Butane Residue Test Results

[Chonkski]

I actually just sent a few samples of shatter in for testing last week, and one of my unwinterized samples tested at 0ppms of any residual solvent.

Could this be possible? Or is the test wrong somehow?

It was tested through Sequia Labs

Sorry if the pic comes up funny, or doesn't come up at all. I use an iPad most of the time

 

[Chonkski]

Let's try this again

 

[Gray Wolf]

I actually just sent a few samples of shatter in for testing last week, and one of my unwinterized samples tested at 0ppms of any residual solvent.

Could this be possible? Or is the test wrong somehow?

It was tested through Sequia Labs

Sorry if the pic comes up funny, or doesn't come up at all. I use an iPad most of the time

Zero parts per millionth, simply means it is below the ppm test cutoff. If you have it tested in PPB, you will see it is still there.

 

[Chonkski]

MO Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mystery-Oil/191952837642348

Here is what he replaced my post with.

For the love of God! Gray Wolf is just another backyard-scientist running canned lighter fluid through HVAC recovery pumps on a picnic table in an attempt to hold on to the status-quo of profits from processes that use dirty gas. If he is your source of science, please, don't share it here. Cheers.

If you can't refute the facts offered, attack the messengers credibility!

How can anyone have the nerve! This is appalling to say the least. This is enough for me to make a Facebook account

 

[GratefulOne]

Facebook account?!!!! Don't drink the koolaide

 

[SkyHighLer]

He didn't delete GW's post, it's under "Posts to Page" down on the left hand column,
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mystery-Oil/191952837642348

I asked GW to take a look at MO's latest libelous remarks, and he jumped in just like I did.

The pump situation is being handled thanks to the cooperative effort here at ICMAG Forums. The other BS assertion he makes, that the non-volatile residue absolutely can't be distilled out is something I urge you guys to address by lowering your speed of distillation to avoid blow by. Here's how I stated it at MO's FB page,

"Butane can be distilled off cleanly in one pass imo, if you just transfer from one tank to another slowly... very slowly, probably down at the speed I boil off my residue test bags, just small bubbles across the surface. You should probably stop the boil off near the end, and just dump the final liquid butane/crap mixture. My two cents on the subject, I've never run a CLS."

and,

"John Edward Schuyler, I do agree the bulk butane supplies probably contain more non-volatile residue than everyones' hoping, you are just accepting their cetificate of anaylsis tests, none of you have actually squirted about 300ml from your bulk tank into a one gallon zip-lock bag (with the zip-lock cut off to lower the weight,) pre tared on a 0.001g scale? Once it boils off, vacuum purge the bag before weighing it to determine the amount of non-volatile residue. You'll also get to check for odor and color of the residue, and if you're good with playing around with the final boil off temps versus rate of boil off you can also get an esitmate of the volitile residues. Shouldn't be much of anything to observe in the way of volatiles with the bulk gases, but again, who really knows? Btw, I just rechecked the big 165g cans of Ronson available at any Walgreens for $6, and it's still one of the cleanest canned butanes available, if someone says otherwise bet them big, and then call them on it by doing my test. (My 'little test' is not for everyone, I'm addressing those that are already familiar with working with butane.)
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[Gray Wolf]

He didn't delete GW's post, it's under "Posts to Page" down on the left hand column,

Yeah, Son 1 helped me find it. I seldom use Facebook, because I just don't have enough time, so need a keeper.

 

[flatslabs]

Thought Sky might want these pics. Here are the results from loading and distilling 12 550ml big cans (~7 lbs) of StoK Fyr American N-Butane.

The white specs are paint chips from the can tap and the system was thoroughly cleaned beforehand.

 

[snake11]

Spending the day triple distilling 100+# of solvent...

EVERY SINGLE person who runs Ecogreen Gas, should at the minimum distill twice...

We distilled our last bottle several times and it still ruined our oil.

 

[SkyHighLer]

Thanks for the input, you guys need to figure out asap why your not getting clear butane in one pass. If you can't get a clean on one pass distill by slowing the whole thing down to the speed I boil off my test bags, than my residue test is bogus, the boiling off butane would be carrying with it some of the non-volatile residue. Kinda' puts into question the term "non-volatile residue," huh!?!!

The can of London came yesterday, thanks Pangea. I hope to test it latter today, but first I need to deal with some further testing of Puritane 9X. I already did some retesting of it, I guarantee everyone involved with BHO will be interested in the results, they haven't been testing production... they embarrassed themselves and me, all they had to do was learn how to do my simple test and monitor production. I'll post up all I know after I test the two cans of recent manufacture they sent me in response, not that it'll make any difference...

 

[krunchbubble]

Thanks for the input, you guys need to figure out asap why your not getting clear butane in one pass. If you can't get a clean on one pass distill by slowing the whole thing down to the speed I boil off my test bags, than my residue test is bogus, the boiling off butane would be carrying with it some of the non-volatile residue. Kinda' puts into question the term "non-volatile residue," huh!?!!

The can of London came yesterday, thanks Pangea. I hope to test it latter today, but first I need to deal with some further testing of Puritane 9X. I already did some retesting of it, I guarantee everyone involved with BHO will be interested in the results, they haven't been testing production... they embarrassed themselves and me, all they had to do was learn how to do my simple test and monitor production. I'll post up all I know after I test the two cans of recent manufacture they sent me in response, not that it'll make any difference...

Im trying to get Refined Hydrocarbon's to let you do a test of their solvent, they will be at the San Bernadino cup...

 

[GratefulOne]

Thanks for the input, you guys need to figure out asap why your not getting clear butane in one pass. If you can't get a clean on one pass distill by slowing the whole thing down to the speed I boil off my test bags, than my residue test is bogus, the boiling off butane would be carrying with it some of the non-volatile residue. Kinda' puts into question the term "non-volatile residue," huh!?!!

SkyHighLer: I have a tank of Ecogreen here. I will be using the following procedure to distill it. Please advise if any steps could be done better. I will post a report when done. I am waiting for some parts but should be able to start in about 7 to 10 days.

1: Turn supply tank upside down to distill straight from tank.
2: A spool will be the catch container. This will be in DI liquid bath.
3: The supply tank will only be heated as required to move the gas. It will be very slow passive distill. The supply tank will be keep as cold as the process will allow.
4: Repeat between two spools until the residue and smell are gone.

Any suggestions to do this any better? I wonder if people have fouled their recovery tanks by putting dirty gas in them. Is this why they can't get a clean run?

 

[krunchbubble]

SkyHighLer: I have a tank of Ecogreen here. I will be using the following procedure to distill it. Please advise if any steps could be done better. I will post a report when done. I am waiting for some parts but should be able to start in about 7 to 10 days.

1: Turn supply tank upside down to distill straight from tank.
2: A spool will be the catch container. This will be in DI liquid bath.
3: The supply tank will only be heated as required to move the gas. It will be very slow passive distill. The supply tank will be keep as cold as the process will allow.
4: Repeat between two spools until the residue and smell are gone.

Any suggestions to do this any better? I wonder if people have fouled their recovery tanks by putting dirty gas in them. Is this why they can't get a clean run?

Hope you dont have their green tank!

 

[A6 Grower]

I wonder if people have fouled their recovery tanks by putting dirty gas in them. Is this why they can't get a clean run?

Years and years ago when i got my first MKIII I hooked my can tapper up to the vacuum port and started filling my tank. With it hooked up that way my recovery pump was sucking the butane straight from the can into the tank skipping the distilling part. Newb mistake, but also was only following the givin instructions at the time. Back then distilling wasn't mentioned at all, kinda funny. This put a shit ton of shit oil into my tank and i found out it was basically impossible to remove and just got a new tank. So yes this is very possible if your distilling at a very high temp or just incorrectly if the oil gets into your main storage tank your fucked. I think i ran about 12 runs with garbage material trying to remove the oil and kept seeing some with the UV light. You can find my original post from 2012 i think in the MKIII thread asking wtf this oil is being left behind from the butane. ahh the memories lol

 

[GratefulOne]

Hope you dont have their green tank!

It is a dark green tank. Is there anything else I should be warned about?

 

[krunchbubble]

It is a dark green tank. Is there anything else I should be warned about?

Its contaminated with what they call "fatty acids", you can see the report a page or two back. Supposedly not toxic to humans, but you smoke the finished product and tell me how your lungs feel!

You can distill, distill and distill till you grow a cock out your forehead and it wont get clean...

Ive lost 2+ lbs of finished product thanks to Ecogreen!

I will NEVER use their shit again....

 

[GratefulOne]

While my wife could have use for a "unicorn" man I would rather not.

Krunch now has me thinking to return this and deal with other sources of butane.

 

[krunchbubble]

While my wife could have use for a "unicorn" man I would rather not.

Krunch now has me thinking to return this and deal with other sources of butane.

Don't think about doing it, RETURN THAT SHIT!!

Its not worth it!

 

[Hydrosun]

SkyHighLer: I have a tank of Ecogreen here. I will be using the following procedure to distill it. Please advise if any steps could be done better. I will post a report when done. I am waiting for some parts but should be able to start in about 7 to 10 days.

1: Turn supply tank upside down to distill straight from tank.
2: A spool will be the catch container. This will be in DI liquid bath.
3: The supply tank will only be heated as required to move the gas. It will be very slow passive distill. The supply tank will be keep as cold as the process will allow.
4: Repeat between two spools until the residue and smell are gone.

Any suggestions to do this any better? I wonder if people have fouled their recovery tanks by putting dirty gas in them. Is this why they can't get a clean run?

DONT DO IT. Even after 10+ distills the stuff didn't taste as good as power 5.

Our vac ovens will get rid of ALL residual solvents, but that doesn't help if a taste additive is left behind. I don't want my meds to taste bad or even less than optimal.

EcoGreen gas is out, and will be delivered for testing but can tapping is my friend for a long time to come.

 

[A6 Grower]

Good ole can tappin has always givin me great results, even when using the cheapest cans i can find. Distill threw post ran material to give you some oil to help trap unwanted shit. Charcoal cant hurt either!