eastcoastjoe
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With all due respect, outdoor environment is hardly comparable to indoor.
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Can the genetics be saved from plant with fusarium/pythium/stem canker?
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eastcoastjoe
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Here’s the solution. Stop buying clones from Strainly. Consider testing them if you do because, you won’t find the solution to fixing the problem on ICMAG.
Now before you utter some more nonsense, go read the first page where the dude starts talking about high temps killing clones and cool temps being the solution for healthy mothers. That’s why I was talking about temps. That is false. You don’t read too good do you ?
Ca++
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@eastcoastjoe
Indeed. Outdoor there is a lot more pressure. These plants indoor are not like that. Outdoor though, they have picked this up from the soil. Weeks of rain, and months of high RH, have also aided the attack, while poor weather has weakened the plant. This is why it's such a good example. Against worse odds, it's covered in damage, but still the damage is localised. The plant has lived.
Tomato seeds planted in substrate purposefully infected with Pythium, were coated in trichoderma or bacillus subtilis, to look at the damping off issues in Kenya.
Without treatment, 2 out of 3 seeds failed
With trichoderma on the seeds, 1 in 4 failed
With bacillus subtilis, 1 in 5 failed.
bacillus subtilis is the current control method employed by many field cannabis growers. In the soil, and more usually, applied by a few foliar applications, to keep the plants covered in the stuff.
As a bio control, it's not going to eradicate pythium, but studies suggest a 66% lower incidence.
Indeed. Outdoor there is a lot more pressure. These plants indoor are not like that. Outdoor though, they have picked this up from the soil. Weeks of rain, and months of high RH, have also aided the attack, while poor weather has weakened the plant. This is why it's such a good example. Against worse odds, it's covered in damage, but still the damage is localised. The plant has lived.
Tomato seeds planted in substrate purposefully infected with Pythium, were coated in trichoderma or bacillus subtilis, to look at the damping off issues in Kenya.
Without treatment, 2 out of 3 seeds failed
With trichoderma on the seeds, 1 in 4 failed
With bacillus subtilis, 1 in 5 failed.
bacillus subtilis is the current control method employed by many field cannabis growers. In the soil, and more usually, applied by a few foliar applications, to keep the plants covered in the stuff.
As a bio control, it's not going to eradicate pythium, but studies suggest a 66% lower incidence.
eastcoastjoe
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Are you sure you have fusarium ? Have you confirmed with testing ? There surely is more pressure but also many other variables that are favorable. Like room for root growth so a plant can maybe grow fast enough to out run an infection as well as soil tons of biology as you mentioned. Hard to replicate that indoors unless you are using big smart pots. Even that isn’t the cure though.
At any rate though, it’s impossible to compare indoor and outdoor. I’m sure you’re aware of this but many people run sick mother plants outdoors so they can pull fresh material that may be clean. Besides what I mentioned above, the biggest factor in remediation is the heat from the sun
Ca++
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Well that's just rude.
Do you suggest different answers to these given, exist anywhere.
It's probably right that you are offering nothing. Your solution on IC, has been given many times.
eastcoastjoe
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Stop buying clones from dirty gardens. That is the solution. It’s common knowledge that strainly is full of hacks selling infected clones. Has nothing to do with warm temperatures
acespicoli
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Tissue culture the apical stem, theory is the newer plant growth will out compete the fungal infection.
In a typical cutting you would want a 3 node cutting from a healthy area of the plant.
In tissue culture you could potentially culture a single cell into a plant albiet in a sterile petri
Over a much more extended time period.
Sterilize the explant cutting exterior and hope for the best on your new growths
Neem and Sulfur as well as Copper treatments may be helpful
In a typical cutting you would want a 3 node cutting from a healthy area of the plant.
In tissue culture you could potentially culture a single cell into a plant albiet in a sterile petri
Over a much more extended time period.
Sterilize the explant cutting exterior and hope for the best on your new growths
Neem and Sulfur as well as Copper treatments may be helpful
acespicoli
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Indoor mold - Wikipedia
What Temperature and Humidity Does Mold Grow At?
Mold grows fastest between 77°F and 86°F with relative humidity above 55%. It’s worth noting that mold can survive at almost any temperature. Colder temperatures simply cause mold colonies to go dormant, which limits spore production.Coincidentally, temperatures between 77°F and 86°F are also the optimum temperatures for human comfort. In lieu of keeping the temperature in your home either blisteringly hot or freezing cold, the best way to control mold growth is by keeping the relative humidity low.
What’s the Best Humidity Level to Maintain Indoors?
Between 35% and 45% relative humidity will ensure that mold spores aren’t able to spread easily. However, if your air is too dry, it will be hard on the mucous membranes of your body. You’ll want to make sure that you’re living in a relative humidity of at least 35%.Remember, mold grows best at a relative humidity of 55% so keeping the humidity well below that percentage is your safest bet. Most modern dehumidifiers have the ability to set a minimum humidity level. Set yours right around 40% to keep mold from growing in your home.
How Much Moisture Does Mold Need to Grow? - My Pure Environment
Mold can spring up in as little as 24 hours after a puddle forms from a leaky pipe or A/C unit. Mold does not need much moisture to grow.
www.mypureenvironment.com
Just read thru the whole thread good stuff >>>Best>ibes
So your solution is don't accept dirty genetics,,,your not going to suggest learning how to do proper initation,,,
Pathetic
Pathetic
acespicoli
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Would dust or mist micronized new cuts with sulfur and bury deep in substrate only leave a inch above ground remove lower leaves. Thats the way I start transplants from seed or clone
@englishrick is that what you were getting at?
Where the hell has your old cantankerous ass been hiding
I aint seen you since the the exodus brightside uk threads ?
@englishrick is that what you were getting at?
Where the hell has your old cantankerous ass been hiding
I aint seen you since the the exodus brightside uk threads ?
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Ive had pythium bro , lol,,,took me out for ages,,,
Like i said to locdog,,,Would dust or mist micronized new cuts with sulfur and bury deep in substrate only leave a inch above ground remove lower leaves. Thats the way I start transplants from seed or clone
@englishrick is that what you were getting at?
Where the hell has your old cantankerous ass been hiding
I aint seen you since the the exodus brightside uk threads ?
Let's say some dirty motherfuker has the holy grail set of clones,,,no fuker else has them,,,you cant go to someone else,,what do you do then,,,you fukin learn how to clean them up like i did,,Initation is the key,,,nowadays I don't trust any clone that's inbound,,,trust is something for noobs,,joe over here thinks its best just to avoid it,,,what a fukin bell end
i say have a proper clean up protocol for all inbound cuts,,take the responsibility on ,,grow better and teach the so called experts,,joe the joker,,everyone is laughing at you , keep the jokes coming bro,,it's keeping us all engaged
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Crazy Chester
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Exactly - sometimes there's no choice but to clean her up - can't just let a special plant die that may not exist anywhere else anymore but in your garden.
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eastcoastjoe
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Find the holy grail on strainly ? LMAO
If joe got fusarium on his dick he would be a woman by now
What's your pro nouns joe,,that fusarium got you growing titties yet
dramamine
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Many fusarium species. Reading your take here, my guess is there are ones you've yet to encounter.
Definitely True,,,now that's an interesting post,,what types won't hypochlorous acid kill?,,,are they the most common?,,,I'm genuinely asking as I agree with you
With respect,,,
Are you saying that apical meristem culture and initation wont solve it?,,,
Are you advocating chopping your nob off?
With respect,,,
Are you saying that apical meristem culture and initation wont solve it?,,,
Are you advocating chopping your nob off?
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I say we need to man up and take responsibility,,,trust is for noobs,,if we want the names we need to accept that not many clone sellers do multiplication invitro or take it from apical meristem,,,so we need to know how to clean shit up ourselves,, when we learn we elevate,
I want people to be able to take in anything, be so strong nothing can stop us getting what we want,,,
I want people to be able to take in anything, be so strong nothing can stop us getting what we want,,,
