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Best blueberry?

TORC

Active member
Mr. Nevermind said:
I do think that Blueberry was from Oregon and Dj just made it available , in an unstable form. My best friend i s legal grower in Or and he has had a clone of Dabney blueberry that he has had for 6-7 years and they guy he got it from has had it for over 10 years. So i would say that blueberry , a real bluebery that taste and smells like blueberry with no mutants or hermies does exist. DJ's is just a watered down version of real blueberry. He brought out all the worst traits of it and released ti to the world.






Nevermind
DJ is the creator of Blueberry. It began in the mid 1980's. He did not just make it available, he created it. :joint:
 

l_d_d

Active member
^^^^ Thats what I thought too... as far as the commercialy released seedline.

Look at the OPT used to breed the strain, mutant like a mofo!

edit: I like the OPT and just saying/agreeing with the point that the mutants prolly aint all bad. :smoke:

" As for the so-called mutants, they are often the stoniest and the ones that taste most BB like. All these people who cull the so-called mutants are missing the boat. They often grow out of them, especially the mother plants. And if they don't, so what. Mutated leaves do nothing to the quality of the bud or the growth of that bud."
 
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l_d_d

Active member
Ya it kinda is ethereal... but not too bad man..

Btw, I have never even grown out a dj short seed, so my opinion isnt worth much in that aspect really!.... I have grown several blueberries and OPT though... and have respect for Dj and his work.... thats all.

I have grown TRC blueberry and can agree that Lone's gear is great... man fuck. :badday:
 

Rosy Cheeks

dancin' cheek to cheek
Veteran
namkha said:
150 dollars plus for 10 seeds is a pisstake, doubly so if they are inbred to the point of atrophy

with a price tag like that I would expect 100% germination and 200% quality


for the price of 4 packs of those seeds I could fly to SE Asia and back and have the seeds of the most pukka Thai grass you could imagine, straight from the hilltribes, who wouldn't charge me a cent for them.

Yes, seed prices is something relative, read abstract.

In November 2004, a woman thought she saw the image of Virgin Mary toasted in a grilled cheese sandwich, and promptly placed it for sale on ebay. It got a lot of press and was sold for $28,000. Was it worth it?

You might say no, but someone said yes.

150$ is nothing to a Brooklyn crash cropper that sells his bud 50$/g and a major investment for a poor amateur grower.
Prices are neither too high or low, they are what the market decides they can be sold for, in fact, what a large enough number of growers concider them worth.

YOU decide the price of the merchandise by buying or not buying it.

YOU provide the hype about strains in the forums, that convince other growers to buy or not buy.

And with YOU, I mean all of us.

As to the Blueberry, well, I grew Dutch Passion's BB in hydro and she was fuzzy, compared to most strains I've grown. I conder her a good high and a great smeller, worth the 50 Euros I paid, and that's it.

namkha, you could perhaps PM me the phone number to your hilltribe contact in Thailand, I'm interested in their services (lol). I bought a bag of 250 seeds - a heady Cambodian Sativa - in Siem Reap for $5. And that was tourist price.

Please continue the pie throwing...
 
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G

Guest

lol hiya RC - in my experience of being in the Northern doi mobiles work only sporadically, and more to the point you don't need contacts, just to be chilled and know a bit of Thai and about Thailand - and ideally a bit of common sense...
smokers chill with smokers there, same as everywhere else - and when is it ever the commercial growers who have the best weed?

and I honestly think we should make a noise and prevent prohibition and greed from pricing ordinary people out of growing decent strains - we should demand quality for our money, because if we don't then we run the risk that even this haven of sanity could turn from word of mouth into a marketing orgy (such as in modern pop etc.)

cheers,

Namkha
 
I'm also having problems with quality plants from the BB from DP and the G-13 BB sativa from reef. My experience with anything BB is that there are problems genetically with the seedlings, some grow out of it some don't. You definetly don't get what you pay for in some cases. I'm sure that there is that one killer plant in most packs but you really have to have the time and patience to find them
 

liberator

New member
i love blueberry,i have tried many versions and hybrids and dj gear was always the best. the new line is just amazing and i would try them all if i could.
very potent,tasty,smelly weed that always gives me a smile.
i also love those mutants some of the best keepers come from those and after the mom gets to a certain age the deformation goes away and the cuts grow normal.
 
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afropips

Active member
Bullshit Liberator.
Lets see the side by side grows of the Malawi
with photos & smoke reports.
Seedsmans gear is African Seeds gear.
No Afropips competitors Malawi will ever
come close unless they have pimped my ride.

DJs gear may have been good but it's complete
shite Now.

Keep on topic RE: BB.

The Best Malawi Gold threads are else where.

Cool Runnings...........
 
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TORC

Active member
Here's a quote from Reeferman, "I have had no reports of mutations on the g13 x bb , infact there are some huge bushes on ic mag growing outdoors , The Oregon purple thai used to create blueberry is prone to this issue , the mutations will grow out and will massively catch up to everything around them and more often than not produce better product than the non mutated ladies .
I am sorry you are having trouble I am sure that this issue comes up in all blueberry strains and hybrids its strange that you got 4/4 on the mutant side but before you kill anything do some reading on potent purple and have a look at what came out of plants like you describe ."
RM
But I'm sure that A-Pips thinks RM doesn't know anything either;).
 

Capt. Crip

Strain Seeker/Mirage Reading Master
Veteran
Afropip,
Do you have any other purpose here other than spamming your gear?
Even in my thread "5 best from personal experience",all you did was come in and pimp your gear...No mention of the 5 best you have smoked just the 5 best Afropip selections.... :chin:
Look,I'm not trying to run ya down,just try to answer questions without slandering other breeders..You are not DJShort and will never be...He has been breeding a long time compared to yourself and his genetics wether mutated or not are world class..Stop talking shit about his new lines..
You are doing nothing but making yourself look dumb...
How is it that you know the other African genetics are not up to your standards?Have you grown them?If yes,why?If you already have the best why grow others gear?

I need to run your shit to see what all the huffs about!!Could you stand hearing an honest opinion?My next order is going to include 2 of your "pure" strains and believe me when I say I'm doing reports on both!!!Yes,I will include the Malawi that you talk so highly of.......

Take care all.................................CC
 
Hey everyone

Just saw my old posts in this thread from back in FEB. Well since then i finished that DJ blueberry grow and have a solid conclusion. This was top quality smoke 100%. It didnt smell or taste exactly like blueberry but man....The high! This has taken over as my favorite strain so far. Strong yet clear, with a great taste and bag appeal. I had two great females with no mutant or hermie traits. Oh how i wish i had cloned them!!!

However, I did seed them with two bluberry males i had. Heres what i have learned from them. Even though both moms were great plants the seeds i grew out from this cross have been horrible so far. Almost no trichome production and a shitty rotten smell. Im not sure if i can even smoke this stuff! From what ive read on the DJ forums, the reason is DJ doesnt backcross his plants. So I guess the killer genes are in there somewhere but i may have to go through quite a few to find a good plant. Oh well i dont mind.

I did also cross the same blueberry males to two sensi afghani #1s. Out of five females i got, all had the crinkle leaves and they are pretty uniform. they been flowering for about 2 weeks and i can tell trichome production on these plants will be amazing. Already coating stems and underside of leaves. This cross excites me.

Its weird though how both the blueberry moms and afghani moms were awesome. But the crosses differed so much even with the same dads.
 

afropips

Active member
Hiya A-Pip Haters,
the mutations will grow out and will massively catch up to everything around them and more often than not produce better product than the non mutated ladies.

Is a poor excuse for including mutants in the breeding selections
RM accused me of beeing a Nazi when I came on the seed
scene.
I wonder whose BB he used in his crosses!

It is unfortuanate that many seed producers
these days do not take the time to pollinate there
plants in such a way as to produce the largest , most vigorous
seeds possible & are more interested in there bank Balances
& looking good than the welfare of the cannabis plant.
It seems to me that Canabians on the forums are extremely Nationalistic
& will support the Canabian seed Vendors no matter what the quality of the
product at piss taking prices.

Capt Crip did you have anything to add regards the BB discussion or are you
trying to defend your countrymans Mutants & slander A-pips?

Your thread? ICmag thread you mean!
The 5 strongest I have tried are the 5 I listed.
Try them to see what you think by all means.

IMO your post makes you look Dumb & you do not know how long I have been busy with the plants which has no bearing on mutant selection & seed production.

The answer to your questions should be addressed elsewhere but
seeing that you are going off topic I will answer here.

I have no need to grow African Seeds stock because
I know the grade of cobs available to African seeds
that the seeds were selected from.
You can also ascertain a lot about the quality of the plants from the characteristics & size of seeds that are offered for sale.
Other growers on the forums have already ascertained the superiority
of A-Pips First Grade Malawi Gold.

The Pures really need the outdoor S Hemisphere outdoor grow for
best effect & I would suggest a Malawi Hybrid for the potentest
effects from a N Hemisphere Indoor Grow.

I suggest you stick with your Endemic varieties
that you selected from visiting hundreds of growers
over a 10 year period.

Cool Runnings.............
 

Capt. Crip

Strain Seeker/Mirage Reading Master
Veteran
It's not that people hate you,it's the fact that your head is so hard...
You can only see things your way and have no intentions of trying to see from others point of view..
You say DJ's gear is "shite",you stand nearly alone with this comment..99% of the people who grow his stuff love it..I've grown a lot Blueberry from seed and have also grown well over 200 strains since I started purchasing/aquiring seed and I can say that his gear is top notch...Also the DP version is very good although you may have to grow a few to find the "one"..
Talking shit about his gear does you no good..It's not helping other growers..
Let them try for themselves..I wouldn't say shit to you but for the fact that you are always coming into Blueberry threads bashing the creator of the strain. Letting the folks know they should try afropips gear,what is it"for the best in African landraces and hybrids"...What does this thread have to do with your strains for sell??
Not only do you bash DJ but you also bash African seeds and Seedsman!!!
Does this seem OK to you?
If you feel the need to "pimp" your gear at every turn fine...But why don't you leave the bashing of others out of it...It makes you look jealous!

It seems odd to me with all the gardens and growers you have visited all over Africa that you have not smoked any herb out there stronger than your personal varieties ??? :confused: Nothing out there stronger in all your travels? :confused: :chin: Just seems odd is all...
And now you are telling me that I will not get excellent results growing(with the pure Malawi) in the northern hemisphere OR indoors??? :chin:I live in one of the hottest,most humid places in North America...During the summer you can sit in the shade and sweat buckets!!My growing season is 7 to 8 months long..With 3 of those months miserably hot!Why is it that you do not think your gear will grow well here?
Just curious?
Thanks..
Take care..........................CC
 

afropips

Active member
Capt Crip,
Talking shit about his gear does you no good..It's not helping other growers..
Let them try for themselves..I wouldn't say shit to you but for the fact that you are always coming into Blueberry threads bashing the creator of the strain. Letting the folks know they should try afropips gear,what is it"for the best in African landraces and hybrids"...What does this thread have to do with your strains for sell

Is False as I only mention my true experiences.
It might not do me good but from my experiences
& knowledge Mutants fuck with the overall well
being of the cannabis gene pool.
What I stand for & am working towards is
being undermined by mutant breeders &
all you folk that support these breeders.
Afropips only gets mentioned when Afro Slanderers
bring up my stock in the thread Like you are doing now.

I am not bashing DJ or others but discussing the quality & comparing
the varieties for the facts to be heard.
(many agree that mutants suck & should not be released)
I do not have any more under cover of a name avatars & Nationalistic
Supporters so I have to do the graft myself.
Especially when Afrostock is being slandered & dissed because I talked out the truth
regards some of my bad bean producing competitors.

The Best African varieties I have come across have been utilised & combined
for indoor growing. My best Personal Varieties stem from these specially selected plants
does not seem odd to me.

Neither was I telling you that you will not get excellent
results if you grow Malawi Gold Indoors but the best results can be achieved in the Southern Hemishere Outdoors.
North American climate is Alien to me but I understand the climate
is like UK further North where the miserable weather & lack of sunshine
does not produce excellent results outdoors for the longer flowering varieties.
(quantity of product is also small compared to growing indoors with the same size plants at harvest)

Cool Runnings........
 
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l_d_d

Active member
is this an afropips seeds thread? :chin:

is this an afropips seeds thread? :chin:

Hiya everything but a-pip hater :wave:


You are doing nothing but making yourself look dumb...
:yes:

Different strokes for different folks quit acting like a child. Youve stated your opinion, no need to argue with others or call bullshit on anothers opinion... cuz in my book THAT SHIT doesnt make yours worth much. :D
 
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afropips

Active member
Thanks AfroHater'
More False assumptions + threats of damaging Afropips Rep.
Funny this is the first I here of your Afropip & African seeds Malawi Grow.
What has that got to do with BB Mutants.

If you wish to purchase from the middleman be my guest & order from
Seedsman.

What makes you think that Afropips are not from the source
& that African seeds based in SA had the First Grade MG.

Tell us about your Malawi Travels & post some trees in the Afropips forum
if you do not have a competitive hidden agenda.

Why do you think I plug MG - its because Malawi is my second home
& I prefer to see the people of Malawi benefitting from the sale Of MG than some Western Seed Biz middleman.

Cool Runnings........
 
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