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Best blueberry?

l_d_d

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Dabney is great, but Berks Blueberry, which I believe is a dj version, aint no chump.... I cant say I like one better than the other.... they are both excellent.... the Berks I think smells slightly more like blueberries, and is much much quicker and a little frostier.... The Dabney gets bigger buds buyt not as dense imo, and is a tad more potent. I cant at all say one is better but just chimin in as to not all Dj stuff.. if this is Dj.... isnt comparable to the Dabney imho... common? prolly not at all by any means... again I dont know the background on Berks.

Ive never grown themj side by side though, just hydro Berks and organic Dabney... and Iv havent been able to dial the Dabney in, yet, as she does liek to really really eat and I pollenated her once.

I dont know where Berks BB came from but I think its a Dj version and its definetly on the level with the Dabney imho..... Have quite a few Ole Blue Bx seeds by Romulator that have been veggin up... thinkin ill hit both clones if I find a good male :sasmokin:
 
G

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afropips said:
Hiya,
I would recomend the DP Blueberry.
Far more potent than the latest DJ Blues
without the F***ed Malformed Mutants.

You will be able to find 10 good plants in the DP stock if it is the
same as in year 2000.
You be lucky if you get a couple of sprouts from a DJ 10 pack.

DJ is overhyped & overpriced IMO.

Cool Runnings.........

Hmm thats funny, I coulda swore that DP's blue IS DJ's blue but from a much smaller selection. Also look at the reports on both, DJ's is always reccomended over DP's. Why have a copy if you can get the real thing? If you can get the dabney, then definately go for it, but if you can only get seeds, DJ's is the way to go. Best of luck

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hilljack

Active member
afropips said:
Hiya,
I would recomend the DP Blueberry.
Far more potent than the latest DJ Blues
without the F***ed Malformed Mutants.

You will be able to find 10 good plants in the DP stock if it is the
same as in year 2000.
You be lucky if you get a couple of sprouts from a DJ 10 pack.

DJ is overhyped & overpriced IMO.

Cool Runnings.........

:yoinks: DEJA VU? :yoinks:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30253
 

afropips

Active member
Thanks MarijuanaMessiah for
giving me some more bad reps that don't mean diddly squit.

When will you learn that Mutants should not be Tolerated.

Thanks for making aware the True Blue thread.
I was going to bring it up myself so I could
answer back to all the DJ Propaganda Peeps lies
& attempts at defending the DJ BB Mutants.

Trying to defend the mutants with the excuse
that you can only find one mother in a pack is BullShit.

I scored DP's BB in 2000 & had a perfect pack.
No Mutants & No Hermies.
They do not smell or taste like BB & were not
the purple phenos.
I used this BB in some Afropips crosses & hybrids with good results.

When I saw the DJ BB I figured I would improve the lines by introducing
the "Superior" DJ BB. I fell for the hype & propaganda ministers posts.
What a waste of time & money that was as all were malformed mutants.
Even the Flodica had one hermie plant.

Those are the facts & nothing to do with spreading negativity.
All the DJ propaganda peeps slandering Afropips are supporting the
Very popular & Great $ maker to the cannabis gene pools detriment.
These DJ worshippers continually spread the lies regards How Great
DJ's Gear is while f***ing with the planet.

I would swear/suggest that the original stock while DJ & DP
were working together was without mutants.
After the split & several inbred generations later
we end up with what DJ offers today.

Raco my Ace CannBio Supporter & competitor -
Crappy is just the opinion of the grower/smoker but
Malformed Mutants are a different story.

Cool Runnings.......
Actually it more like the Tour de France!
 
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TORC

Active member
Afropips, are you ensuring your own failure? Yet again you come around bad mouthing DJ's work. If you don't like it, don't grow it. I think I'll go to your forum(probably be the first visitor today:)) and trash your work. Dj has done nothing but good for the cannabis community. His genetics are top shelf. Has it not occured to you, probably not, that what DP was looking for out of their 20 seeds was completely different than what DJ was/is looking for out of hundreds of BB. It would seem to me that someone who claims to be a breeder would know this. Keep making an ass of your classless self and you'll be shoveling shit at a game preserve before you know it.;)
 

afropips

Active member
When will you 2 DJ supporters
stop talking shite & calling names with threats
regards Afropips in the Afroforum + trashing Afropips
rep for no reason than just because
I point out my true blue experiences. (pun Intended)
( I am not the only one that have had DJ Mutants)

Why are you so adamnant that the latest batch of selected
mutants are beneficial to cannabis genetics?
I disagree with you - Any Responsible breeder will cull mutants &
not utilise them for breeding.

Any way this argument is like the GM foods argument.
You get the for & against.
I am Against! & lets leave the Bullshit at that.

Cool Runnings.......
 
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Raco

secretion engineer
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"Raco my Ace CannBio Supporter & competitor -
Crappy is just the opinion of the grower/smoker but
Malformed Mutants are a different story"

Afropips,
#1:I´m not the only one very dissappointed with DP´s BB...I feel like I was ripped-off,the seeds were true DP,green pack,I still have the envelope...
Some mentioned possible radiation in the mail or something...I don´t think so.FACT:except for one mediocre female,the rest were all the crappiest plants I´ve ever seen in my life...and I´m not a newbie!

#2:Why do you say "competitor"????
I´ve never badmouthed you,and you know that.I don´t buy seeds....I´m gifted much more than I can grow.I´ve never grown your seeds...but remmber that someone suggested you to give send me some....

#3:I always speak highly of both ACE & CBG because they not only are cool ppl...they genetics are awesome,and they have shared with me and vice-versa.I have nothing to do at all with their bussiness.:joint:
 
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Mr. Nevermind

afropips said:
When will you 2 DJ supporters
stop talking shite & calling names with threats
regards Afropips in the Afroforum + trashing Afropips
rep for no reason than just because
I point out my true blue experiences. (pun Intended)
( I am not the only one that have had DJ Mutants)

Why are you so adamnant that the latest batch of selected
mutants are beneficial to cannabis genetics?

Any way this argument is like the GM foods argument.
You get the for & against.
I am Against! & lets leave the Bullshit at that.

Cool Runnings.......



I dont see why people give Afro so much shit over voicing an opinion that he has based on growing a strain . I to have grown out blueberry from seed and my experiance is the same as Afros. Mutants, hermies and smoke that wasnt even close to blueberry.

I understand it looks bad for a breeder to trah anothers breeders work, but if if the breeder has grown it out then he is only talking from experiance. Hell , do a search, you'll find many members ( and breeders) who think his blueberry sucks based off of growing it out.

make all the excuses you want , but i think its a rip off for a "Master breeder" like DJ to release beans known to hermie and mutate just for the small chance of getting a mild blueberry herb. Selling beans known to hermie is not good breeding ethicss





Nevermind
 

afropips

Active member
Hi Raco,
I believe you have agreed with the Ace supporters bad mouthing
the pips in the OG forums. I may be wrong
But that is not the subject here & is Trivial.

The fact is you may think & many others may agree with you that the DP BB
is Crappy but were they all mutants?

Cool Runnings........

PS:Torc I have already shovelled shit at the game preserve.
We call it Zoo Poo & its great for cultivation.
 
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afropips

Active member
Hiya,
How come DJ claims being the originator of the BB
when the name is registered with DP.
All I see is here say & no proof.

Isn't claiming to be the originator of BB like claiming
to be the originator of Durban Poison?

I do not believe in copywriting plant material
but registering your creations
like artwork gives the creator some protection.

Cool Runnings.......
 

TORC

Active member
Mr. Nevermind said:
I dont see why people give Afro so much shit over voicing an opinion that he has based on growing a strain . I to have grown out blueberry from seed and my experiance is the same as Afros. Mutants, hermies and smoke that wasnt even close to blueberry.

I understand it looks bad for a breeder to trah anothers breeders work, but if if the breeder has grown it out then he is only talking from experiance. Hell , do a search, you'll find many members ( and breeders) who think his blueberry sucks based off of growing it out.

make all the excuses you want , but i think its a rip off for a "Master breeder" like DJ to release beans known to hermie and mutate just for the small chance of getting a mild blueberry herb. Selling beans known to hermie is not good breeding ethicss





Nevermind
Hey Mr. Nevermind, it's because he's like a broken record. I have personally grown out 2 of DJ's personal work and 2 of his joint projects, Sweettooth and Johnny Blaze. Have friends who continue to grow BB to this day. We have not had a single hermie out of 30 or so beans popped. As for the so-called mutants, they are often the stoniest and the ones that taste most BB like. All these people who cull the so-called mutants are missing the boat. They often grow out of them, especially the mother plants. And if they don't, so what. Mutated leaves do nothing to the quality of the bud or the growth of that bud.
 

afropips

Active member
Yeah! I am like the broken record thanks to dudes like TORC
who don' give a F*** about Mutants & will even try to tell you
that the DJ BB Mutants are the best tasting & most euphoric.

BULLSHIT!
 

SEEDYNONO

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Veteran
i think the point is in the past there were specimens grown from dj stock that were not mutant or hermie prone and retained the blueberry taste and a good indica stone. now a days all the sudden the only decently 'blueberry' tasting girls to emerge from the packs are all mutants with bad growth characteristics and that is a shitty thing. for over $100 a pack i believe you should be able to find healthy plants with no hermies and no mutants. if dj's prime bb plants were meant to be mutants he should say that openly. if they weren't ever meant to be there but somehow thats where the stock is now.. he should be honest about that too. it just doesn't make any sense to me that so many people say the mutants are the only good bb tasting smoke and the healthy green non mutants are less and less bb-like. the whole point is people want non mutant bb tasting dank plants and thats not been the absolute easiest thing as of late as documented by the hermie/mutant situations in dj's packs.

i'm going to grow out the dp bb and see how it goes. nothing about dj's packs that i've read actually make me want to pay more for it.
 

GOATNUTS

Member
SEEDYNONO said:
i think the point is in the past there were specimens grown from dj stock that were not mutant or hermie prone and retained the blueberry taste and a good indica stone. now a days all the sudden the only decently 'blueberry' tasting girls to emerge from the packs are all mutants with bad growth characteristics and that is a shitty thing. for over $100 a pack i believe you should be able to find healthy plants with no hermies and no mutants. if dj's prime bb plants were meant to be mutants he should say that openly. if they weren't ever meant to be there but somehow thats where the stock is now.. he should be honest about that too. it just doesn't make any sense to me that so many people say the mutants are the only good bb tasting smoke and the healthy green non mutants are less and less bb-like. the whole point is people want non mutant bb tasting dank plants and thats not been the absolute easiest thing as of late as documented by the hermie/mutant situations in dj's packs.

i'm going to grow out the dp bb and see how it goes. nothing about dj's packs that i've read actually make me want to pay more for it.

nailed it...
 
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Mr. Nevermind

TORC said:
Hey Mr. Nevermind, it's because he's like a broken record. I have personally grown out 2 of DJ's personal work and 2 of his joint projects, Sweettooth and Johnny Blaze. Have friends who continue to grow BB to this day. We have not had a single hermie out of 30 or so beans popped. As for the so-called mutants, they are often the stoniest and the ones that taste most BB like. All these people who cull the so-called mutants are missing the boat. They often grow out of them, especially the mother plants. And if they don't, so what. Mutated leaves do nothing to the quality of the bud or the growth of that bud.

I dont grow mutants, nor do i ever desire to. I dont see paying over $100 for a pack of beans that result in the best herb being from mutants. He should state on package they cause hermies and mutes and should charges less. since they arent worth $100. Noone should but out beans known to hermie or mutate



nevermind
 

Raco

secretion engineer
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" As for the so-called mutants, they are often the stoniest and the ones that taste most BB like. All these people who cull the so-called mutants are missing the boat. They often grow out of them, especially the mother plants. And if they don't, so what. Mutated leaves do nothing to the quality of the bud or the growth of that bud."

TORC,
Mine were runt,variegated,deformed etc.Some had a few calyxes only,not floral clusters...I agree that some had a nice smell,very distinctive,but if you ask me,I say:CRAP
I think that TRC Blueberry is very nice though :D


Afro,
I have never grown out nor sampled any of your products.My opinion is unbiased.
Well,perhaps it was the Timanfaya issue...wasn´t it?I´m not sure.
 

TORC

Active member
Sorry Raco, I was speaking from the one's that we have had. They were all just leaf "mutations". We've had none of the deformities that you describe. TRC's are very nice. They made some very good selections. Mr. Nevermind, I will agree with you on the price issue, however I don't believe that any seeds should cost $100, not just BB. But, that's just my dream:).
 
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Guest

yeh, I just have to chip in here

150 dollars plus for 10 seeds is a pisstake, doubly so if they are inbred to the point of atrophy

for the price of 4 packs of those seeds I could fly to SE Asia and back and have the seeds of the most pukka Thai grass you could imagine, straight from the hilltribes, who wouldn't charge me a cent for them

and I would be inclined to attribute whatever exceptional qualities the Blueberry may have had to the presence of Thai strains

with a price tag like that I would expect 100% germination and 200% quality

for 10 packs of those seeds I could fly to Thailand, then to Afghanistan and wherever else the ancesters of Blueberry came from etc etc.

by the way, I was under the impression that Blueberry line itself was originally cooked up in Oregon - can anyone confirm or deny that?

incidentally, an old friend of mine who just got back from SE Asia (via Portugal) just smoked some of Afropips Triple Treat ((Malawi Gold x DP Blueberry) x Sweet Tooth #3)) and said that the only comparable high he had ever experienced was from the Thaistick round Chiang Mai

my advice to the willingly gulled: get away from your PS2s and get your maps out - there's a big wide world out there

cheers all,

Namkha
 
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Mr. Nevermind

namkha said:
yeh, I just have to chip in here

150 dollars plus for 10 seeds is a pisstake, doubly so if they are inbred to the point of atrophy

for the price of 4 packs of those seeds I could fly to SE Asia and back and have the seeds of the most pukka Thai grass you could imagine, straight from the hilltribes, who wouldn't charge me a cent for them

and I would be inclined to attribute whatever exceptional qualities the Blueberry may have had to the presence of Thai strains

with a price tag like that I would expect 100% germination and 200% quality

for 10 packs of those seeds I could fly to Thailand, then to Afghanistan and wherever else the ancesters of Blueberry came from, and come back with the real deal

by the way, I was under the impression that Blueberry line was originally cooked up in Oregon - can anyone confirm or deny that?

incidentally, an old friend of mine who just got back from SE Asia (via Portugal) just smoked some of Afropips Triple Treat ((Malawi Gold x DP Blueberry) x Sweet Tooth #3)) and said that the only comparable high he had ever experienced was from the Thaistick round Chiang Mai

my advice to the willingly gulled: get away from your PS2s and get your maps out - there's a big wide world out there

cheers all,

Namkha



I do think that Blueberry was from Oregon and Dj just made it available , in an unstable form. My best friend i s legal grower in Or and he has had a clone of Dabney blueberry that he has had for 6-7 years and they guy he got it from has had it for over 10 years. So i would say that blueberry , a real bluebery that taste and smells like blueberry with no mutants or hermies does exist. DJ's is just a watered down version of real blueberry. He brought out all the worst traits of it and released ti to the world.






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