300w LED organic noob journal

[Lunix79]

Ok...just done the Somango....even crazier!! The pH is a whooping 8.4!!! So, the reason the somango must be doing better to me must be:
1. Better seedling compost unmixed...but it's hitting the alkaline stuff now which is why it is starting to show probs
2. The plant is bigger, so now it is hitting the stuff it can cope a little better
3. The Somango is a little more resilient anyway than the others

So they all got a good rinse through with 6-6.4pH oxygenated water, the last lot a TINY touch of epsom salts and dol lime to see if they will take a little calmag in while the ph and oxygen in water allow it. i will do the flash
in acouple of days as I have run out of water...and energy!! I am not geared up to flush every plant in one go

i can't do anything with regards to planting more at least until the weekend...i shall probably be quite ruthless, I am still only 20 days in. though if I might suspect decenT survival (read above 10g) I might keep them. The somango should qualify, we shall see the others in a few days....

the other thing is...the soil should come down...i suspect the dol lime is what has caused the spike (they did start ranging 6-6.5 according to soil meter, which i sort of take as a good indication if not too precise atm), but the coffee and pellets should start releasing extremely soon and counter that....we shall see!!

a part of me is also tempted to nurse them all...not only because I am being an overprotective "parent"! It could be a quick lesson in soil management indoors and fixing things, after all, never had to before and would rather learn how plants react rather than concentrate just on the yield? But the Somango has to give me something to hang on for this to happen!! Oh...the Flash is also prob a photo as this seems to be prevalent from the more reviews I have read...so I could def nurse her better while. I grow a few more autos to almost completion...if I can nurse her well enough till weekend I will traNsplant into a different soil...

Anyhows...done what I can for the moment, time to see what happens over the next 6 days

chers guys, have a good beginning to the week

 

[Cheers]

stesso led...seguo!
e buon coltivo

Cheers

 

[Lunix79]

hey! come procede? non ho proprio capito tutto ma se non sbaglio il ph del terreno è troppo alto hai scritto giusto? ma non avevi il terreno canna plus?

Ciao!! Hai capito benissimo!

Ho il pH pazzamente alto! Penso sia uno dei prodotti (dolomite lime -una specie di calcare? Non so, qui è dove il mio italiano è leggermente limitato, cmq sono magnesio e calcio) che si sia "sciolto" prima degli altri. Quando ho cominciato infatti stavo fra i 6-6.5. Penso che come gli altri fertilizzanti fanno il loro, questo si ribilancerá. Mi aspettavo problemi di pH xkè ho mischiato parecchi ingredienti senza farli "cuocere" (in base alle temperature, minimo 4 settimane con i miei ingredienti). Pensavo che, siccome ho mantenuto quantità diminuite, non avrei avuto troppi problemi, ma mi sbagliavo :-/

Ora devo decidere cosa fare. Ho fatto una sciacquata con acqua e un piccolissimo feed di ca+mg mentre l'acqua ed il suo p h permettono un po' di assunzione...vedremo!

Comunque il Somango è pazzasco...sta a 8.4! Lo ricresco sicuro, è duraturo!!

Devo anche decidere cosa fare...fino a sabato nn posso fare niente, ma se è, pianto un pio di cose e levo la pink grapefruit e l'high density. Mi curo la flash mentre fiorisco il somango e intanto altre due piante...ancora da decidere se autofiorenti o no!

 

[Lunix79]

stesso led...seguo!
e buon coltivo

Cheers

Ciao Cheers! Benvenuto! Qui troverai un sacco di errori da seguire! Il mio primo coltivo serio indoor...ed ho peccato troppo di fretta! Ora ho provato a rimediare...le pinte hanno 5 gg x farmi credere che valga la pena continuare...ma la vedo dura x almeno due....vedremo!

Se cominci un thread, fammelo sapere, segui volentieri! Il Reflector è bellissimo devo dire!!

 

[Lunix79]

ok....So I have flushed the plants a few days ago...it definitely helped sort out the locked out soil...except now the plants have gone from clear cal/mag definceincy to proper nutrient burn!!!

These autos sure like weak soils - they will eb perfect for outdoors when weather permits!

So...did what I have been wanting to avoid...but had no choice - they have been repotted in week rooting seedling/clone soil...what happens happens, to me they are as good as no hope now and will not consider them with regards to giving any yield. The question is of course IF they survive!I might get something off the Somango...but won't make double figures! lol we shal see.

But I will keep them while I have planted a:
Purple Express Suto and a Nordika Auto.

This time in coco coir, small biodegradable cup...will leave it there up to prob the first week, then will plant it in either a 1 gal or a 3 gal, depending on if the other ones recover. Soil will be standard weak tomato organic peat soil mixed with some Canna terra pro...and that is it! The supersoil I will use as a top feed and, if I plunged for the 3 gal pots, maybe a tiny bit at the very bottom layer of the pot (but not at the core - I am having the tap root stay clear of everything!)

Here are the photos of the sorry plants. Let's not gforget they are day 28 and should start showing sexing...of course they are stunted...let's see what their genes will allow me to recoup:

 

[Lunix79]

New Beginnings

New Beginnings

Ok, as expected the repotting didnt go too well...the HD is no more, I think the PG will join it tomorrow/day after. The somango is showing greening signs, but is it too late? And the flash...well...i think it might've started growing again!! But not celebrating yt....

In the meantime...I have planted a Purple Express and a Nordika...the PE was born 3 days ago, the nordika today. In fact, i was panicking with the nordika, so i actually planted a white widow as well, but onky yesterday.

I have sprouted PE and Nordika in coco, the WW direct in organic seedling soil with mycorrhizal
If somango survives, i will plant all in 1gal again....but we shall see! Photos tomorrow

 

[OakyJoe]

Good luck for the next time! Want to see those Results with your MarsHydro LEDS!

Bless

 

[Lunix79]

Good luck for the next time! Want to see those Results with your MarsHydro LEDS!

Bless

Cheers mate
Funnily enough, the somango and flash are JUST showing signs of growth...we shall see! I tried to pull the PG..but she too must've done some root growth! Whether enough to survive for any of them...we shall see. The Flash might actually be a photoperiod, if it is and makes a comeback, i might get something decent of it

Anyhows...the Purple Express has already grown a taproot out of the bottom of the coco cup! That means in 6 days it's already longer than her predecessors ever were! So I've potted it in a 1 gal smartpot..it has a centre core of 80% coco and 20% RICH compost, about 40% vol of the pot. The rest is a reversed mix, 20% coco 80 RICH compost. She will be my test, the WW is directly in 1gal pot with normal seedling soil. Tomrw i will probably be moving the nordika in a bigger pot too, probably a mix again unless i find it in me to pull the PG

 

[Lunix79]

Cheers mate
Funnily enough, the somango and flash are JUST showing signs of growth...we shall see! I tried to pull the PG..but she too must've done some root growth! Whether enough to survive for any of them...we shall see. The Flash might actually be a photoperiod, if it is and makes a comeback, i might get something decent of it

Anyhows...the Purple Express has already grown a taproot out of the bottom of the coco cup! That means in 6 days it's already longer than her predecessors ever were! So I've potted it in a 1 gal smartpot..it has a centre core of 80% coco and 20% RICH compost, about 40% vol of the pot. The rest is a reversed mix, 20% coco 80 RICH compost. She will be my test, the WW is directly in 1gal pot with normal seedling soil. Tomrw i will probably be moving the nordika in a bigger pot too, probably a mix again unless i find it in me to pull the PG

And as promised...here are some pics

 

[Waterlab420]

What happened Lunix any progress?

 

[Lunix79]

What happened Lunix any progress?

Hi mate...long time, how r u doin?
For me, work happened and time is mentally short on supply atm!! :-/

The babas...not too good..were doing really well till third node, then.started yellowing, similar to other ones...tested ph, expecting alkaline...but was hovering around 5! From one extreme to the other...too impatient!

This time gonna let autos be for summer outdoors....
Mixed some canna terra + coco + EWC + pearlite....50-20-15-15% - keeping it simple, only added dolomite lime: just want a harvest! Will go back to experimenting later....final pH was 6.3, but i expect it will rise to almost 7 by the time the lime has done its thing. Even let coco sit with lime for a dew days to ensure it is nicely charged

So...so far have settled for a Mango pheno...will try rescue nordika (repotted in same soil as mango) and, if. I am lucky, the WW....if not successful, this weekend it will be a Spoetnik joining the Mango!

Will post photos when there is some action

 

[Waterlab420]

Hi mate...long time, how r u doin?
For me, work happened and time is mentally short on supply atm!! :-/

The babas...not too good..were doing really well till third node, then.started yellowing, similar to other ones...tested ph, expecting alkaline...but was hovering around 5! From one extreme to the other...too impatient!

This time gonna let autos be for summer outdoors....
Mixed some canna terra + coco + EWC + pearlite....50-20-15-15% - keeping it simple, only added dolomite lime: just want a harvest! Will go back to experimenting later....final pH was 6.3, but i expect it will rise to almost 7 by the time the lime has done its thing. Even let coco sit with lime for a dew days to ensure it is nicely charged

So...so far have settled for a Mango pheno...will try rescue nordika (repotted in same soil as mango) and, if. I am lucky, the WW....if not successful, this weekend it will be a Spoetnik joining the Mango!

Will post photos when there is some action

I'm good just growing a long! My autos are all done! Got a shit yield lol maybe 1.5 oz? Never again lol

But I started a grow in the "grow journal" section go check it out

I'm looking forward to some pics!

 

[Lunix79]

I'm good just growing a long! My autos are all done! Got a shit yield lol maybe 1.5 oz? Never again lol

But I started a grow in the "grow journal" section go check it out

I'm looking forward to some pics!

Lol, to be fair...i blame me! Someone who started same time as me got 100g/plant, very similar setup as well as far as light and soil go...they just need little or no attention!

Will be dropping by your new journal, hopefully will get a chance this eve!

 

[Waterlab420]

Lol, to be fair...i blame me! Someone who started same time as me got 100g/plant, very similar setup as well as far as light and soil go...they just need little or no attention!

Will be dropping by your new journal, hopefully will get a chance this eve!

That's pretty good. With auto flowers? Imo there a waste of space hahaha but I tried em! Lol sticking with the pheno types for sure!

 

[Lunix79]

That's pretty good. With auto flowers? Imo there a waste of space hahaha but I tried em! Lol sticking with the pheno types for sure!

With autos!! But like you, i am back to phenos...and the mango sprouted this morning

 

[Lunix79]

NEW SETUP!!

NEW SETUP!!

Ok, I have been away a while, as things were never working i have been studying and trying new things - dialling it in, I believe many call it

Another set of autoflowers remaining small and more plants struggling beyond 4th node....although I will prob at least get to taste the auto's flavour this time!!

The nice longer summer hours have allowed me to grow outdoors while indoors...including a lot of tomatoes...and I started getting some good answers...

Firstly, there really is no substitute for sunshine! It just gives plants everything they need...we have a lot to learn still for technology to catch up! But this is a whole different conversation!
anyways, for whatever reason, even outdoors tomatoes and weed were struggling in smartpots..due to lack of space, a lot tomatoes were planted in normal pots....and they were doing sooo much better!!! Strange, but that's my experience...

Then there is the light. I put some of the really struggling plants into the windowsill...and they recovered great! Slow at first (lesson learnt here too - the biodegradable pots now get transplanted with no bottoms ).

So, I now have made a,change - I now have a BUDMASTER II 300 OD I got very lucky with a top man giving it to me for trials with my tomatoes
And I have to say, the difference is remarkable! Not saying it was the reflector's fault by any means, as I have said, there were a number of factors I changed - but it is different class. i say this because when the first thing i changed was the light..and the seedlings stopped struggling, though still not thriving for the abovementioned reasons.

Now, i have also learnt that the LED in my space is a little too strong for small plants with little rootmass...and also how much easier to water now it is in plastic pots (i am pretty sure slightly overwatered the seedlings too - though in sun they were done in same way and no probs?)

Anyway, two of the plants outside were put in there a week ago and all is good, switched to flower on 15th june...and here are some photos!

 

[Lunix79]

And the photos.....

On the left is teh Afghan Kush x white Widow (AKxWW)
On the right the White Widow (WW)

This is before a little training to let some light in...

 

[Lunix79]

And a top view before...



And here after a litte training to AKxWW

 

[Lunix79]

And the WW...

Before...



After..

 

[Lunix79]

OK - good things to report - After a few days, the babies are thriving! Here are some pics from after training....

24hours (AKxWW @ front):


3 Days later


I am grinning from ear to ear!!!