Best blueberry?

[afropips]

Sorry Liberator,
I did jump the gun a bit there.
I should have said I don''t beleive you because your timing
& choice of thread.
I suspected the real reason for posting such a malicious opinion
was due too & as you have testified a pucker DJ Supporter.
+ this is The thread to discuss the variuos BB's on offer.
I only reported my BB opinions based on my experience.
I have heard that DJSs BB used to be good.

Are you sure your African grows were identical & that they
received the same amount of cure?

If you like to discuss Malawi please go the appropriate
Afropips Q&A forum.

Zikoma Kwambili & Cool Runnings.........

 

[Guest]

I've got no real interest in getting involved in a row, but to say that the above pics are exactly what you would expect a strongly psychedelic sativa to look like - i.e. unusually large calyxes, such as you will also find on powerful Thai strains, which incidentally are also reported to share the characteristic of high THCV levels

there is a fair amount of Highland Thai background to Blueberry, as on the female side it descends from a Thai x Oaxaca cross
Thai sativas often have fairly large mottled seeds

Malawi Gold also has failry large seeds

as it happens large, convex, slightly elongated seeds were given as the defining feature of a sativa, as given by Richard Evans Schultes who originated the distinction Cannabis sativa / Cannabis indica

he describes the defining seed shape of indicas as being very small and almost spherical

though in reality of course seed size varies grealty between strains within each putative "species", regardless whether you call the plant "indica" or "sativa"

incidentally - growth deformities, such as irregular leaf shapes, reduced germination rates, and reduced vigour are simply all characteristics you would expect in an inbred or true-breeding line created from relatively small populations after it has been around for some time... it is hardly suprising that most Blueberry lines show these characteristics now

liberator, it is pointless trying to slag off Afropips' Malawi Gold: everyone knows that is what Malawi strains looks like, and that it makes excellent smoke

I don't wish to appear to be taking sides in this issue - you can read any DJ Short article and see that he is on the side of high quality landrace cultivars, and he also believes that they are the only type of plants which should be used to start a breeding project, and in a 100% pure form

one of the main things going for Malawi Gold is the vast size of the population which went towards its creation through centuries of breeding and selection, ultimately leading to an array of dominant genes with positive characteristics - likwise F1s created from it have extraordinary vigour

in reality you would expect the strongest plants in the world to show up within the populations of ancient landrace cultivars
this has certainly been my experience when smoking and travelling over the years

anyway, I am sure there are fantastic Blueberry lines around, and will be long in the future -

as people with interest in these wonderful plants we shouldn't be trying to undermine each other - instead we should share ideas, and be honest in our appraisal

peace all,

Namkha

 

[JLP]

Dutch Passion is basically a knock off company similar to Nirvana or Home Grown Fantaseeds only more exspensive.They rely almost entirely on other peoples hybrids for working stock.
According to DJ they got BB from him.

Here's a link where he lays it out.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=9788

JLP

 

[Capt. Crip]

No JLP,comapany one was Sagarmatha Seeds,DP was company #2...
DJ gave henk 50 seeds to make selections for DP's Blueberry...It was Tony Sagarmatha that burned DJ...Henk just paided the minimum amount DJ would except as I read it..

I've grown several packs of both and the DP is good but farther between special plants and leans more heavily towards the Afghani end of the spectrum..
DJ'd old line grew many more keepers for a givin' amount..

Take care................................CC

 

[TORC]

Yea JLP, I'm with Capt. on this one. Henk paid for his seeds, bare minimum price(wouldn't we all try to do this), grew them out and let DJ test the finished product. He was not involved in plant selection. Sagamartha took the seeds and never paid for them.

 

[JLP]

Thanks for the clarification Crip.I forgot Sag was a knok off company too,I guess they are rip offs as well,according to DJ.I doesn't sound like DJ was looking forward to working with any of those companies twice.

Not may breeders start from scratch like DJ does.

JLP


PS :Hey Crip,if you like the BB you should try RM's Blueberry Sativa S1 if he still has any,pretty consistent stuff.

 

[Kenny Lingus]

REEFERMAN - BLUE THUNDER (BB satxKodiak f9-lavender)

REEFERMAN - BLUE THUNDER (BB satxKodiak f9-lavender)

Have only grown out 3 femmes of the Reeferman Blue Thunder (think it's a Prairiefire Blueberry Sativa x Kodiak9 Lavender)

Had slight hermie tendencies and finished in 8-9 weeks. (Edit: must mention that only one hermied all 3 runs, and the 2 others were a little stressed by cramping, nuteburn, temperaturestress, etc...)
Plants were kinda tall and lanky. All had moderate/average yeilds compared to others. Tight and long bud are growing symetrically from nodes spaced a bit apart from oneanother. All over symetrical plants.
They smelled quite alot, but it's a soothing, smooth and dank odour. Towards the end of bloom I had sweet scented pot-plants. All three produced rockhard purplish nugs with a hint of yellow/green in between calyxes, and they were popping out of strong, but slender and red-tinged violet coloured stems.

Taste is musky and sweet (mild and nothing special actually. Though it will get very mellow and sophisticated after 3-6months curing. Some more expandation appears for example.) I hadn't had any true berry flavoured phenos yet.

It's quite a stoney creeper high. It ain't too paralyzing or numbing for the body, nor mind. Think the effect is mostly mental. But I also found it to have a pleasant relaxing effect on muscles twice and even calm an upset stomach. I really haven't smoked it enuff to examine its medicinal properties yet.
-The "euphoric" effect of this herb vanishes smoothly into nothing within 2-4 hours, but it's taste have often made me refill over and anew.

Sad to see it's so hard to get a satisfieing BB from seeds. (A shame the flaming of breeders though I can understand the bitter feeling of having paid money -and TIME- to grow out a mediocre smoke and risk pollinating a whole batch with it... -I even get pissed if free seeds doesn't match expectations. And at least if they cause trouble.)

PS! I was about to grow BB's from Black Label Seeds, but those were presents/salary from Soft Secrets UK and got to me in a thousand pieces. SAAAAAAAD (...or maybe just a case of lucky coincidence. Who knows?

I have tossed/lost the BT's and I find myself missing it every now and then. (My last 1,5g sample is veeeeeeeeery tempting you see....) -Well: I'll certainly plow deeper through my RM Blue Thunder package, so I'm nothing near frightened from growing these yet.

Good luck with all you peoples hunt for the sacred blue hued, berry tasting herb

 

[fredster420]

I can tell you this about DJ's BB

The Highend that DJ & Legend's combined on using DJ's new BB male was KILLER & one of my fav grows of 2005-6 - their is a black pheno in there that is WAY DANK - the yield could have been better (longer veg) - but the smoke was World Class
http://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=54&products_id=770

& the the joint project between Chimera Seeds and DJ Short of Mountian Jam also using DJ's BB is ALSO ONE OF MY FAVS & a great all-around plant/grow = I would/want to MOM one of them out for my garden = I loved my MJam
http://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=59&products_id=763


Mountian Jam


I have run just about all of the Blue's & my personal best came from = TRC....period



^ = RM's BT - V good smoke but = hermied a lot & I had one that was weeeed = won't run them again

 

[SuperBudz]

cant wait to try dj shorts true blueberry heard its the bomb if you find that good mother =)

 

[TeeKoon]

Sag BB

Sag BB

here's some pics from Sag BB that I grew few years back.

 

[Guest]

New pack DJ Blueberry

New pack DJ Blueberry

Hey, folks I, gonna get to the bottom of this thing come late Feb.Just ordered DJ's "new" blueberry from seedbay.I will grow it out in organic soil mix and find the truth for myself.I'm also giving Afropips his chance too cause I don't believe much until I see it(except from you folks of course).The battle is on.PEACE!!!MUCHA LUCHA!!!

 

[Guest]

is this a waste of time?

is this a waste of time?

I only grow for entertainment and most of my shit ends up in the fire.I like the smell of fresh weed and a bit of smoke.Am I pissing into the wind on this one??PEACE!!MUCHA LUCHA!!!

 

[Guest]

on what one?

Sounds like you are doing the right thing for me - i.e. finding out for yourself

cheers,

Namkha

 

[- ezra -]

Here we go again - Afroprick and his anti DJ Shorts bullshit again. His total experience with these strains is based on 2 packs of beans half of which he couldn't even germinate. And on top of that the most rediculous fact is that:

AFROPIPS SELLS A BLUEBERRY HYBRID!

I mean come on, splash yourself in the face with some cold water mate! And in his defence he will say no I would never make an evil DJ shorts blueberry cross, no his blueberry is from DP (which is of course everyone knows is an inferior version and from DJ's stock).

In conclusion: Afropips is a frign joke, he is also a (balmy) Englishman (i.e. not in Africa) and a poor grower, and certainly not a "breeder" more of a seed hack/pollen chucker. His opinion is far from expert and his motives questionable.

PS - regarding the original topic of this thread, I would say the best blueberry at the moment is probably the TB. I am very much looking forward to the next round of new DJ releases with the Blueberry Sativa being one to look out for.

 

[afropips]

Hiya Ezra,
If that isn't blatant flaming then I do not know!
If anythings DJ is the pollen chucker with the minute
seeds produced & the end results as testified by many BB mutant growers.
The problem was not germing the pin head seeds but what they produced.

Another DJ breeder supporter joins in Afropip bashing, Whoo hooo
Tell me Ezra you dont even know me so where do get off on this BULLSHIT.

It seems to me you want to spread shite,
Literally & figuratively.

You have not even sampled Afropips.

EZRA if you are so hot why do you not take all your time out to do what I am doing for cannabis & then come to UK & see how lovely it is for cultivation.

I have been here in UK since the year 2000 prior to that all the years I spent In
Africa searching for the best quality & taste of the different varieties possible.
A Balmy Southern African Maybe!

BB can not be compared to BB thay are 2 different varieties to meet opposite ends of the "Buzz" spectrum.

Childish Name calling gives you away.

The fact is I offer a Malawi BB Hybrid .
Get your facts straight!

Cool Runnings.....

PS:Now those pics of the SAG BB look like what I am looking for.
A BLUE budded plant that was named for the Blue colour & not the taste.

 

[TORC]

Get yourself some food coloring and save the rest of us from your un-informed bs. Warm droppings......

 

[afropips]

Torc another Afrohater!
Please save us from continually promoting & spreading DJs
Mutants in the forums.
You are Monkeying around with the planet!

Cool Runnings........

 

[JLP]

If every time I grew a strain that didn't turn out the way I wanted,and I got on the boards and started flaming the breeder then I'd be the biggest troll on the internet.
I grow strains that don't produce what I'm looking for but I see others getting fantastic results from the same seeds.You can be the greatest grower in the world but luck will always play a roll in your garden.
There are mutants in the BB line,this has been well known for some time,there are also some truly beautiful ones.

JLP

 

[JLP]

As I understand it,the Old Time Moonshine is a F5 of Blueberry.

JLP

 

[JLP]

One of my favorites is the F-13,which also contains mutants.

JLP