2024 US Presidential Election

[Hammerhead]

According to Trump, the Dems do better on the economy. Women's rights are also better represented by Dems.

 

[moose eater]

I like the steering an oil tanker reference.
I'm not very happy with either candidate, but I'm definitely going to vote

I'll be voting. I pretty much do in every election, whether municipal/Borough, or State & Federal.

I just won't be voting for nationalist serial mass murderers.

Probably wouldn't toss either one of them a life ring if they were going down for the third time, either. Might buy some champagne and make some keto brownies in that event, though.

Edit: They're the same bagel; one side has poppy seeds and the other side doesn't.

 

[right]

Getting my drinks and munchies for the debate tonight.
My kind of football. The Patriots vs The Steelers

 

[moose eater]

According to Trump, the Dems do better on the economy. Women's rights are also better represented by Dems.

And though taken out of context, as many statements during the silly/campaign season are, Trump "loves the uneducated voters." too.

 

[moose eater]

Getting my drinks and munchies for the debate tonight.
My kind of football. The Patriots vs The Steelers

Humorously ironic teams in light of the debate.

I'll be testing the second batch of traditional/Native style smoked salmon strips and transferring another 165 gallons of #1 home heating oil.

 

[right]

Humorously ironic teams in light of the debate.

I'll be testing the second batch of traditional/Native style smoked salmon strips and transferring another 165 gallons of #1 home heating oil.

That is very cool
I have a son living near you. In a town called the north pole .
He eats wale with his step-dads tribe

 

[moose eater]

That is very cool
I have a son living near you. In a town called the north pole .
He eats wale with his step-dads tribe

Muktuk is common among some bands, usually bowhead, but sometimes beluga. My preference is for beluga, but most often it's bowhead, and it's been several years.

I'm guessing his relative is either Yupik or, more likely Inupiat/Inupiaq, or connected to someone who is.

Fatty, rich stuff. Heavy metals, though.

And I'm off to get cleaned up, shaved, and masked for a fuel oil run before the vultures start opportunistically raising the prices for the season, as they're known to do.

North Pole, by the way, is about 34 road miles from where we live. We're down the other direction, toward the Village of Nenana and Denali Nat'l Park, and back in 7 miles, near the Tanana River.

 

[Microbeman]

Ours do well with it, and, like I said, when we come in from outside play or work, the younger pup, especially, heads straight for her open kennel, where she has quilts, toys, etc., and where she can eat her chow with the door closed with zero food conflict.

It's also a great way when they're very young to teach bowel and bladder contenance; like most critters (Not including humans, of course) they hate to shit or piss in their own limited space, thus it aids in night time training for those issues for many dogs.

And German shepherds have their own peculiar ideosynchroses.

The 11-mos-old pup sleeps with me, and like with the kennel, goes straight to 'our spot'.

People will/can often make money on anything. There's sometimes some good info there, just as there is for nearly any subject. Weeding through wheat versus chaff is on us, just like in politics and elections, and examining facts, versus bullshit soundbites that don't match actions or histories. That part's on us. We either look more deeply, or we don't, and if we don't, then WE'RE complicit and share the blame.

As far as the election is concerned, clinging to the false dichotomy of there only being 2 choices or dimensions IS self-inflicted prison, representing a false dichotomy, just as it is when someone alleges "Well, if you don't vote for 'Y', it's the same as voting for 'X'. Not only a false assertion, but emotional extortion and nonsense.

There's been other choices for years, just as there are in raising kids or puppies.

Those folks who live in that narrow space are practicing self-inflicted helplessness and self-reinforced delusions that not only affects the US, but those countries where we've unlawfully murdered literal millions or toppled others' governments. But what's for breakfast, or the price of fuel at the pump are more important. A moral and political, nationalistic narcissism and moral disconnect, if ever there was.

 

[Zeez]

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group"

George Carlin

 

[So Hai]

lmao

 

[Microbeman]

But if you check the history of the economy under either party, the Dems, overall, have done a better job.

Where people often get tripped up is in failing to include the 'delay factor' in transition of administration; the 'wave effect' of a previous administration absolutely doesn't end as soon as the new admin walks through the door. It's more like steering an oil tanker. The moves begin long before the actual turn, and that turn absolutely doesn't take place in an instant or 'on a dime.'

Two absolutes right there...trickle down Reagan bullshit and poor under-rated Jimmy Carter

 

[moose eater]

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group"

George Carlin

Rarely has a more accurate and concise assessment of partisan politics been made or spoken aloud.

 

[moose eater]

Two absolutes right there...trickle down Reagan bullshit and poor under-rated Jimmy Carter

Jefferson argued that if the voters were too ignorant or uninformed of issues, then the resolution would be to educate them rather than to limit their ability to participate (Being the alleged father of democracy that he was supposed to be). But with an overwhelming tidal wave of non-facts/misinformation and a government that engages in enough illegal shit that they deny the Commoners access to or knowledge of such information, I'm not sure mere education will cut it, at least not in the short-term. With partisanism, disconnect of various sorts, and more, we now have what might be a softer, kinder, gentler version of Manchurian candidate voters, programmed to believe their brand of preferred, heavily programmed bullshit, no matter how lacking in substance or truth it might be.

If it's wrapped in the flag or the party, it must be true and good, right?

 

[moose eater]

Two absolutes right there...trickle down Reagan bullshit and poor under-rated Jimmy Carter

Carter was a humanitarian (in the better sense of the term) as well as a Statesman, and he caught all sorts of flack for that. Especially from the nationalists.

edit: I voted for Jimmy in 1980.

additional edit: Despite Carter reactivating Selective Service around '78 or '79, I believe, which I hung up posters in Homer, Alaska, opposing that reactivation, sent to me by my now-deceased sister. Though I believe he reactivated the Selective Service for the best of reasons; so the country would bear/share a common burden from war, instead of just a handful of people bleeding for the lethal political shenanigans that ensued too often

 

[Hammerhead]

And though taken out of context, as many statements during the silly/campaign season are, Trump "loves the uneducated voters." too.

Except he made that comment many years before(2004) he became POTUS. It's weird people are selective about his BS. His MAGA nutters will call it fake news.

 

[moose eater]

Except he made that comment many years before(2004) he became POTUS. It's weird people are selective about his BS. His MAGA nutters will call it fake news.

He said it in a long, verbal, rambling listing of those he 'loves' (though in truth, I don't suspect he loves anyone but himself, like many in powerful positions, where narcissism and sociopathy score high marks on the MMPIs), but it was my opinion, having listened to him saying that many times now, that he was simply talking without thinking; something he does a LOT of the time.

You can cut tape on any moment in time and have someone sound like they're saying something they're not really saying, even if they might actually believe it.

Dishonest partisan politics.

And a part of the reason why, in court hearings, it isn't unheard of for forensics techs to get involved and validate or invalidate recordings as authentic or not, to include whether they've been edited to be taken out of context.

He is guilty of -many- things, and among those he scores highest marks in is buffoonery.

He's one of those people, and actually probably many of us would be good candidates, but especially him, to engage in the practice of recording himself, then listening to himself a few times to see what he hears. It might change the way he presents himself. Assuming he's got any capacity at all for self-correction, conscience, or shame. Which does seem questionable at times..

 

[Hiddenjems]

I would settle for "no Project 2025" as the sole policy needed for my vote.

Nobody wants project 2025. Well maybe the closeted evangelical meth head crowd.

The have a whole community.

 

[moose eater]

Stolen from a post by big315smooth this AM. Dwight tried to warn us about where we are now.. Few really listened or connected the dots. Thanks, big.

RaRa misguided nationalism for war profits...



And Teddy tried to warn us as well, long before Citizens United, like way back in 1910.

From the Archives: President Teddy Roosevelt's New Nationalism Speech

Read the full text of President Teddy Roosevelt's "new nationalism" speech, given more than 100 years ago in Osawatomie, Kansas.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

 

[xtsho]

trump was a Democrat and donated to Hillary's Senatorial campaign. After he saw how that moron palin appealed to half the GOP he realized how easily he could con them so he ran for President as a Republican. He never would have made it out of the primary if he ran as a Democrat but he realized that by using fear and hate he could turn the GOP into his maga cult.

Trump used to pal around with the Clintons. They go way back. trump found it advantageous to socialize with an ex-President and clinton found it advantageous to be around a crook like trump. It was a win win for both of them at the time.

 

[Brother Nature]

Member guys, vote or die…