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Shooters
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I've built the new trellis (on the right) to house one of the DP tester seeds out in my larger Greenhouse, the other trellis (on the left) is for Dubi's PCK x Kali China. Last year I did a Zamaldelica there that ended up being huge but not able to finish.
Last year Zamaldelica:
Cheers and thanks again for letting me test your DP!!
Last year Zamaldelica:
Cheers and thanks again for letting me test your DP!!
Magnificent! Really, truly beautiful!
Thanks pal. She's a looker alright. Plenty more pretty ladies to look forward in the future!
Just WOW at that Zamdelica! That thing is fucking huge! You've clearly got a very green thumb. I can't wait to see what Afropips DP is capable of in your hands. I hope you'll have the time to finish it. Id estimate around 3 months for most ladies. Possibly a bit longer or a bit shorter with some other plants.
Good news on the seeds. They have arrived at their destination, and Old Pink has been given a list of testers to contact. I dont know how long that process will take. He's got his hands full with getting Seedbay relisted ATM, as it appears a bot has purchased literally everything off the website, with obv no intentions to pay, so now he must relist it all..Ugh..Apparently this isn't the first time its occurred too.
GNTSA x Afropip DP Photo Update
GNTSA x Afropip DP Photo Update
We've covered our two other DPxThai hybrids, but we've been forgetting about one. Ive not updated on her in 50 days, so she's definitely developed quite a bit since you last saw her. Right now she's around 13-14 weeks flowering. I had thought she was further ahead than the other two girls by 2 weeks, but now Im believing it was the opposite. I still think she needs a little bit more time. I believe the seed-plant was taken to 125 days, but this lady Id like to get to 100 Days, and then harvest time!
She's been in the harvest closet for a couple of days to provide a source of humidity to the other two DPxThai hybrids that are drying. Works like a charm at keeping humidity near 60%, without needing to use extra equipment or electricity. A lil warmer than Id like in there though. Typically 72-75F. I prefer drying temp to be in the low to mid 60's for stinkier buds. If your buds ever come out not as stinky as you'd like, try to lower drying temps and you'll probably see an improvement.
**I just moved the harvested plants and Stinky Girl into my large veg tent which is currently not being used. I just moved all my Shit females over to the flower room 3 days ago. It stays cooler in the tent than the closet, so hopefully this will improve the drying conditions.
Seeded, I never got around to letting you know what she smelled like, so Ill take care of that now. She is RANK! Pungent, putrid, and FOUL! A mix of rotten-meat, B.O., fuel type smells is what she is all about. There is nothing sweet or nice about how she smells. And you know what, she's my favorite smelling of them all!
Neither parent smelled like this lady did, so its a shocker. An intriguing terp profile came out of this ThaixDP pairing. I can only imagine what other terp profiles are waiting to be found in the many seeds Ive got to explore.
Lets get some photos of this pretty lady up. Ill give her another 4-5 days before the final chop, but Ill be saving enough to attempt a reveg with her. 2nd time flowering, and no intersex problems popped up again. Seems worth keeping around for awhile.
Lets get to some photos of this nice gal now.
This is one of my fav buds on her. About the size of a golfball. Nugs are tight and compact on this one compared to her two step-sisters. Doesn't hurt that the bud is taking on purple tones, and the attached fan leaf is beautiful.
Ill be following up with some more photos of this lady, so keep an eye out!
GNTSA x Afropip DP Photo Update
We've covered our two other DPxThai hybrids, but we've been forgetting about one. Ive not updated on her in 50 days, so she's definitely developed quite a bit since you last saw her. Right now she's around 13-14 weeks flowering. I had thought she was further ahead than the other two girls by 2 weeks, but now Im believing it was the opposite. I still think she needs a little bit more time. I believe the seed-plant was taken to 125 days, but this lady Id like to get to 100 Days, and then harvest time!
She's been in the harvest closet for a couple of days to provide a source of humidity to the other two DPxThai hybrids that are drying. Works like a charm at keeping humidity near 60%, without needing to use extra equipment or electricity. A lil warmer than Id like in there though. Typically 72-75F. I prefer drying temp to be in the low to mid 60's for stinkier buds. If your buds ever come out not as stinky as you'd like, try to lower drying temps and you'll probably see an improvement.
**I just moved the harvested plants and Stinky Girl into my large veg tent which is currently not being used. I just moved all my Shit females over to the flower room 3 days ago. It stays cooler in the tent than the closet, so hopefully this will improve the drying conditions.
Seeded, I never got around to letting you know what she smelled like, so Ill take care of that now. She is RANK! Pungent, putrid, and FOUL! A mix of rotten-meat, B.O., fuel type smells is what she is all about. There is nothing sweet or nice about how she smells. And you know what, she's my favorite smelling of them all!
Neither parent smelled like this lady did, so its a shocker. An intriguing terp profile came out of this ThaixDP pairing. I can only imagine what other terp profiles are waiting to be found in the many seeds Ive got to explore.
Lets get some photos of this pretty lady up. Ill give her another 4-5 days before the final chop, but Ill be saving enough to attempt a reveg with her. 2nd time flowering, and no intersex problems popped up again. Seems worth keeping around for awhile.
Lets get to some photos of this nice gal now.
This is one of my fav buds on her. About the size of a golfball. Nugs are tight and compact on this one compared to her two step-sisters. Doesn't hurt that the bud is taking on purple tones, and the attached fan leaf is beautiful.
Ill be following up with some more photos of this lady, so keep an eye out!
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Pics Continued
Pics Continued
I love me a good looking fan leaf, so I couldn't leave this picture out. If it were Winter right now more fan leaves would be more colorful, but Im pretty happy with the colors even though temps are 70F+ during lights off.
I love when the fan leaves turn purple with just a touch of green left. It makes for a striking photo.
I got my old crappy tripod out and set it up. I had it in my mind, if I have an expensive camera, I must use an expensive tripod. Well my tripod aint shit. Its cheap, bought at big lots years ago, but it did its job for this photo. Ill be using it more often. Im tired of struggling with hand-held shots.
Pics Continued
I love me a good looking fan leaf, so I couldn't leave this picture out. If it were Winter right now more fan leaves would be more colorful, but Im pretty happy with the colors even though temps are 70F+ during lights off.
I love when the fan leaves turn purple with just a touch of green left. It makes for a striking photo.
I got my old crappy tripod out and set it up. I had it in my mind, if I have an expensive camera, I must use an expensive tripod. Well my tripod aint shit. Its cheap, bought at big lots years ago, but it did its job for this photo. Ill be using it more often. Im tired of struggling with hand-held shots.
And this is the end of the picture show! How I do love the very last shot.
Green calyx next to a purple calyx.
Talk about resin gland coverage/density!
Green calyx next to a purple calyx.
Talk about resin gland coverage/density!
gorilla ganja
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Some great pics coming from you Dave. Your camera skills are improving with every shot.
I'm amazed that there's room for roots with all those bamboo stakes in those small pots.I guess it's a good stress test for them.
Good luck to all the testers. Looking forward to see what this plant can do in different grow rooms with different growers at the helm. Really excited to see it grow outdoors.
Peace GG
I'm amazed that there's room for roots with all those bamboo stakes in those small pots.I guess it's a good stress test for them.
Good luck to all the testers. Looking forward to see what this plant can do in different grow rooms with different growers at the helm. Really excited to see it grow outdoors.
Peace GG
seeded
Active member
Nice bamboo you've got growing there. I really like how you've companion planted cannabis with it 
In all seriousness though she's absolutely stunning and while the smells you've described coming from her aren't typically the kind I go for I know they're the type that force you to acquire a taste for them. She looks and sounds amazing so I can't wait to see your harvest shots and smoke report on her.
If you want to lose a lot more time to picture editing I highly recommend downloading zerene stacker as one play with extending the depth of field in your macros and you'll be hooked. The only downside is the prices they charge for a legitimate version of the program that's actually limited using a stupid pricing structure and while torrents and registration codes I found online were worthless with a little googlefu you can find a student registration file which will have all the basic functions covered until 2025
In all seriousness though she's absolutely stunning and while the smells you've described coming from her aren't typically the kind I go for I know they're the type that force you to acquire a taste for them. She looks and sounds amazing so I can't wait to see your harvest shots and smoke report on her.
If you want to lose a lot more time to picture editing I highly recommend downloading zerene stacker as one play with extending the depth of field in your macros and you'll be hooked. The only downside is the prices they charge for a legitimate version of the program that's actually limited using a stupid pricing structure and while torrents and registration codes I found online were worthless with a little googlefu you can find a student registration file which will have all the basic functions covered until 2025
Thanks GG. The tripod helped me immensely with the shots. No more hand-held ones for me.
That was only 15 stakes in a 3 gallon container
. I usually dont need that many stakes, but she produced so many tops I had no choice. What a terrible problem..lulz. These ladies dont bat an eye when I pierce the rootballs with stakes. They're strong tough ladies that dont give a damn!Im excited for the Durban Poison testers too. Id love to see what others can do with these beans and see how the outdoor plants look. I hope Old Pink can get them to their hands quickly..
Nice bamboo you've got growing there. I really like how you've companion planted cannabis with it
In all seriousness though she's absolutely stunning and while the smells you've described coming from her aren't typically the kind I go for I know they're the type that force you to acquire a taste for them. She looks and sounds amazing so I can't wait to see your harvest shots and smoke report on her.
If you want to lose a lot more time to picture editing I highly recommend downloading zerene stacker as one play with extending the depth of field in your macros and you'll be hooked. The only downside is the prices they charge for a legitimate version of the program that's actually limited using a stupid pricing structure and while torrents and registration codes I found online were worthless with a little googlefu you can find a student registration file which will have all the basic functions covered until 2025
Thanks for the good laugh Seeded. I hear the cannabis will make the bamboo even more potent when grown next to it!
Its a shame you're not into that terp profile. Its not for everyone, but it provides the STINK factor for sure. Its like a sweet foul rose to me, but to others they might just gag when they sniff it. Im ok with that.
Thanks for the info on stacker. Ive never used any software like that before. Truth is I dont even own a macro lens yet. I get those "macro" shots by cropping a section from another photo. It does a great job at zooming in significantly to where we can see individual resin glands.The trick is to zoom in on the larger pic and find a nice clear closeup, then zoom back out, and crop that section you located.
I wonder what would happen if I cropped a true macro shot..Ill have to try that out when I get a macro lens someday. Maybe you could try it out Seeded? You seem to enjoy playing with photo editing software as much as I do.
tempes~tos
Active member
Welcome Tempes. Thanks for taking the time to explore the thread and for coming out of your lurking. Im glad you've found it worth your time.
It requires tending to them every-day no matter if I feel like it or not! Ive introduced growing to some other people, and I hear "its hard-work." even when they're caring for one plant..lol. Im caring for around 40 plants atm, and I dont feel its enough lulz.. Although I absolutely hate transplanting so frequently for so many plants. My only bane!
Stay tuned for more great pics in the future pal!
I hear you on that! I currently tend to 5 beautiful ladies, and they take up about 1-2 hours MINIMUM every day.
They definitely like to be cared for and loved. I am learning a lot from you and the other OGs over here
seeded
Active member
Thanks for the good laugh Seeded. I hear the cannabis will make the bamboo even more potent when grown next to it!
Its a shame you're not into that terp profile. Its not for everyone, but it provides the STINK factor for sure. Its like a sweet foul rose to me, but to others they might just gag when they sniff it. Im ok with that.
Thanks for the info on stacker. Ive never used any software like that before. Truth is I dont even own a macro lens yet. I get those "macro" shots by cropping a section from another photo. It does a great job at zooming in significantly to where we can see individual resin glands.The trick is to zoom in on the larger pic and find a nice clear closeup, then zoom back out, and crop that section you located.
I wonder what would happen if I cropped a true macro shot..Ill have to try that out when I get a macro lens someday. Maybe you could try it out Seeded? You seem to enjoy playing with photo editing software as much as I do.
I've had my fair share of foul smelling strains and can really appreciate them from time to time but I do prefer the sweeter and fruiter types for sure.
I too crop my pictures to zoom in but there's no substitute for a macro lens with close up work. I've got a 70-300mm lens for example that says it does macro shots but it only does half size and from a mile away which makes it impossible to get a clear shot. I've bought reversing rings, adapters to connect two lenses together, extension tubes and magnifying lens adapters to try and use physics to cheat a better picture and they're all a waste of money for close up work compared to the dedicated macro lens. Honestly that cropped pic of yours was about as good as I managed with my other lenses but with the macro lens, taking a ton of pictures, editing them all and later stacking them into a single picture I can get pics like this which look amazing but I still get mistakes like the stacking artifact on the far right side.
The second pic is a 100% cropped section from upper middle just to the left of where the bit of stem is coming down the flower and that's only with a 1:1 macro lens. Canon make a 5:1 macro lens that would make it 5x bigger though it costs $1000+ to buy. You can get much cheaper ones on ebay, especially if you are ok with second hand ones at auction, but even a brand new one like mine will only set you back $300. That is a huge expense but when you factor in your new photo editing hobby that'll now consume all your free time it'll quickly earn it's keep
Hi Dave
It was very nice to read through your thread and see your experiences with these sativa plants.
The look of your durban plants from seed with the huge fat fan leaves made me think that these seeds were from a mislabeled batch and it really did look a lot like PCK. The durbans types that I have grown and seen were all thin leaf plants similar to your thai stick and they definitely can go purple but its temp related. I'm very interested what the mother / father looked like for that DP afropips. Maybe a S1 would tell us more. The black / purple color from the cobs looks very similar to some brick weed here. The structure of the Durbans also looks indica influenced. I can see some characteristics of the Durbans I know in the type of trichomes, those pointy standup tall ones. The smells of the ones I know can be citrus / lemon / anise / carrot. I haven't tried any south african plants that ever smelled or tasted berry flavor so I suspect that part comes from what ever was introduced to make them look so beefy. The original durban poison was not a landrace plant but rather a poly hybrid of local sativas. It couldn't have been very genetically stable if this was the case and many seed banks made a skunk hybrid to try and tame it.
African herbman found some decent plants of what I would call a real durban poison from wrapped pencil sticks, grew them out (used to post here on IC), sent some to tropical seeds co. They have been growing a Durban line for many years now in Spain. This is the 100% sativa looking plant. Goes purple/black on some pheno. Very electric do-something active high.
It was very nice to read through your thread and see your experiences with these sativa plants.
The look of your durban plants from seed with the huge fat fan leaves made me think that these seeds were from a mislabeled batch and it really did look a lot like PCK. The durbans types that I have grown and seen were all thin leaf plants similar to your thai stick and they definitely can go purple but its temp related. I'm very interested what the mother / father looked like for that DP afropips. Maybe a S1 would tell us more. The black / purple color from the cobs looks very similar to some brick weed here. The structure of the Durbans also looks indica influenced. I can see some characteristics of the Durbans I know in the type of trichomes, those pointy standup tall ones. The smells of the ones I know can be citrus / lemon / anise / carrot. I haven't tried any south african plants that ever smelled or tasted berry flavor so I suspect that part comes from what ever was introduced to make them look so beefy. The original durban poison was not a landrace plant but rather a poly hybrid of local sativas. It couldn't have been very genetically stable if this was the case and many seed banks made a skunk hybrid to try and tame it.
African herbman found some decent plants of what I would call a real durban poison from wrapped pencil sticks, grew them out (used to post here on IC), sent some to tropical seeds co. They have been growing a Durban line for many years now in Spain. This is the 100% sativa looking plant. Goes purple/black on some pheno. Very electric do-something active high.
I hear you on that! I currently tend to 5 beautiful ladies, and they take up about 1-2 hours MINIMUM every day.
They definitely like to be cared for and loved. I am learning a lot from you and the other OGs over here
They must be beautiful after spending that much time with them each day. Ive seen the results of plants that are neglected..it aint pretty, so you're doing the right thing.
Im glad you've taken something away from this thread. Its not all about pretty plants here
I've had my fair share of foul smelling strains and can really appreciate them from time to time but I do prefer the sweeter and fruiter types for sure.
I too crop my pictures to zoom in but there's no substitute for a macro lens with close up work. I've got a 70-300mm lens for example that says it does macro shots but it only does half size and from a mile away which makes it impossible to get a clear shot. I've bought reversing rings, adapters to connect two lenses together, extension tubes and magnifying lens adapters to try and use physics to cheat a better picture and they're all a waste of money for close up work compared to the dedicated macro lens. Honestly that cropped pic of yours was about as good as I managed with my other lenses but with the macro lens, taking a ton of pictures, editing them all and later stacking them into a single picture I can get pics like this which look amazing but I still get mistakes like the stacking artifact on the far right side.
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The second pic is a 100% cropped section from upper middle just to the left of where the bit of stem is coming down the flower and that's only with a 1:1 macro lens. Canon make a 5:1 macro lens that would make it 5x bigger though it costs $1000+ to buy. You can get much cheaper ones on ebay, especially if you are ok with second hand ones at auction, but even a brand new one like mine will only set you back $300. That is a huge expense but when you factor in your new photo editing hobby that'll now consume all your free time it'll quickly earn it's keep
If you like sweet and fruity, but an occasional hot garbage smelling plant, Mr. Nice Shit is a good option for you. I still have fond memories of those terp profiles. I can't wait to enjoy them again in a few months. I need to get a photo update of the Mr. Nice Shit soon. Got a few nice looking ones to share, and a couple not so nice looking ones. I make mistakes sometimes too!
You've gone all out on your camera equipment/setup. Thanks for the feedback on what works and what doesn't. Im definitely going to start off with a Sony Macro lens that runs about $300 after taxes. The one Id really want would cost me 1.5K. Just like you said, the good ones are expensive as fuck.
Welcome to the thread Oldbootz. Its a pleasure to have you. Thanks for contributing
I too have wondered if there is some Skunk in this Afropip DP line too. The sweet/berry scents definitely remind me alot of Mr. Nice Shit or any Skunk for that matter. The chunkier leaves and chunky buds on some of these ladies give pause for concern.
I dont think its related to PCK though, but they do look similar. I bought these seeds at least 6 months before PCK was introduced. Ive thought this DP looks alot like Cherry Pie too, but trying to determine what a strain has in it by looks alone is too speculative. Im going to look into getting some samples to Phylos Bioscience for genetic testing. Ill share the results here when that day comes, and we'll finally know whats really in there.
I hope it wont have any Skunk in it, but if it does, at least I wont have to start work on an Early Durban line of Mr. Nice Shit x Afropip Durban Poison. IME adding more Skunk to a cross beyond 50% isn't going to make it better. At least thats what I learned when I crossed Mr. Nice Shit to Sams HazeSkunk. Great looking buds, but not as powerful as Sams HazeSkunk.
A Phylos sample would be cool to see, then everyone will be able to see even if they didn't come across this thread.
Here are some of the pics from tropicalseedsco of their durban for reference:
Durban Poison'70s is a sativa strain from South Africa and one of the rarest pure strains in the world. It’s well known for being the strain used by the warriors of the Zulu tribes and appear in great amount of current best hybrids. It has remained unchanged since the 70's by a small group of South African local growers until we received it a decade ago. Since then, it has been used in hybrids like Durbakistan (Durban x Pakistan) or Durban Punch (Durban x Ciskei) but had never been marketed in pure form. We are currently working to offer this strain in the near future. But as we know the long waits are hard, for that reason we would like to share with you the first steps of our work where we have already found the qualities that have made it famous worldwide !
Strain: Durban Poison’70s
Strain Type: 100% Sativa
Type: Regular, male - female
Hybrid: Pure sativa from South Africa
Flowering times: 80-90 days
Yield: Average
Bouquet: Old school african sativa and fresh mint
Effect: Instant energetic & uplifting high
Developed by: local growers (SA), aeritos (SP) & Charles D. (SP)
Here are some of the pics from tropicalseedsco of their durban for reference:
Durban Poison'70s is a sativa strain from South Africa and one of the rarest pure strains in the world. It’s well known for being the strain used by the warriors of the Zulu tribes and appear in great amount of current best hybrids. It has remained unchanged since the 70's by a small group of South African local growers until we received it a decade ago. Since then, it has been used in hybrids like Durbakistan (Durban x Pakistan) or Durban Punch (Durban x Ciskei) but had never been marketed in pure form. We are currently working to offer this strain in the near future. But as we know the long waits are hard, for that reason we would like to share with you the first steps of our work where we have already found the qualities that have made it famous worldwide !
Strain: Durban Poison’70s
Strain Type: 100% Sativa
Type: Regular, male - female
Hybrid: Pure sativa from South Africa
Flowering times: 80-90 days
Yield: Average
Bouquet: Old school african sativa and fresh mint
Effect: Instant energetic & uplifting high
Developed by: local growers (SA), aeritos (SP) & Charles D. (SP)
I did a little research on Afropips Durban, and found many posts from different sites I wont mention here... Anyways, Ive found several ppl, posts between 2008-2012ish, and a lot of posts were talking about how it was a short internode, beefy, purple line. Another poster, who seemed like they knew their stuff, was talking about DP, and reminiscing over the "sqaut, wide leaved, head ringer".
Point of my post is not saying anything about the genetics in Afros DP, just that its not without precedence for this line to have these traits. I love talking and reading stuff like this, and find this convo incredibly interesting, but I know nothing of Durban Poison personally. And that I am ready for testers! Got the spot for the vegging plants ready, and by the time I have cuts ready for flower, Ill fill my tent with only DP...
Point of my post is not saying anything about the genetics in Afros DP, just that its not without precedence for this line to have these traits. I love talking and reading stuff like this, and find this convo incredibly interesting, but I know nothing of Durban Poison personally. And that I am ready for testers! Got the spot for the vegging plants ready, and by the time I have cuts ready for flower, Ill fill my tent with only DP...
Ive done some more reading on Phylos and seen more reports, and Im not exactly thinking its gonna be fool proof. 2 Problems Ive seen so far is that the Name Game has made it near impossible to tell what the original variety is. Meaning they've gotten so many samples of all the big names out there, Cookies, Kush(whatever), Skunk, NL, etc etc that show little relation to each other.. How do you tell which is the original? You cant.
Ive also seen 3 reports of 79 original Skunk(3 different plants), that showed no immediate relatives to the varieties we've read are in Skunk#1, and Only distant relatives in the phylos galaxy.
I think I still want to go through with it just for curiosity's sake. Check out the galaxy and explore the Durban Poison's already sent in. You'll find it intriguing.
I did a little research on Afropips Durban, and found many posts from different sites I wont mention here... Anyways, Ive found several ppl, posts between 2008-2012ish, and a lot of posts were talking about how it was a short internode, beefy, purple line. Another poster, who seemed like they knew their stuff, was talking about DP, and reminiscing over the "sqaut, wide leaved, head ringer".
Point of my post is not saying anything about the genetics in Afros DP, just that its not without precedence for this line to have these traits. I love talking and reading stuff like this, and find this convo incredibly interesting, but I know nothing of Durban Poison personally. And that I am ready for testers! Got the spot for the vegging plants ready, and by the time I have cuts ready for flower, Ill fill my tent with only DP...
Thanks for doing some more digging around for me and sharing the results here. I was able to dig into some german forums and found a guy saying in 2009, that the only pure sat Afroman had was Malawi Gold, but he offered no evidence to back up his claim. Im not likely to believe bold statements without anything to back i up.
I did find one post of an old member here who stated his Afropips DP(pre 2009), had longer thinner sativa like leaves, with airy buds. He was an outdoor grower, and he said it was rainy the entire season. Maybe the weather affected his bud structure. Im not well versed in the outdoors, so take what I say with a grain of salt. It would have been more in line with the pics Oldbootz posted up above.
To all the testers, Ive heard it can take upwards of 3 months for tester seeds to go from the Bay to testers. Has Oldpink contacted anyone here regarding safe addies?
ReikoX
Knight of the BlackSvn
Not yet, but 3 months isn't that long compared to some of the long flowering sativas (NLD) that you grow
