Butane Residue Test Results

[Gray Wolf]

Yes I am very disappointed that TERPP is silent on this issue.

I know some people who ONLY went to EcoGarbage because they were linked to and recommended by the sponsor of this forum.

I know that Terpp can't control EcoGarbage's terrible business practices, but they don't have to be shilling for / recommending them anymore.

Which business practices are you referring to?

 

[snake11]

Which business practices are you referring to?

I'm pretty sure he is speaking of ecogreen selling contaminated gas. Their gas is contaminated with an organic fatty acid that is ruining folks oil yet they still sell it to folks in our industry.

 

[SkyHighLer]

I'm pretty sure he is speaking of ecogreen selling contaminated gas. Their gas is contaminated with an organic fatty acid that is ruining folks oil yet they still sell it to folks in our industry.

"Pretty sure"? Test it yourself using my test.

Let me know guys if you find the podcast of the 2015 High Times Cannabis Cup Concentrate Panel talk and the Q&A session. You'll hear the experts tell you CLS extractors are only using 99.9999% pure butane from the bulk suppliers like Praxair, Airgas, and Matheson, and that it's been third party tested. And when I try and explain this just isn't reality, I'm shut up by Danny Danko for being confrontative and antagonistic.

Let's have a real BHO discussion panel at Chalice.

 

[snake11]

"Pretty sure"? Test it yourself using my test.

I'm sure ecogreen gas is bad. I said i'm pretty sure this is what the quoted gentleman said. I can't speak for certain regarding what another poster was meaning.

 

[Hydrosun]

Which business practices are you referring to?

selling solvents as medical grade with unknown contaminates, and not disclosing such to consumers.

Causing MANY end users to produce extractions BELOW medical grade, costing everyone involved time and money.

I am all for caviet emptor, as well as allowing EcoGarbage to make good on their disastrous public release of their PROPRIETARY 70/30 blend.

EcoGarbage knew of the flaw in their product and KNOWINGLY shipped it causing immense yet AVOIDABLE consequential damages.

Many on this forum went the extra, extra, extra, mile and distilled their defective product several times.

EcoGarbage should make good, but instead they appear to be avoiding their effected customers.

 

[Rotel]

selling solvents as medical grade with unknown contaminates, and not disclosing such to consumers.

Causing MANY end users to produce extractions BELOW medical grade, costing everyone involved time and money.

I am all for caviet emptor, as well as allowing EcoGarbage to make good on their disastrous public release of their PROPRIETARY 70/30 blend.

EcoGarbage knew of the flaw in their product and KNOWINGLY shipped it causing immense yet AVOIDABLE consequential damages.

Many on this forum went the extra, extra, extra, mile and distilled their defective product several times.

EcoGarbage should make good, but instead they appear to be avoiding their effected customers.

Are there any documented analysis of this product in order to determine what these impurities might be? I'm not disputing the reports of users that have had issues, just curious to see some actual lab results should they exist. It would sure put an end to any debate by reasonable minds.

 

[Hydrosun]

Are there any documented analysis of this product in order to determine what these impurities might be? I'm not disputing the reports of users that have had issues, just curious to see some actual lab results should they exist. It would sure put an end to any debate by reasonable minds.

the OP has agreed to test the stuff. I just need to get the bottle to him.

No official results, besides EcoGarbages lab results released AFTER the complaints began.

 

[SkyHighLer]

the OP has agreed to test the stuff. I just need to get the bottle to him.

No official results, besides EcoGarbages lab results released AFTER the complaints began.

Where may I find "EcoGarbages lab results," please?

 

[Gray Wolf]

the OP has agreed to test the stuff. I just need to get the bottle to him.

No official results, besides EcoGarbages lab results released AFTER the complaints began.

I've obviously missed some of the action since I had two different lots from Ecogreen analyzed, without the results currently under discussion.

I didn't look at 99.9% R-600A refrigerant as medical grade either, just at what else was in it and how much. The residuals were within their stated range and none were within levels of health concern.

I do know from discussing the results of the first lot I tested with Sean, that he was looking for a supply of higher grade butane and propane, because what residuals that were present, were pungent.

Sean is looking to build his business and reputation, so one possibility is that he changed vendors to improve the product and got caught with his pants down by non uniform product and insufficient sampling lot size.

Anyhoo, if you will get the tank to SH for residuals testing so we have an order of magnitude, I will contact Sean and find out what is going on.

If you already have a copy of the lab analysis, and will share a copy, it will save me $350 just to see what the constituents are.

 

[Hydrosun]

Eco, has posted their lab letters. I think it was vividavis who had the pdf and posted it up.

I will track down the pdf so we can post it here. The mostly full 70/30, never burped or flipped upsided down, is in Vegas just a few hundred miles from SH.

I will work on getting it a ride over to his place!



PS Sean is building his business reputation, right now that business owes me thousands of dollars for wasted time and ruined work product because of their intentional distribution of KNOWN faulty goods. When you speak to Sean explain to him that I passed the bar exam, not for fun but for personal situations just as this... Also let him know that I don't go around making shit up.

 

[snake11]

Sean is looking to build his business and reputation, so one possibility is that he changed vendors to improve the product and got caught with his pants down by non uniform product and insufficient sampling lot size.

It sucks for ecogreen that this happened to him but he has shown his character by selling the tainted gas and ignoring his customers. It is one thing if he got caught with his pants down but he continues to sell the gas to fatten his wallet. I have bad oil from this experience but I didn't sell it to customers, I just considered it a loss. This is what ecogreen should have done also instead of peddling this shit gas. Not the kind of companies we want involved in our industry. Also it is butane,propane, and the mix.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Yeah Sean told me the same thing in Santa rosa at the HT cup last year. Is there just no clean supply of gas available to us "criminals" anywhere?

 

[BrainChild]

anyone tried http://refinedhydrocarbonsolutions.com/?

 

[OG_TGR]

No, you dont....

Boycott...

And use what? Be stuck with having to use individual cans from MC packaging, and still not know what I am getting?
I mean, even if there is an issue with the smell, can't this be refined/distilled, after starting with a product that is shown to have some of the lowest amounts of contaminants in the first place??

Is there just no clean supply of gas available to us "criminals" anywhere?

How is one supposed to keep up with this? I specifically had the intention of getting EcoGreen as I had seen Grey Wolf recommend it, and now I should boycott them, instead?

 

[krunchbubble]

And use what? Be stuck with having to use individual cans from MC packaging, and still not know what I am getting?
I mean, even if there is an issue with the smell, can't this be refined/distilled, after starting with a product that is shown to have some of the lowest amounts of contaminants in the first place??

How is one supposed to keep up with this? I specifically had the intention of getting EcoGreen as I had seen Grey Wolf recommend it, and now I should boycott them, instead?

I dont think you get it. Ecogreens KNOWN contaminated solvent against cans of Butane that you CAN see tests on in this thread?

I have 2 lbs, yes pounds of shatter that is unusable after 20+ hours of distilling and $200+ of dry ice...

I have since gone back to a very pure butane cans till I can find a better source...

If you could only TRY this difference between the poisoned Ecogreen and the butane can runs...

 

[Rotel]

The consensus is to ditch the ecogreen.

 

[SkyHighLer]

actually after reviewing the data it looks like neon 5x would be the way to go?

Or whip-it! 5X at this time...

I'm not heading up to NorCal, but Sean is welcome to come on down here, and I'll show him how simple the test is to do. It provides residue weight/percentage, color, and odor information, for free.

 

[Sunfire]

So is it just the blend that's contaminated? I just got some tanks of their new shipment of n-tane. I havnt got my system put together yet so I can't distill and test yet. Has anyone distilled any of their most recent shipment of n-tane? Came in middle of last week.

 

[Rotel]

You will get paint chips and such in the distil so tap into the extractor so you can clean that particulate out post distil.

Low temps will leave pentane, hexane and such in the trash bin, too warm and they can easily evaporate and condense in your cleaned tane storage.

 

[Sunfire]

If the cans have a seem, tap them there where there is no paint.

Ok I'm going to rig up a way to distill this fresh batch of n-tane from ecogreen. I asked a friend to do it as well. I will post pics and results as well. I'm praying it will be clean and maybe the contaminated part is on behalf of the propane, I have other reasons to think this but not positive. I'll do this tomorrow first thing!