Coronavirus.. outlook

[Medfinder]

Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word.



WASHINGTON — Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.
Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

 

[St. Phatty]

I do believe my early posts mentioned this over 3 weeks ago.
(All mammalian life forms will be infected.)

If it transfers from this tiger its big trouble.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-zoo-idUSKBN21O2Y2

I'm surprised people question the animal to human, human to animal, and animal to human transmission.

Given where it came from and how easily it spreads. Of course you can give to your cat, and it can give it to another cat, etc.

So far it looks like an animal virus, that came from a butcher market.

OR, a mistake from a Chinese lab - I don't think they were trying to kill their own people.

lab tech's handling viruses near as infectious as MEASLES.

one mistake = big problem

that someone may have made a mistake at a Chinese biotech lab is not exactly going out on a limb. it might be derided as a "conspiracy theory" in the media, but there's no conspiracy involved.


I think they will find that people's pets are spreading the virus.

Specifically their cats, because of the way they go out and night and hang out with all the other cats, who then go home to their human keepers.

A very natural way to spread a virus.

When Italy quarantined in the 14th century during the Black Plague, they did not allow ship passenger's pets to visit shore to mix with the landlubber's pets.

(of course the passenger's pets would all have been eaten, but anyway.)


Actually, given how infectious it is, and given that cats have none of the problems with obesity, lung function, blood pressure, and diabetes, that make humans a 'target' - cats are natural spreaders of the virus.

Twice recently I've taken small rodents away from the cat before he had a chance to kill them - after they were in his mouth.

So if he was infected, the rodents would be infected.

I wouldn't be surprised if this virus is already in North America, or if it ends up spreading among the general animal population - wolves etc.

My guess is animals like Coyotes and Wolves have already had to deal with similar viruses, because they eat almost anything they can catch.


I hear vets say, "oh no we have to have a study to answer that question", but i would say they are just displaying a little timidity.

 

[moose eater]

Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word.



WASHINGTON — Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.
Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week. The Federal Emergency Management Agency is not publicly reporting the acquisitions, despite the outlay of millions of dollars of taxpayer money, nor has the administration detailed how it decides which supplies to seize and where to reroute them.

Officials who’ve had materials seized also say they’ve received no guidance from the government about how or if they will get access to the supplies they ordered. That has stoked concerns about how public funds are being spent and whether the Trump administration is fairly distributing scarce medical supplies.

I'd read that elsewhere, and proposed that if it's true, perhaps local armed security details at airports and hospitals are an option.. The Feds pulling a trump card doesn't legitimize theft in any way, especially at a time like this.

Assuming they're not being seized for purpose of reallocation to states/hospitals in greater need. But allegedly the Feds/Kushner stated this is for the Feds, not the states.

Hypotheses range from the provisions being redistributed to for-profit outlets associated with the primary family in question, to be redistributed at a mark-up, to the supplies being reallocated or re-distributed to the rumored and reported build-up of sequestered (tested and found negative) troops, to the previously referenced possibility of them being shared with states or hospitals with less resources.

If it IS a matter of states' and hospitals' resources they've paid for being stolen and having ANYTHING less than legitimate purposes or outcomes, then I say.. It's time for a notable response they can't misinterpret...

 

[Jellyfish]

I'm surprised people question the animal to human, human to animal, and animal to human transmission.

Given where it came from and how easily it spreads. Of course you can give to your cat, and it can give it to another cat, etc.

So far it looks like an animal virus, that came from a butcher market.

OR, a mistake from a Chinese lab - I don't think they were trying to kill their own people.

lab tech's handling viruses near as infectious as MEASLES.

one mistake = big problem

that someone may have made a mistake at a Chinese biotech lab is not exactly going out on a limb. it might be derided as a "conspiracy theory" in the media, but there's no conspiracy involved.


I think they will find that people's pets are spreading the virus.

Specifically their cats, because of the way they go out and night and hang out with all the other cats, who then go home to their human keepers.

A very natural way to spread a virus.

When Italy quarantined in the 14th century during the Black Plague, they did not allow ship passenger's pets to visit shore to mix with the landlubber's pets.

(of course the passenger's pets would all have been eaten, but anyway.)


Actually, given how infectious it is, and given that cats have none of the problems with obesity, lung function, blood pressure, and diabetes, that make humans a 'target' - cats are natural spreaders of the virus.

Twice recently I've taken small rodents away from the cat before he had a chance to kill them - after they were in his mouth.

So if he was infected, the rodents would be infected.

I wouldn't be surprised if this virus is already in North America, or if it ends up spreading among the general animal population - wolves etc.

My guess is animals like Coyotes and Wolves have already had to deal with similar viruses, because they eat almost anything they can catch.


I hear vets say, "oh no we have to have a study to answer that question", but i would say they are just displaying a little timidity.

I think your theory has got a lot of holes in it. For one, most people don't let their cats out for the night to prowl, like they did in grampaw's day. Anyway, it's too paranoid for me.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Speaking of pets. Someone sent their attack pig right at the poor Pakistani people. It was a unilateral attack by tRump! Shame on him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=uH8owcMHc34&feature=emb_logo

 

[audiohi]

Coronavirus in New York came mainly from Europe, studies show.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/us/coronavirus-live-updates.html

New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that it was brought to the region mainly by travelers from Europe, not Asia.

“The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

A separate team at N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine came to strikingly similar conclusions, despite studying a different group of cases. Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March.

 

[Medfinder]

I'd read that elsewhere, and proposed that if it's true, perhaps local armed security details at airports and hospitals are an option.. The Feds pulling a trump card doesn't legitimize theft in any way, especially at a time like this.

Assuming they're not being seized for purpose of reallocation to states/hospitals in greater need. But allegedly the Feds/Kushner stated this is for the Feds, not the states.

Hypotheses range from the provisions being redistributed to for-profit outlets associated with the primary family in question, to be redistributed at a mark-up, to the supplies being reallocated or re-distributed to the rumored and reported build-up of sequestered (tested and found negative) troops, to the previously referenced possibility of them being shared with states or hospitals with less resources.

If it IS a matter of states' and hospitals' resources they've paid for being stolen and having ANYTHING less than legitimate purposes or outcomes, then I say.. It's time for a notable response they can't misinterpret...

I wonder if the 900 plus oversea military bases need masks gloves suits etc..etc..

 

[Dr. Purpur]

I think your theory has got a lot of holes in it. For one, most people don't let their cats out for the night to prowl, like they did in grampaw's day. Anyway, it's too paranoid for me.

I don't know Bro

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I think your theory has got a lot of holes in it. For one, most people don't let their cats out for the night to prowl, like they did in grampaw's day. Anyway, it's too paranoid for me.

I let my cats out every night. I mean... someone has to feed the fishers and coyotes.

 

[Swamp Thang]

Speaking of pets. Someone sent their attack pig right at the poor Pakistani people.

Yes indeed. Fear of the attack pig is the beginning of wisdom. On a serious note, some of my closest friends would best be characterized as attack pigs, though I doubt whether they would be amused by the label.

 

[ahortator]

Sadly I have not this in English

https://youtu.be/ut63jL-TTAI

 

[shaggyballs]

Sadly I have not this in English

https://youtu.be/ut63jL-TTAI

Quick summary?

 

[Medfinder]

ast updated: April 09, 2020, 15:32 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Incubation - Age - Symptoms - News
Coronavirus Cases:
1,541,538
view by country
Deaths:
90,086
Recovered:
342,272
ACTIVE CASES
1,109,180
Currently Infected Patients
1,060,671 (96%)
in Mild Condition

48,509 (4%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
432,358
Cases which had an outcome:
342,272 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

90,086 (21%)
Deaths

 

[ahortator]

Quick summary?

Very bad news about New York in the next weeks.

If you click the little gear on the right you can choose automatic subtitles in English.

He is a Spanish doctor. He was aware about what was going to happen here since late January or early February. But everybody ignored him.

Today we have reached more than 15,000 dead here.

 

[Medfinder]

Record 16.6 million have sought U.S. jobless aid amid coronavirus outbreak

With a startling 6.6 million people seeking jobless benefits last week, the United States has reached a grim landmark: Roughly one in 10 workers have lost their jobs in just the past three weeks.

The figures collectively constitute the largest and fastest string of job losses in records dating to 1948. They paint a picture of a job market that is quickly unraveling as businesses have shut down across the country because of the coronavirus outbreak. More than 20 million American may lose jobs this month.

ll told, in the past three weeks, 16.6 million Americans have filed for unemployment aid. The surge of jobless claims has overwhelmed state unemployment offices around the country. And still more job cuts are expected. The unemployment rate could hit 15% when the April employment report is released in early May.

A nation of normally free-spending shoppers and travelers is mainly hunkered down at home, bringing entire gears of the economy to a near-halt. Non-grocery retail business plunged 97% in the last week of March compared with a year earlier, according to Morgan Stanley. The number of airline passengers screened by the Transportation Security Administration has plunged 95% from with a year ago. U.S. hotel revenue has tumbled 80%.

The government-mandated business shutdowns that are meant to defeat the virus have never brought the U.S. to such a sudden and violent standstill. For that reason, economists are struggling to assess the duration and severity of the likely damage.

“We’re just throwing out our textbooks,” said Beth Ann Bovino, chief U.S. economist at S&P Global Ratings.

The Penn Wharton Budget Model, created at the University of Pennsylvania’s business school, projects that the U.S. economy will shrink at an astonishing 30% annual rate in the April-June quarter — even including government’s new $2.2 trillion relief measure, the largest federal aid package in history by far. That would be the largest quarterly economic plunge since World War II.

 

[Medfinder]

5 days..u.s. mail... ivermectin...

 

[shaggyballs]

Very bad news about New York in the next weeks.

If you click the little gear on the right you can choose automatic subtitles in English.

He is a Spanish doctor. He was aware about what was going to happen here since late January or early February. But everybody ignored him.

Today we have reached more than 15,000 dead here.

Thank you for the bit of hand holding there.
Michigan too.
That is where I am.

Strange too is....no lines for testing north of 8 mile.(see emeinem)
South of 8 mile hundreds of cars wait to be tested.

I wonder why it is so different?
Well no I don't.

 

[Medfinder]

How a discovery that brought us Viagra could help those battling the coronavirus

Its discovery gave rise to a treatment that snatches thousands of “blue babies” — newborns starved of oxygen by a heart defect — from the jaws of death every year. Later, research into the gas’s knack for relaxing blood vessels led to the development of the world’s best-known little blue pill — the erectile dysfunction drug Viagra.


In 1992, the journal Science named nitric oxide “molecule of the year.” And in 1998, University of California-Los Angeles pharmacologist Louis J. Ignarro shared a Nobel Prize in medicine for uncovering nitric oxide’s role as a “signaling molecule in the cardiovascular system.”

 

[moose eater]

My health insurance company sent me an email stating that through October, 2020, no co-pay, deductible, etc., etc., whether in-patient, out-patient, testing, treatment, or even if out of network, for ANY AND ALL services involving COVID-19.

When the evil Count hands you Willy Wonka's Golden Ticket, it gives one cause to pause and ask, slowly, "Huuuuuuh?"

Then the $Trillions in the CARE package came to mind, and I thought,"Oooooohhhh, now I get it..."

 

[Medfinder]

Brand new califonia health care law..According to this mail ftom the state of California..you must provide an healh policy by april 30 2020

If you dont have health insurance these fines apply..

Individual...695.00

family... 1390.00.