Click here for Afropip Durban Poison, and GN Thai Stick or don't. I dont care.

[Shooters]

Nope, no contact here either, are you saying we shouldn't hold outdoor spots since it could be months yet?

 

[Dave Coulier]

Not yet, but 3 months isn't that long compared to some of the long flowering sativas (NLD) that you grow

For me 3 months is like a short nap, but for these folks wanting to grow out some DP NOW it'd feel like a lifetime. I hope they dont have to wait that long, but Im not known for my optimism..

Nope, no contact here either, are you saying we shouldn't hold outdoor spots since it could be months yet?

I wouldn't hold space open for the Durban Seeds, as I dont know how long they will take to get to you guys from the Bay. I hope quickly, but I dont want someone holding up space for weeks, or even months waiting on these seeds. Utilize your space as best you can now. Im in no rush to see tester results from you all. Im a patient man, and can wait.

Maybe the testers should all PM Oldpink with their safe addie as a reminder. Maybe we can light a fire under their asses if we annoy him enough. That or we get banned..hehe.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Auto-topping Durban Poison

Auto-topping Durban Poison

Hey gang, I wanted to share a couple pics of an interesting Durban Poison seedling. This is my new auto-topping variety! The plant does it for you!

The plant has two sets of 'first' leaves. With no growing point at the top. Luckily the side shoots are developing fine. The other 4 Durban Poison seedlings are all doing excellent. Really short compact plants too compared to the GoldxDiesel, and Ace Outdoor Mix plants. Ill get pics soon up I hope. Ive got some C.GoldxDiesel pics on my camera to prepare too.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Durban Poison I-b Update

Durban Poison I-b Update

Its been a long time since we saw this little one. The last time we saw her, she was an itty bitty thing. She started off as a mutant that I thought would never grow after almost 2 weeks, but a miracle happened and she began to develop normally..
Her whorled nature went away very quickly in seedling stage, but leafs are still abnormal in other ways. You'll see the leafs further down below. She also developed two tops without me doing any training, or topping, which is a nice bonus for all her weird nature.

Here is the litte girl maybe 10 days past the previous picture. She's developing into what I thought would be a normal healthy seedling at this stage. She fooled me..

These fan leaves look pretty normal and healthy looking.

Follow up coming up shortly.

 

[Dave Coulier]

And then

And then

I get shit like this. WTF happened to these leaves..I just hope the cuttings I took will develop normally in the future once they root. This lady will soon be dusted up with pollen from DP-C male. I used his pollen to make this lady. Failed miserably with making seeds with the original DP-I mom. Only got 2 seeds out of the whole plant, and I accidentally smoked one..... So im invested in this plant.

Why not throw a flower pic in there too.

 

[Dave Coulier]

 

[RoostaPhish]

kinda looks like to much K, or a possible ph problem. There are only a few nutrient issues that cause that kind of canoeing.

 

[Shooters]

For me 3 months is like a short nap, but for these folks wanting to grow out some DP NOW it'd feel like a lifetime. I hope they dont have to wait that long, but Im not known for my optimism..



I wouldn't hold space open for the Durban Seeds, as I dont know how long they will take to get to you guys from the Bay. I hope quickly, but I dont want someone holding up space for weeks, or even months waiting on these seeds. Utilize your space as best you can now. Im in no rush to see tester results from you all. Im a patient man, and can wait.

Maybe the testers should all PM Oldpink with their safe addie as a reminder. Maybe we can light a fire under their asses if we annoy him enough. That or we get banned..hehe.

Still going to wait some first, as I was looking to send Old Pink a PM I ran across this on Seedbay test grow sub forum:

Heya all.

This is for all of you that have been testing, currently testing and hope to be a future tester. I just want to explain a few things. Testers are put out there by up and coming breeders and established breeders for a reason. This is to have their new wares documented thoroughly by a range of different growers with different grow styles. The cost of these testers and getting them to members has been covered by the breeders and by seedbay. It goes to say that when you are chosen to do a test grow that you are availble to start it ASAP on receipt of the beans and on ICMag. The number of test grows that are documented compared to the number of test beans that have been sent out has been in decline and recently has come to light that some deem it okay to do test reports on other forums. This is not acceptable as far as I am concerned.

Between ourselves and the breeders a lot of time and expense goes into sending out these testers and if there are not sufficient reports or reports go elsewhere then something has to change. I fully understand that there are many that honour their position to do tests. I also understand that there are many that just want free beans. So its time to start reigning in a bit. I will now have to document each member and what they get whilst checking up on proof of grows. Then it will be a matter of members that do not honour their position being struck off from future free test grow beans.

Test grows are done for the benefit of the breeder and the community. For those of you that have been consistent with your tests thank you very much for your time and efforts.

Cheers

I did send in my safe addie as well.

 

[thejact55]

I have not been contacted either, but am in no rush, I have no room right now. Let me know how it goes shooter.

 

[oldbootz]

Very strange looking mutant Dave, quite cool as a novelty. I wonder if a % of its seeds will do similar things. Then we know its genetic and not environmental.

 

[Ph-patrol]

Still going to wait some first, as I was looking to send Old Pink a PM I ran across this on Seedbay test grow sub forum:




I did send in my safe addie as well.

Clarence has a good point.Testers need to follow through contractually with their test as agreed upon.
Getting testers out in a certain window of time should be part of that same agreement for obvious reasons.
Testers should feel honored for being chosen but those seeds are not free because there is a ton more pressure and labor involved with the test......Fun labor.
The Icmag is filled with ditched grows....It's shameful.

 

[Dave Coulier]

kinda looks like to much K, or a possible ph problem. There are only a few nutrient issues that cause that kind of canoeing.

I too was considering nutritional, or maybe environmental issues, but no other plants in the garden exhibit any traits like this weird one. I need to get a suction lysimeter inserted into her rootball, so I can take some measurements and see if there is anything related to nutrition.

Im not worried about pH though. I used to be that guy who always pH'd his nutrition solution, etc, but I gave that up a couple of years ago. Ive still been growing some very healthy looking ladies without fretting about media pH. Now when I use Silicon supplements, I do pH that because the ph of the solution is quite high.
Although, I do believe the calcined clays at the volume % I use does help buffer pH to some extent giving me less concerns regarding pH.

This lady started off as a mutie, so Im not shocked there are still hold-over problems, but it would be wise to look into other areas as you suggested to be safe.

Still going to wait some first, as I was looking to send Old Pink a PM I ran across this on Seedbay test grow sub forum:

I did send in my safe addie as well.

Sadly Clarence is out of the picture here. He said he was sick of the shit literally and doesn't want to deal with it anymore. He has a goodbye thread in the seedbay forum I think. I feel sorry for Oldpink trying to run the whole thing seemingly by himself.

Ill just have to do the followups with those that get the beans and try to encourage them to share the results.

I have not been contacted either, but am in no rush, I have no room right now. Let me know how it goes shooter.

Im glad you're garden is all stocked up right now. Id hate for someone to solely wait on these beans before starting something. Make the best space of your gardens now, and enjoy the Durbans when you get spaces open.

Very strange looking mutant Dave, quite cool as a novelty. I wonder if a % of its seeds will do similar things. Then we know its genetic and not environmental.

Id prefer none of the seedlings of this lady do weird things in the future, but we've saw the auto-topping Durban P, so its quite possibly we may see some other oddities in the future.

Id much prefer it be environmental or nutrition related. We'll get it all sussed out eventually.

Clarence has a good point.Testers need to follow through contractually with their test as agreed upon.
Getting testers out in a certain window of time should be part of that same agreement for obvious reasons.
Testers should feel honored for being chosen but those seeds are not free because there is a ton more pressure and labor involved with the test......Fun labor.
The Icmag is filled with ditched grows....It's shameful.

So true Patrol, so true. So many ditched grows whether its a Test Grow, or just a regular Grow Journal. Most people just dont follow through to the end, and some dont even start the tester beans! I think the people chosen in this testers group will be different though! I thought 10 people would be a good number to ensure at least a few people follow through. Id love to see everyone start and finish their testers though.

Who knows it could all be for naught though. Seedbay has been on the decline for some time now, and alot of the big name breeders dont even list stock on there anymore. You rarely see any private breeders or members from ICMAG on there either now a days, which is quite sad. I remember back in the day, there were thousands of listings from so many different breeders. Some well-known, some fledgling breeders trying to make a name for themselves. Its a real shame.

These testers could do their part, but will there even be a Seedbay in the future to list anything I want to offer to you all??

Either way, Im glad to get testers in so others can experience Afropips Durban Poison too. Make sure to make your own seeds once you get these beans! Plants dont last forever, and you'll want your own backup seeds I promise you.

 

[baduy]

For me 3 months is like a short nap, but for these folks wanting to grow out some DP NOW it'd feel like a lifetime. I hope they dont have to wait that long, but Im not known for my optimism..



I wouldn't hold space open for the Durban Seeds, as I dont know how long they will take to get to you guys from the Bay. I hope quickly, but I dont want someone holding up space for weeks, or even months waiting on these seeds. Utilize your space as best you can now. Im in no rush to see tester results from you all. Im a patient man, and can wait.

Maybe the testers should all PM Oldpink with their safe addie as a reminder. Maybe we can light a fire under their asses if we annoy him enough. That or we get banned..hehe.

Good to know. I'll PM Oldpink and I just opened the fridge to search for my CBG Durban seeds to soak,if I get some good news from the postman soon enough that will make a nice side by side grow and if not, hey I'll figure something to do with the hole.
Curious to see how this mutant will turn, those diformities make me think of a malicious micro organism developping on young shoots.

 

[Dirt Life]

Yeah, with everything going on @ the bay, I figured it'd be a while, possibly never (hope not). I'm a patient man though, and have no problem waiting... You know that old saying, with the good things and the waiting... And hells yeah Ill be making seed! Big Bertha has convinced me that a Laos/Durban cross is in order, plus a (Hz/Sk)/Durban would be awesome. Probably just cross DP with everything I got!

 

[Dr.King]

Yeah, with everything going on @ the bay, I figured it'd be a while, possibly never (hope not). I'm a patient man though, and have no problem waiting... You know that old saying, with the good things and the waiting... And hells yeah Ill be making seed! Big Bertha has convinced me that a Laos/Durban cross is in order, plus a (Hz/Sk)/Durban would be awesome. Probably just cross DP with everything I got!

I'm feeling the same way man. A beautiful deep purple DP cross with everything, first gotta be Purple Haze. That Laos/Durban sounds fire.

Sucks bay might be going down but the site will still last time. Even if we gotta donate straight cash without seeds, we gonna keep this thing going and going.

Dave, ever think about sending them out yourself man? I don't know if you'd feel safe doing that, no pressure . Cool knowing someone else don't really worry about PH anymore.

Happy growing and stay safe everyone.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Good to know. I'll PM Oldpink and I just opened the fridge to search for my CBG Durban seeds to soak,if I get some good news from the postman soon enough that will make a nice side by side grow and if not, hey I'll figure something to do with the hole.
Curious to see how this mutant will turn, those diformities make me think of a malicious micro organism developping on young shoots.

A side by side of the two would be amazing. I hope the seeds arrive in time, b even if they dont, at least you'll have experience with CBG, so you can compare it to the Afropips version.

Are you referring to the Borg, aka Broad Mites? Ive battled and defeated them once long long ago, but not had any issues in a long time. I did consider it, but I have dismissed the notion. Ill put my money on genetic, or a nutrient imbalance. We will know eventually when I get it sorted out.

Yeah, with everything going on @ the bay, I figured it'd be a while, possibly never (hope not). I'm a patient man though, and have no problem waiting... You know that old saying, with the good things and the waiting... And hells yeah Ill be making seed! Big Bertha has convinced me that a Laos/Durban cross is in order, plus a (Hz/Sk)/Durban would be awesome. Probably just cross DP with everything I got!

I too have considered is this the final nail. Gypsy still isn't in the clear unfortunately as authorities in Maine are trying to extradite him. I hope once all the legal troubles are behind him, ICMAG will return to its hey-days. Fingers crossed!

The Laos/Durban cross would be a real nice hybrid for you. I have no doubt you'll want to explore alot of those seeds to see what is available to you. Im excited for the day when I get start larger numbers of the DPxThai hybrid. The Ace outdoor Mix, and Classic Seeds C.GoldxDiesel have completely taken over my small veg room atm. Ill have to move them all into the veg tent soon once they're too big, but that just means Ill have lots of space for starting more seeds. Maybe its time to dip into more of the DPxThai soon. Get you excited a lil more for making your own seeds.

Speaking of BB, I just weighed the main cola of her, and it came in at around 21grams. My biggest cola ever! I need to turn it into a cob, but damn its just so pretty to look at. So big, fat and sticky!

I already made two 1oz cobs from her, and with some extra buds in addition to the 21gram cola, she produced a lil over 3 oz. I really feel like she needed at least 3 more weeks, so yield would have been even better if I had time for fully bud development.

Her lil sister produced around an Oz herself. Bummer. Of course itd be the lil sister who is nanner free, smh.

Do you have a Haze/Skunk in your garden right now? Ive got some of Sams Thunk, and HazeSkunk in my fridge.. I may have to steal your idea and do the cross myself some day. Ive grown out Sams HazeSkunk before, and it was the trippiest weed Ive ever had, but I developed a tolerance to it pretty quickly, so the trippy effects disappeared, but Id like to go back to it again someday soon.

I'm feeling the same way man. A beautiful deep purple DP cross with everything, first gotta be Purple Haze. That Laos/Durban sounds fire.

Sucks bay might be going down but the site will still last time. Even if we gotta donate straight cash without seeds, we gonna keep this thing going and going.

Dave, ever think about sending them out yourself man? I don't know if you'd feel safe doing that, no pressure . Cool knowing someone else don't really worry about PH anymore.

Happy growing and stay safe everyone.

Id love to see someone cross this DP with another very purple variety and see what the offspring would look like. My hopes would be some that are so dark you may think they're black. If I ever get another Deep Purple variety in my garden, you better believe Id do that and go through shit tons of seeds to find the darkest purple possible.

I hope everyone that gets these beans will make some amazing hybrids and share the pics around here. Itd be awesome to see what other people are cooking up with the DP.

The thought of sending seeds directly was considered, but thats against ToC I believe, and Seedbay doesn't want tester seeds sent out directly to members. Seedbay provides a buffer for both parties involved, so its safer that way. Albeit slower.

Good to know Im not the only guy who doesn't freak out over pH too. If you've read the 'help me, my plant is dying, etc, etc' threads, and saw the many replies mentioning pH, one would think pH is the most important thing to worry about in your garden, and is the bane of all your problems.

When really fertility levels are your biggest concern, and plenty of growers swing wildly from one end of the spectrum to the other, often times not even knowing which end they're currently on. Which is why I strongly advocate suction lysimeters and a good EC/PPM meter.

Sorry to drag on so long, Ive been puffing on some of Lil Sis, and Big Bertha atm. Pretty smooth smoke for having no real cure. Just 9 days drying, and 4 days 'cure'. Ill go on about them another day soon.

Good day all.

 

[Dirt Life]

Today, there were only 18 listings active on Seedbay... 18. Its sad, really... Was a great seed auction site once, looks to be in the past now. I hope its just a hiccup that will be sorted out soon, but, when I saw the active listings today, didnt get the best feeling about SBs future.

OTOH, I would love to see more of your DP/Thais! BB alone, IMVHO, is worth peruzing that cross further! Ive never had a 21 gram main cola, thats just redic! Did the ounce yielding sister of Bertha have a nanner or intersexual traits? I didnt see it mentioned, although I might have missed it.. And yeah, I have a Hz/Sk keeper I love, and finishing up now... In fact, I just posted pics of her in the Revival of the Ultimate Sativa thread. I think she would pair very well with the DP, and will be hitting her up if I do get a chance @ testing these.

 

[Dave Coulier]

From what I understand, some Bot or scammer 'bought' nearly every listing, but clearly isn't going to pay. Apparently it has happened before, but Im not sure to this measure. You'd think they would relist everything pretty quickly to keep things running smoothly, but it seems no one is in a hurry to do so. Its a real shame.

Ill definitely have to find time to grow some more of the DP/Thai cross that BB came from. I bet there are plants in there that would have even bigger main colas. Ill just have to go through alot of seeds to find more like her. Hopefully the next one will not have the intersex trait.

The lil sis was completely nanner free. Not a single one on her. Of course yield is a concern, and her terp profile isn't as appealing as BB.

Ill have to check out the thread so I can see some pics of your Haze/Skunk. Its an excellent haze hybrid to grow out for sure. I hope you'll get the chance to hit her up with some DP Pollen in the future. We can compare our outcomes when that day comes

Today, there were only 18 listings active on Seedbay... 18. Its sad, really... Was a great seed auction site once, looks to be in the past now. I hope its just a hiccup that will be sorted out soon, but, when I saw the active listings today, didnt get the best feeling about SBs future.

OTOH, I would love to see more of your DP/Thais! BB alone, IMVHO, is worth peruzing that cross further! Ive never had a 21 gram main cola, thats just redic! Did the ounce yielding sister of Bertha have a nanner or intersexual traits? I didnt see it mentioned, although I might have missed it.. And yeah, I have a Hz/Sk keeper I love, and finishing up now... In fact, I just posted pics of her in the Revival of the Ultimate Sativa thread. I think she would pair very well with the DP, and will be hitting her up if I do get a chance @ testing these.

 

[Dave Coulier]

My camera is loaded full of goodies for me to share, and the first thing I pulled out is some Durban Poison Seeds. I know the testers are likely impatient by this point, so I hope this will hold them over for the time being.

This picture says it all!

Just as beautiful as a polished gem Looks a bit like mother of pearl wouldn't you say?.

 

[sdd420]

Dave those seed pics are super cool man thanks