Butte County

[Backyard Farmer]

Again. no one wants you to be busted and you never were under the old rules according to you , your neighborhood has been rocking with every one growing in their back yard and block parties and rainbows and unicorns...

What we don't understand is why you want OTHER growers regulated so hard?

 

[Shcrews]

psi haze nobody on this website ever wanted you arrested for anything.

your bitter/spiteful vibe is kinda wack too. that's the worst way to approach things. i hope you find your way into a more positive mental space.

 

[Urbngroz]

I think some people are just gonna be haters. If you wanna roll with the big dogs you should get a property in the hills or a warehouse in the city. Everybody likes to smoke but very few grow so somebody has to produce for the rest.
Anyhow Im in the 530 tryin to get a feel for what people are gonna be pushin this year as far as numbers for full sun. A couple people have told me 20-30 others less than 50. Just tryin to see what others on here are hearing. Ill probabaly charter a plane in a few weeks and see whats out in the hills first hand before deciding on plant count.

 

[skull and roses]

I know a lot of people that are going big and some are scaling way down. I'm good friends with a local grow store owner and he said soil orders are WAY WAY down! It's going to be very interesting. Hopefully something comes from the lawsuit. The people of butte need to get envolvec in the meetings. Monday's at Lost on Main in chico. 5:30 I believe. I've chstted with prop and him and his crew have some good tactics. The bottom line is we need to unite and bring some of these big grower circles together and try to make some noise.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

god damnit psi you are a fucking retard…. I NEVER SAID I WANTED YOU TO GET ARRESTED DONT PUT FUCKING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

too scared to go over 6 plants?? too scared or broke to get a bigger property. you complain about the 40 acre guys growing more plants and yet you have no ambition to go out and get your own?? you keep it up with your same retarded logic, that somehow 40 acre growers were all anti small growers and wanted you to get busted (YEA FUCKING RIGHT LIKE WE CARE ABOUT SOMEONE THEMALITO GROWING 12 PLANTS HAHA)….

how many plants could you realistically even grow in a backyard without bothering the neighbors?? not much anyways…you could have grown 20 and still not gotten arrested. THEY WERE NOT ARRESTING ANYBODY FOR SMALL RESIDENTIAL GROWS MORON. for the third fucking time, i knew 2 guys growing 50 plants on small 1 acre parcels and who had compliance checks last year under measure B and NOTHING HAPPENED. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR "I was facing arrest under measure B"…NO YOU WERENT. you were just too big of a pussy to grow bigger. dont be mad the rest of us had the balls to do what we want in life.

seriously dont put words in my mouth or il be putting my fucking foot in your face you little twerp.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

The difference between 6 plants and 48 plants was 2.5 acres of land... HAHAHAHAHA.... wtf... who wrote that shit? Did any of you care that you were cutting off the ability to grow legally for 90%+ of the population of Butte co.? Did you think about that or just hope people got robbed so you can hype your 40 acres bullshit plan? There is weed all over my neighborhood growing visibly from the street, rich neighborhood, (yes, we can afford an In-your fucking face lawyer), and there is no crime, YOU FAILED. Cannabis grown by the masses IS safe on smaller plots of land. It is a responsibility factor. In my neighborhood, most people are ether retired or on the 9-5. There is no crime even though everyone knows that almost half the people grow cannabis.


[/B]

you couldn't fit 48 outdoor plants in a backyard of a residential neighborhood anyways. if you did it would be growing over the fences into the neighbors property..THATS WHY MEASURE B had a smaller plant count for smaller residences. why is that so hard for you to comprehend. when i did flybys over butte and saw some people blowing out their backyards hard, no wonder measure A passed because they were sick of that. if you're in a residential neighborhood and have families all around you…sorry you cannot grow 24 5lb plants and not expect to piss people off. not my fault you are too broke to go buy a bigger property to do that kind of stuff... BYF already stated earlier, that larger acreage can sustain larger commercial grows without interfering with neighbors and families.


your logic is still retarded. you are happy about an extra 100 sq ft of grow space, that you could have just grown on anyways if you had balls even half the size of a squirrels. so now you are bragging about your extra 100 sq ft while also condoning the declining revenue of your county, and the livelihoods of other people from your same industry who are going to face problems over this. YOURE PUBLICALLY CELEBRATING FELLOW GROWERS GOING TO JAIL, that alone should get you a fucking black eye and worse.


how can you even reasonably expect to be apart of this community while publicly supporting the degradation of cannabis growing rights!!! NO ONE ELSE IS SUPPORTING YOU HERE. go join the measure A coalition and suck it up with all those anti cannabis crusaders and you will realize who you are in bed with. you are on the wrong side of the fence and we aren't gonna be letting you back on this side…you showed your true colors. dont expect shit from the ICmag familia you fucking twerp, you are on 100% blacklist you will never sell a seed on this website or at any cannabis cup.

 

[oldCounty]

With some reservation, it will be business as usual on this end. I don't have the space nor can I afford the indoor. I moved off the grid in a secluded area to not encroach on peoples existing communities, and, Measure A is how i'm repaid

60% Of Butte did not vote for Measure B, but, 60% did choose not to vote. Everyone knows which age group doesn't vote in local elections. Out of the remaining 40%, 10k people out of around 120k eligible voters was the difference.

Was it Connelly or Ramsey who was quoted in the CN&R last year as saying Cannabis may be Butte Counties biggest cash crop? Please, plummet your property values if you like but hyperbole won't disprove facts.

 

[oldCounty]

oops...

60% Of Butte did not vote for Measure A,

was what I meant to say.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

And if you are on a parcel that is not 20 or 40 acres, my right to grow medicine should not be restricted. Land space has NOTHING to do with my right to grow medicine. Get your shit together..

LOL, yet measure A is restricting the rights of many people to access medicine who were part of larger collectives growing larger plots. DID YOU EVEN READ THE LAWSUIT. dozens of patients no longer have access to meds now because of measure A, i hope you are happy with that!!! your extra 100 sq ft are really worth all those old folks who can't grow and had to sign up with collective gardens that now cannot operate legally...

Take Yes4prop215 for example, he (and other measure B supporters) want me to be arrested for growing more than 6 plants. Seriously?? Not only that, but his buddy comes in and starts flaming me and hoping I get robbed for the same reason... Why would anyone want anyone to get robbed??

Yes4prop215 wanted everyone who grows more than 6 plants on less than 1.5 acres to be arrested, fuck you, dude...


And YOU should be removed from the cannabis industry because you called for my arrest and robbery.

Yes4prop21,r. You wanted to arrest me for growing more than 6 plants on 1.5 acres while you laugh your ass off growing 99 on 40 acres..

SHOW ME WHERE I PUBLICLY CALLED FOR YOUR ARREST OR ROBBERY. NEVER ONCE SAID IT, SO FUCK OFF WITH YOUR ACCUSATIONS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PREVENT ME FROM GROWING MY MEDS…
BUT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM GROWING THEIRS?? DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT A COMPLETE HYPOCRITICAL DUMBASS YOU ARE???

 

[Yes4Prop215]

60% Of Butte did not vote for Measure B, but, 60% did choose not to vote. Everyone knows which age group doesn't vote in local elections. Out of the remaining 40%, 10k people out of around 120k eligible voters was the difference.

Was it Connelly or Ramsey who was quoted in the CN&R last year as saying Cannabis may be Butte Counties biggest cash crop? Please, plummet your property values if you like but hyperbole won't disprove facts.

well said, measure B won the previous year by 60%, it was publicly supported. the community out here got sloppy and lazy and barely anybody voted, OR i have sneaking suspicions the votes were tampered with. if there is a revote i would expect different numbers…..im very mad at any cannabis people who didn't vote against measure A because i sure as hell went out and voted and got all my people to do the same.

you know what is hilarious, and actually some low-key butte county insider information that i was keeping private until now but fuck it. RAMSEY's damn family is involved in growing. his son and their friends are blowing out property up in the hills just like everyone else. there are also sheriffs deputies from butte and yuba county who own properties who are also doing big things…one of the biggest operations in butte is on property owned by a retired yuba county deputy. Ramsey himself is actually a closet liberal and pro pot he just puts up the tough guy act to appease all the right wing bible thumping voters.

 

[oldCounty]

I've only been here around 5 years but I have family who have lived here near 20. I've heard quite a few stories I wish I hadn't haha

 

[Pendleton]

Hey psi, if you're going to snarl at people please don't do so indiscriminately. What I was saying had nothing to do with your post, you don't need to jump down my throat.

 

[Psi Haze]

psi haze nobody on this website ever wanted you arrested for anything.

your bitter/spiteful vibe is kinda wack too. that's the worst way to approach things. i hope you find your way into a more positive mental space.

This would work for me in an environment which is politically correct. It seems like some crazy things are happening when I see the local environment go to shit and I cant grow more than 6 fucking plants.

I sympathize for the commercial pot growers who sell it for a living but they need to respect the fact that some people are simpler people than to own 40 acres of land which was gifted by their fathers, everyone should have access to enough meds to kill cancer. Again, 6 fucking plants wont cut it.. Buying land, land value, selling real estate... fucking hog wash... ..it's not happening.. Its all family owned, they are NOT selling their land, value is NOT going up, and they all want $1m crops.. sitting on massive crop after crop and fucking us over..

I watched this county go from meth dealers to herb dealers and that was perfect, until the pot deals started getting too rich and crazy with $500k crops every year. Many people moved out, bought land in Montana, Oregon, ect.. 500+ acres..


Some people are ready to fight and kill for that kind of life to last forever.... Yes4prop215 voted to fuck me out of my meds and calls me a dick, why should I read his shit. lol ..I skim it. I don't really give a fuck if he thinks the world is perfect with people being burned alive in their cars with a firebomb.. how many properties get robbed? record on how many? wow. ya, fuck him.. he preaches for people to pay the man and not to empower the masses with the freedom to grow with a wink and smile from all the neighbors, maybe some are parameds, firefighters, buttfucker-cops, city workers, ect, and they want the right to grow. Most people I talked to said the assholes in the hills, and I've seen it too, were having too many problems and could ultimately hurt the cannabis movement due to their greed.


In this local area, it is not about freedom to grow, it is about money and greed... How many people do any of you know who will fight and kill for their riches? It was becoming a problem.. I wanted my spot to grow my own meds, 20-40lbs a year. ..I`ll never get cancer, bishes And yes4prop215 calls me a peckerwood... hahahaha.... wtf ever.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

hahaha you sound exactly like the stupid measure A supporters, nothing but false accusations, assumptions, and incoherent ramblings. you dont even see the bigger picture, your mindset is terribly small.

for fucks sake, i will pick apart your pathetic ramblings, if you want to learn please do, if not, stay the fuck out of this thread with your bullshit. because NO ONE here agrees with you.

when I see the local environment go to shit and I cant grow more than 6 fucking plants.

for the millionth time you complain about "not being able to grow more than 6 plants" and once again I'm telling you that you are being a scared little bitch for saying that. prop215 allows more than the initial limits, many doctors write scripts for more than 6/12 if you have even half a clue. you could have grown 99 plants in your little shed just like any of us were growing 80-90 on our properties. you were just too scared or ignorant of the laws. SO STOP WITH THE 6 PLANT BULLSHIT. dont say it one more time, because its FALSE.

40 acres of land which was gifted by their fathers, everyone should have access to enough meds to kill cancer. Again, 6 fucking plants wont cut it.. Buying land, land value, selling real estate... fucking hog wash... ..it's not happening.. Its all family owned, they are NOT selling their land, value is NOT going up, and they all want $1m crops.. sitting on massive crop after crop and fucking us over..

Do you even stop for one second to listen to your own rambling nonsense???? me and a bunch of guys i know had no issue working hard, stacking up money, and coming to this county to buy land. had no problem finding land, had no problem merging with the locals, had no problem with any of the BS you're spouting off about. many of my friends here are local and grew up here and none would agree with any of the bullshit you are rambling. you're just making excuses like a pathetic peon would….dont be mad at the rest of us because we are more successful. one of the most successful persons i know in butte county is a real estate invester and he doesn't grow a single plant, real estate is hot game in town, you're just too close minded or broke to realize that.

Some people are ready to fight and kill for that kind of life to last forever.... and not to empower the masses with the freedom to grow with a wink and smile from all the neighbors, maybe some are parameds, firefighters, buttfucker-cops, city workers, ect, and they want the right to grow. In this local area, it is not about freedom to grow, it is about money and greed... How many people do any of you know who will fight and kill for their riches?

hahaha the ignorance is alarming. you support measure A, which empowers local cops and city to violate basic civil rights, and then pretend to be against cops in the same tune. you talk about being ready to kill for their lifestyle, YOU SHOULD ASK THAT SAME QUESTION TO THE HUNDREDS OF GROWERS IN THAT SITUATION DUE TO MEASURE A. you act like your little pathetic shed grow was ever at risk, if it was ever worth being at risk, acting likes its comparable to actual commercial grows that paid the bills for thousands of people. you're shed aint shit in the big scheme!!

you are hopeless, there is no one on this sight who supports your close minded, hypocrital, and down right insane viewpoint. once you finally get your head out of your ass you might finally see this. you need to kick rocks and get out, with your mindset you will never mesh with this movement. you are no friend to cannabis users or growers, get the fuck out of here with your nonsense!

 

[jackpot7]

Prop don't waste your energy on psi haze. Some people just cant understand somethings so let them swim in their ignorance. This is a good thread for us in butte lets keep the good info in the thread cause psi haze thoughts are just ruining a good thread... Respect

 

[Payaso]

Okay, the party is over. NOW.

The hate stops here... next hate-filled post gets the poster a week's vacation... no matter who it is.

I am quite tempted to do some cleaning of this thread, as it represents some of the basest parts of this community - we should all be pulling together not tearing us apart with accusations and incriminations...

Life is too short for this crap and Buddha says you've gotta let this shit go...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

thanks payaso, and sorry if some of my posts may seem "hate filled"….we are just all very angry over measure A in my area, people are losing their livelihoods, losing their properties, facing criminal charges, etc….and to have Psi haze spouting off in support of measure A brings out real anger in me.

this thread needs to be about fighting measure A, and will be used for that. anymore rambling nonsense from PsiHaze will be ignored from here on out.

 

[oldCounty]

I think it's all pretty simple. People who supported Measure A:

Michael L. Ramsey, Butte County District Attorney
Maureen A. Kirk, Butte County Supervisor
Jerry W. Smith, Retired Butte County Sheriff
Sean Early, President, Butte County Cattlemen
Irv Leen, President, Butte County Farm Bureau

People who supported Measure B:

Andrew T. Holcombe, attorney, former Chico Mayor
Denice Lessard, patient
Anne Murphy, patient
Philip G. Seuls, patient
Andrew Merkel, a medical marijuana advocate
Denice Lessard
Ron Halvorson, a former Assembly of God pastor

Ask yourself which side you want to be on and who has been on the wrong side of the argument for decades. Ask yourself who has had to use cries of think of the children for decades instead of basing their argument on facts. Which side continues to cry about the ills of marijuana ruining our "morality," as if personal freedoms mean nothing.

 

[oldCounty]

ugh this no editing thing is wack. I almost forgot one of the most important ones...

The California branch of NORML and the Butte County Democratic Party also opposed Measure A and supported Measure B.

 

[theJointedOne]

Hella pigs and their loved ones grow crops. I know of more than one neighborhood that is 'protected'.