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any kiss users have exp. with veg+bloom

Bwanabud

Active member
This is from an article on drinking water that talks about slime.
http://articles.extension.org/pages/31555/drinking-water-contaminant-iron-and-manganese-bacteria
A problem that frequently results from iron or manganese in water is iron or manganese bacteria. These non-pathogenic (non-health threatening) bacteria feed on iron and manganese in water, forming red-brown (iron) or black-brown (manganese) slime

The most common approach to control iron and manganese bacteria is shock chlorination. It is almost impossible to kill all the iron and manganese bacteria in a system. In most cases, they will grow back eventually and the shock chlorination procedure will most likely need to be repeated from time to time. If bacteria regrowth is rapid, repeated shock chlorination becomes time consuming. Continuous application of low levels of chlorine may be more effective. Because chlorine changes dissolved iron into oxidized iron that will precipitate, a filter may be needed to remove oxidized iron if continuous chlorination is used to control iron bacteria.

Yes I've read that before, hell 1 more filter in my system may just make the ultraviolet method a better solution in the end.
 

Bwanabud

Active member
UPDATE: Checked my veg rez today, it was filled a week ago...it's crystal clear, no algae visible. It had GH Flora 2 part in it, hoping the MB will be the same way...looks like the Canna a+b has something in it that promotes my issue ?

Maxibloom to arrive on Wed, so should know pretty quickly if that's my "cure" :)
 

LostTribe

Well-known member
Premium user
started using the maxi veg for veg and love the simplicity and overall growth is very nice so far. Great deal on this stuff loving the kiss method although I will be flushing the shit out of them and switching to botanicare pbp line for bloom! Love PBP bloom nutes great yield, speed, taste, and high!

The 1 part powdered maxi veg is the shit so far though!

LT
 

Bwanabud

Active member
started using the maxi veg for veg and love the simplicity and overall growth is very nice so far. Great deal on this stuff loving the kiss method although I will be flushing the shit out of them and switching to botanicare pbp line for bloom! Love PBP bloom nutes great yield, speed, taste, and high!

The 1 part powdered maxi veg is the shit so far though!

LT

Why do you feel the need to "flush the shit out of them" ?

Is salt build up an issue ? I thought the beauty of KISS was to not use a bunch of products and additives ?
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
Veteran
I agree don't flush ever unless you have a bad problem. Just switch nutes one day and they will motor on instead of getting a flush shock. Last thing you want to do is wash away the cation balance with a water flush. Takes the coco forever to go back into balance and the plant suffers till it goes back to balance.
 
started using the maxi veg for veg and love the simplicity and overall growth is very nice so far. Great deal on this stuff loving the kiss method although I will be flushing the shit out of them and switching to botanicare pbp line for bloom! Love PBP bloom nutes great yield, speed, taste, and high!

The 1 part powdered maxi veg is the shit so far though!

LT

Do you use the pbp bloom or pbp bloom for soil? And at what dose
 

Aspenou812

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Veteran
Looks like they are calling the shine the same stuff as the Plus size.... Ok..... Has anyone tried the Push? Asking because I already have the Shine aka Plus Size... And am about to order the Ro Soft sho thought I would ask..... I have no intention of using the Plus Size aka shine anyway just wanted to get an opinion on the Push
 

justiceman

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Veteran
For a test I took almost a gallon R/O water and brought it up to .3EC with tap(as per instruction) to make it a full gallon and then I added 1g just to make a weak solution.

I still see some salts floating around. It's not very noticeable. I can just barely see them if I look through the gallon bottle with light behind it if you really pay attention but if you held it up and showed it to me quickly it would look clear. Water temp is 63F. Should I just not care?

I posted this a page or so ago. I brought my water temp up to 70+ and the same "problem" still happened. I don't know if it's bad or not. I do know that I've been using the ro/soft formula in pure coco regardless of the barely noticeable particulate on this DeadheadOG seedling this whole time and she looks amazing. So far I'd say it's doing a great job.

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dansbuds

Retired from the workforce Bullshit
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you'll see particles right after mixing , but they always desolve & go away after a little bit .
 

justiceman

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Veteran
you'll see particles right after mixing , but they always desolve & go away after a little bit .
I'm loving this nutrient so far. It works well and is very easy to use.

I can't wait to get my new tub of V+B RO Soft
Just started using it and I'm falling in love with its ease of use and results. Here are the roots I'm getting out of a 2 week old seedling with nothing but veg+bloom ro/soft and 100% coco:biggrin:

Shot Glass size Solo Cup
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Truthful

Member
Anyone get alot of foxtails towards the end?



I brought that up in this thread before apparently it's the growers fault for the foxtailing lmao that formula needs to be tweaked imvho their products are good but it's not a one part nute as told cause people have to add cal/mag and do other shit to it. I've been using NPK RAW Grow & Bloom and a couple other one parts on the market now and my nugs don't foxtail like they did with V+B, especially that HD.
 

dansbuds

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Anyone get alot of foxtails towards the end?

yeah we've been over this , but , its because of the heavy N content in the V&B because its a 1 part . if you cut the feeds in half the week before you start feeding plain water , your plants won't foxtail as bad . some strains haven't foxtailed at all at the end sense i started doing this .
 

t99

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Lowering the ec a few weeks before harvest will get rid of the foxtails. It's a very easy one part to use if you understand what the plants need during different stages of the flowering cycle. Read through the last 20 pages or so and you'll find the answers to most questions.
 

justiceman

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I can't speak for flowering with it yet, but I have not had to use any calmag whatsoever.

I follow the exact instructions(albeit a lower dose right now) with the RO/Soft formula

Here's a seedling in coco that's been getting it her whole life. Currently at 1.0EC(500ppm) Flash is a little bright.
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Seems to me like replacing SHINE with some of the base nutrient towards the end of flower would have favorable results with less foxtails.
 
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