupid’ Cost $243,000

Hes is worthy .
 

djav59

Member
There will be no full count of how many actual cases there are or were as the numbers would blow the charts away most will be classified as something else.
Take note of all the companies profiting from this but offering employees nothing or a pittance there are many .
The ones among us that have free will and thought had better get their shit together out of the ashes greatness may arise .

The rest of the idiots better start acting like half human not all monkey.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Worldometer

COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: April 10, 2020, 16:12 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Incubation - Age - Symptoms - News
Coronavirus Cases:
1,639,763
view by country
Deaths:
100,154
Recovered:
369,017
ACTIVE CASES
1,170,592
Currently Infected Patients
1,121,290 (96%)
in Mild Condition

49,302 (4%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
469,171
Cases which had an outcome:
369,017 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

100,154 (21%)
Deaths
 

St. Phatty

Active member
There will be no full count of how many actual cases there are or were as the numbers would blow the charts away most will be classified as something else.

it will be hard to hide the deaths, but you might have to wait a year for the statistics.

every US state keeps them. will have to wait a while to compare 2019 deaths to 2020 deaths.
 

shaggyballs

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it will be hard to hide the deaths, but you might have to wait a year for the statistics.

every US state keeps them. will have to wait a while to compare 2019 deaths to 2020 deaths.

Did-ya see this?

According to all the smart people here , they(Govt./Propoganda Ministry) are NOT misinforming John & Joan Q Public


SENATOR AND DR. REVEAL HHS DOCUMENT THAT COACHED HIM ON HOW TO OVER COUNT COVID-19 CASES — WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT

Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota physician, and Republican state senator said he received a 7-page document coaching him to fill out death certificates with a COVID-19 diagnosis without a lab test to confirm the patient actually had the virus.

https://dailyheadlines.com/huge-senator-and-dr-reveal-hhs-document-that-coached-him-on-how-to-over-count-covid-19-cases-with-copy-of-document/?fbclid=IwAR3BBa9AVBEddBZD8IhXYHoh2wsllcbvgTjToFlj9_Px7hiNGckpI1M3sKY

Doctors Can Place COVID-19 on Death Certificates Without Confirmed Test Results, Minnesota Senator Says

https://theminnesotasun.com/2020/04/09/doctors-can-place-covid-19-on-death-certificates-without-confirmed-test-results-minnesota-senator-says/?fbclid=IwAR0kilKEmuVPn55Bnkjsj0utUisrpWgMp2THoMyJfQsp-I65AfnY2IL_L6Y


They're not misinforming John & Joan Q Public ?

:tiphat:
 
M

moose eater

From Salon.com

re. FEMA, hospitals, states, and the reportedly seized PPE

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https://www.salon.com/2020/04/09/ho...nt-seizesorders-of-covid-19-medical-supplies/


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House probes role of Jared Kushner as federal government seizes orders of COVID-19 medical supplies

Committees demand answers after officials in multiple states report the feds seized their supplies without warning

Igor Derysh

April 9, 2020 10:55PM (UTC)

Two House committees have called on the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to turn over documents related to reports that the agency is seizing orders of coronavirus medical supplies from states, as well as the involvement of President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, in overseeing those efforts.

The chairs of the House Homeland Security and Oversight committees called on FEMA to turn over documents responding to a "troubling report" from the Health and Human Services Department's inspector general detailing "severe shortages" of emergency equipment reported by hospitals around the country.

"The report confirms that — in the richest nation in the world — hospitals are lacking masks, gowns and other basic materials," Homeland Security Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said in a letter to FEMA Administrator Peter Gaynor.

The committees also requested a response to media reports that that agency was "redirecting" medical supplies ordered by states and hospitals. Officials in at least a half-dozen states have reported that FEMA hijacked supplies sent to states without informing them.

"After encouraging the states to take care of themselves, the Trump administration now appears to be positioning FEMA to engage in the redirection of private supply chains — but the agency's opaque and evolving processes are clearly not meeting the needs that communities have right now for [personal protective equipment] and medical supplies," the letter said.

The committees requested documents to understand how FEMA is operating its "Airbridge" program, in which the administration pays to fly in supplies from China for private companies to sell to states and
hospitals in the U.S., and to "understand the role of Jared Kushner in managing FEMA's operational efforts to obtain and distribute" supplies.

Thompson and Maloney said their committees "do no understand the role" that Kushner is playing in FEMA's efforts.

"It appears that Mr. Kushner is unclear about basic facts regarding the purpose of the Strategic National Stockpile," the letter said, noting that Kushner "erroneously" described it as "our stockpile" that is "not supposed to be the state stockpiles that they then use."

The chairs were also "troubled" by reports that Kushner's actions could be "circumventing protocols that ensure all states' requests are handled appropriately."

"We are particularly troubled that Mr. Kushner's work may even involve 'directing FEMA and HHS officials to prioritize specific requests from people who are able to get Kushner on the phone,'" they wrote.

That appeared to be a reference to Kushner's comment that he called up New York's top health official and delivered critical supplies after getting a "call" from Trump saying "he was hearing from his friends" that hospitals in the city were in short supply.

Though Gaynor and Navy Rear Adm. John Polowczyk, the logistics chief for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are overseeing the supply chain, Kushner has assembled a so-called "shadow" task force filled with start-up entrepreneurs who have "issued orders to health agencies" and sparked "resentment" among federal officials, according to The New York Times.

One senior official described Kushner's team as a "frat party" that "descended from a UFO and invaded the federal government," while others criticized the group's use of private email and free teleconferencing services to discuss sensitive policy issues.

As Kushner's elevated role draws scrutiny from lawmakers, his wife Ivanka Trump is planning to take on a big role in the federal effort to rescue small businesses impacted by the coronavirus, Axios reports.

A White House official told CNN that "during recent weeks, Ivanka has has been meeting on the phone with members of Congress and CEOs of the country's major financial institutions in the run up to and the launch of the [Paycheck Protection Program]."

Ivanka Trump, who has been working part-time at the White House while her kids are home from school, participated in a Tuesday conference call with small businesses alongside her father.

"She created over 15 million jobs," the president said, repeating a completely false stat he has repeatedly cited in the past while referring to his daughter's efforts on the White House "Pledge to America's Workers" initiative.

"Ivanka didn't create 15M jobs. As of the March data, pre-shutdown, there'd been fewer than 6.5M jobs added during this presidency. Rather, companies have pledged 15.8M 'education and training opportunities,' many for existing employees," CNN fact-check Daniel Dale explained on Twitter. "Also, it's not clear how many of the 'education and training opportunities' the White House 'Pledge to America's Workers' initiative had anything to do with prompting and how many the companies would have created anyway but are simply disclosing to the White House to get credit."

"To put this claim in perspective, there are (or, at least, were) between 150-160 million jobs in the entire United States," Vox's Ian Millhiser added. "Trump is claiming that his daughter created 10 percent of ALL THE JOBS."

Igor Derysh

Igor Derysh is a staff writer at Salon. His work has also appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Boston Herald and Baltimore Sun.
 
M

moose eater

https://wolfstreet.com/2020/04/09/q...ve-balance-sheet-money-printing-and-bailouts/

""Since March 11, the Fed created $1.77 trillion and handed it to Wall Street either as loans or to purchase financial instruments. The sole purpose of this was to inflate asset prices and bail out asset holders. It’s apparently against the law in the US for the Fed to allow the wealthy to lose their shirts, or something. The crumbs offered to small businesses or the real economy have not materialized yet. Those are future projects, if they ever materialize.

If the Fed had sent that $1.77 Trillion to the 130 million households in the US, each household would have received $13,600. But no, this was helicopter money exclusively for Wall Street and for asset holders.""
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
How this album cover is relevant in this day...

Pink floyd.


picture.php
 

Dr. Purpur

Custom Haze crosses
Veteran
https://wolfstreet.com/2020/04/09/q...ve-balance-sheet-money-printing-and-bailouts/

""Since March 11, the Fed created $1.77 trillion and handed it to Wall Street either as loans or to purchase financial instruments. The sole purpose of this was to inflate asset prices and bail out asset holders. It’s apparently against the law in the US for the Fed to allow the wealthy to lose their shirts, or something. The crumbs offered to small businesses or the real economy have not materialized yet. Those are future projects, if they ever materialize.

If the Fed had sent that $1.77 Trillion to the 130 million households in the US, each household would have received $13,600. But no, this was helicopter money exclusively for Wall Street and for asset holders.""


That kind of budgeting doesn't work at my house. Sooner or later the US dollar value will drop till we have to burn it in the streets like Germans did long ago.

Buy and hold physical silver and gold. If you can find any.
Buy quantities of non perishable foods first.

Now that we have seen how fast shit can hit the fan after only a virus that's killed 100,00 world wide. Just think what a dollar dropping to no value over night could do...…..
 
M

moose eater

That kind of budgeting doesn't work at my house. Sooner or later the US dollar value will drop till we have to burn it in the streets like Germans did long ago.

Buy and hold physical silver and gold. If you can find any.
Buy quantities of non perishable foods first.

Now that we have seen how fast shit can hit the fan after only a virus that's killed 100,00 world wide. Just think what a dollar dropping to no value over night could do...…..

I know, right??

When I take away from my kids, and give to the loan sharks, my kids start looking hard at the weaponry in the house; not to mention plotting against the loan sharks.

Just goes to show; there's no crisis too big or small, for the Oligarchy to take advantage of, as though they can spend their $Billions in Hell.

Fortunately, much of my angst and anger, or even mere irritation, is temporarily quelled by chicken tamales in red sauce, and a new wireless modem. So for now I'll forgo changing out the older magazines for newer/'rested' ones, and loading weapons. Beside, Wall St. and that damned bull statue are, like, nearly 4,000 miles away. And the Canada border's closed to 'non-essential travel'. That, and the fact that I'm not sure Canadian or US Customs would agree with me, that it's 'essential' that we take out a couple hundred Oligarchs & their hand puppets in office. :biggrin:
 

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