Butte County

[Yes4Prop215]

at least locally at the county level, it will help organizing. some other groups have but i wouldn't say they are very coherent or have a clear cut goal. there is one lawsuit being filed but the measure A supporters are pretty sure it has no merit because they keep citing the Live Oak ban as evidence that cities/counties can ban growing.

not even sure if its legally possible to overturn measure A at this point.

 

[Urbngroz]

Are they visiting empty gardens with no greenhouse, and if so what do they do when they see empty pots? Coming inside the home to see moms/ starts/ search the house?

 

[ledhusif]

Anybody on here up in Modoc County?

Anybody on here up in Modoc County?

My roomies did a season In Shithole Rancho Tehama & now were otw up to Modoc, We got Some 8wkers getting tested & ready . . . Bodhis Kandahar, Aruba & Te(RmxV2)(9wks) we also have a GT/BlueDragon cut we might be taking clones off of

 

[mojave green]

adapt or die.

 

[Shcrews]

santa cruz county passed an ordinance today banning commercial growing, 99sq ft canopy maximum per property now.

 

[furrywall11]

santa cruz county passed an ordinance today banning commercial growing, 99sq ft canopy maximum per property now.

This is an outrageous and frightening trend. a lot of people that are going to be very negatively impacted by that ordinance....where next? Humboldt???
and no delivery services in SC too. sad. If you've had an epileptic seizure in the last couple of years they won't give you a license to drive.

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2015/03/25/18770413.php

 

[TheRealHash]

^ your better off spending your time and money on a really good lawyer who will help you and your buddies out. Not saying it wouldn't be nice to have the whole state/country on a happy pot growing page, but wake up, that shit isn't gonna happen anywhere.. We gotta defend ourselves and our homies doin the same thing.

Why wouldn't people get behind a movement to fight the BOS across the state.. Especially if Tony Serra was on board.. If half of the growers pitched in one Benjamin we could wreck shop. What makes it unrealistic? One c note is nothing and if we all threw down on it we might have a chance. Power lies in numbers. If we organized we might be able to fight back-

 

[Yes4Prop215]

santa cruz county passed an ordinance today banning commercial growing, 99sq ft canopy maximum per property now.

there is no way that all these counties banning it within the same timespan is NOT a coincidence. i bet if some real investigation was done, some big group like UCANN or Arcview is financing these and pressing the local supervisors to institute these bans.

thats fucking crazy about santa cruz though, because they looked to have a much more organized and sizable group of people who were against that ordinance. i really though SC was gonna be able to fight it off.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Why wouldn't people get behind a movement to fight the BOS across the state.. Especially if Tony Serra was on board.. If half of the growers pitched in one Benjamin we could wreck shop. What makes it unrealistic? One c note is nothing and if we all threw down on it we might have a chance. Power lies in numbers. If we organized we might be able to fight back-

tony sierra still practices?? i dont know, i like what they guy represents but having a lawyer who did prison time for tax resisting doesn't seem to look the best in court. we do need to find a good civil rights lawyer who can fight for prop215. its the damn Live Oak decision that all these counties are claiming as precedent to ban growing.

adapt or die.

so you've bed up with some corporate VC interests? either way, I'm getting sick of your sneak dissing comments in here, you seem to clearly enjoy seeing fellow growers lose their gardens.

 

[hup234]

so you've bed up with some corporate VC interests? either way, I'm getting sick of your sneak dissing comments in here, you seem to clearly enjoy seeing fellow growers lose their gardens.

dude,you gotta clear your mind,don't attack everybody on ICMag
right now think clearly and make a plan for this year

if everyone's getting crushed outside can you do an indoor in LA or somewhere...just a thought.I don't know shit about Calf. but you do

 

[Yes4Prop215]

if you check his post history he has made some real sly comments in the past few days regarding this issue, including one where he bragged about corporate big dogs kicking us out the game and another where he insinuated he was a measure A supporter. either way he's on ignore from here on out.

indoor in LA is an option and i already have a job offer down there, but i like running my own show. i still have my own warehouse that we built last year as a hedge against outdoor, but sun grown has always been my passion. and i bought a bunch of cold frames this year thinking that GH would be a better option but measure A has some teeth to it and they are taking down light deps left and right out here.

at the bare minimum I'm gonna through one of the frames up and try to fire off a crop for a july-august harvest. as long as you are under 100 and dont have any BHO labs or large amounts of weight sitting, there is no criminal charges and it will remain a code violation.

 

[Urbngroz]

I think the best option is for everyone to go for it. Safety in numbers, if you can afford to take the year off plant anyway. The more the better. Besides there might not to be too many seasons left for us if their plans work

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea more and more guys i talk to out here are gonna replant and just go for the fences with sun grown. I've also heard a few stories about guys dragging out the civil complaint process for multiple weeks and being able to still harvest before facing fines. a quick google earth tour over butte county shows hundreds upon hundreds of gardens. they are gonna have their hands full for sure. I just wish there was a stronger legal battle that would take measure A and other county bans to supreme court. If butte county got sued millions of dollars for illegal search and seizures that would help stop measure A. Hope all those compliance officer pricks get fired.

Either way, I'm gonna diversify once again and get another spot in a new county with no measure A but still pretty close by. and also pretty funny that I've been put into contact with a VC hedge fund manager who only wants to deal in the emerging industry. weird how things turn out in less than a week after deciding to pull the plug on my current property…(which I'm leaning towards firing one up anyways)

 

[TheRealHash]

Fire it up!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

butte county sheriff just released a very interesting report summarizing their activity in 2014. it might help some breath a sigh of relief when it comes to playing the numbers game. the DA estimated there was 3,000 known garden sites in butte county during their last check in 2013. in total, the local narco's made 280 arrests in the entire county, with only 52 coming from marijuana. so 52 guys in jail out of 3,000 gardens, and you figure each garden usually has 2-3 people working it, etc. thats 1-2% of total growers. i wish they had stats on exactly how many of those 52 arrests actually involved convictions.

also outlined that their main priorities are meth, BHO labs and child endangerment, so as long as your garden site is clean, with no evidence of BHO labs, children running around, or meth use, than you should just be dealing with the civil penalty and not criminal.

http://www.chicoer.com/general-news...rce-meth-marijuana-continue-as-top-problems/1

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

First, I wouldnt make too much of the "local" sheriffs report in that its kind of like the fox reporting "all is good" in the hen house. I would have to immediately suspect that the crime stat reports in the Paradise area are somewhat skewed in that "fat" statistics equate to more funding and like other small broke-dick areas similar to Paradise, crime funding can pay a lot of bills and not necessarily have to be accurate. To me, the report is not reporting, its more along the lines of justifying.

I wouldnt take anything DA Ramsey has to say or preach about when it comes to marijuana as the gospel, let alone the truth. He's been on his own personal anti-215 campaign for years and his lackys arent gonna do anything but what he says and if they dont, theyll find themselves walking a beat on the south side of Bakersfield.

As for the police chief of Paradise "pilin on" during a crime report conference/convention in Oroville, gimme a break. Its frickin Paradise for Christ sake. She could run all that down before you finished a cup of coffee and a danish. The town likes to think it represents the entire Ridge area but the truth is - it doesnt. Its just a small town with an identity insecurity. When they personally spout stats about marijuana busts, most are indoors and within town limits and usually only attempted by uninformed dummies from the bay area. The closest real grow area to Paradise is the area around Sterling City and the Paradise Police Dept only serves...Paradise. As an afterthought, when did law enforcement in the town of Paradise get somebody smart enough to staple 2 sheets of paper together let alone comprise an unbiased, accurate crime report? Maybe its Ramsey? Laughable.

When I lived there (2007), the LEO were being investigated because of a rash of incidents where the officers, if they came to your house and your dog greeted them at the door, they would shoot it. Happened several times. It one case, the Paradise police, while serving an arrest warrant, knocked on the wrong door, the owners pet came bounding out to meet them and was promptly blown away....Screw you Paradise police and DA Mike Ramsey, you got nothing to say I need to hear or believe...cc

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^that is fucking crazy, yeah fuck paradise the only thing good in that town is the black bear diner. pretty laughable to see them on the report too, they barely have any crime.

ramsey is a fucking weasel, he is spouting all this anti 215 shit while his own son and his cronies operate grows up in the north county. they even have their own road nicknamed "ramsey road" because of the grows up there that magically never get checked. i was almost gonna be ramseys neighbor too, the house next door to him was for sale. my local homies tell me that ramsey is really a closet liberal who puts on the right wing anti drug crusader image just to keep his job.

but that report comes from above the sheriff, i dont even want to mention the groups name because they are the #1 narcos in butte. rhymes with dintif, and the fact they only arrested 52 growers on around 20ish properties out of 3000 possible grow sites and over 6000 growers and god knows how many thousands of brokers who drive up here to buy weight, the stats dictate "safety in numbers"….mass non compliance!!

i just hope they keep meth as their main priority and that in 2015, we dont see a fall in meth arrests but a rise in marijuana arrests. what a fucking load of shit that the county that barely had enough money to staff its sheriffs offices, is now deploying its sheriffs to measure A enforcement rather than staying on the meth busts. it even said in the report that their SEU (main marijuana enforcement unit in the BCSO) had to let off one of their staffer/clerks. i thought the SEU was some dozen strong unit flying around in choppers and doing big busts like CAMP in the 707, but they really only have 3 officers and a few clerks.

 

[mapinguari]

I just wish there was a stronger legal battle that would take measure A and other county bans to supreme court. If butte county got sued millions of dollars for illegal search and seizures that would help stop measure A.

That's the goal in Lake County. It's in a different appellate district from Live Oak, so the Maral decision isn't binding there. If the attorneys there can get a different decision from the appeals court there, it might entice the CA Supreme Court to take up the issue, which they refused to do in Maral.

Don't count on any of that to make a difference this season, though.

 

[milkyjoe]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6953750

If you think about it from a how can we maximize tax revenue consolidation is a pretty good strategy. Limit the number of growers and keep the tax rate high. Then use that money to pound the small guy out of business.

I am willing to bet even as crime rates drop you do not see enforcement budgets drop. They will find other ways to feed the eforcement/prison/industrial complex.

Sorry to see you guys going through this

 

[Shcrews]

ramsey is a fucking weasel, he is spouting all this anti 215 shit while his own son and his cronies operate grows up in the north county

crooked officials, you don't say

coincidentally, fresno county which also banned outdoor growing, had this happen today. sounds like weed was involved.
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"FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- The Fresno Police Department's second in command has been arrested in a federal drug conspiracy investigation. Deputy Chief Keith Foster, 51, is accused of distributing and possessing drugs.

Deputy Chief Keith Foster is accused of distributing and possessing oxycodone, marijuana, and heroin. He was arrested on Thursday after a year long investigation by the FBI and ATF. "
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Will the general public ever wake up to the fact that police are the enemy? They only investigated this guy for a year and found all this shit imagine what some cops get away with throughout the entirety of their career