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2023 Outdoor Grow

ingealls

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Oj alla kom inte med
 

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ingealls

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Lite uppdatering på hur det växer. Den buskigaste där omplanterade jag från kruka till jorden när den redan var i blom. Men jävlar vad det inte verkade va dåligt. Kolla på den bara. Den är annars inte tränad alls. Dem andra lite större där var ung plantor .finns bilder högre upp i kanalen här. Dem är toppade i forskningsyfte. Någon undrade om man ska toppa utomhusplantor. Så vi få vänta och se resultatet. Den höga plantan är bara toppad men nu inledde jag lite träning vilket ni ser på bilden. Försöker öppna upp henne lite. Massiva blad större än min hand och jag e snart 40 bast. Har fått lite problem med vissa i krukor. Kommer i nästa bildspel.
Dem små plantorna satte jag för runt två veckor sedan. Ja ni vet ju. Men blir kul att se om dem hinner färdigt innan frosten. Gelato samba och watermelon jam är dem. Dem andra äldre plantorna har jag lyckats blanda ihop namnen på tyvärr. Sen längst till vänster på bilden med dem unga ser ni en liten jävla planta i full blom minst i mitten av blom. Även i växternas värld finns krymplingar verkar det som. Den stod i kruka till nyligen.
 

ingealls

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Som ni ser har spetsarna runt blomman blitt typ lila. Vad kan det bero på? Bara en planta som blitt sån. Den står i en vit keramik kruka.
 

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MrKurac

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Not a good idea @MrKurac.
Thanks for the reply mate. Is that because the soil might contain infection that's not good for the plant or why is it not a good idea? My idea was to use that soil as a "ground" and then use compost and manure and of course add nutrients to it for one of my spots, but i might have to skip that idea then... :)
 

ingealls

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Thanks for the reply mate. Is that because the soil might contain infection that's not good for the plant or why is it not a good idea? My idea was to use that soil as a "ground" and then use compost and manure and of course add nutrients to it for one of my spots, but i might have to skip that idea then... :)
I think you can use it if you feed it. You can use what ever organic material. Even start to prepare it this year for next year. If you got the time ofc. Put dead leafs and compost stuff under the soil. But i never used potatosoil before so iam not 100% sure
 

MrKurac

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I think you can use it if you feed it. You can use what ever organic material. Even start to prepare it this year for next year. If you got the time ofc. Put dead leafs and compost stuff under the soil. But i never used potatosoil before so iam not 100% sure
That was exactly my idea! Add organic material and compost, then i'll add nutritious soil in the spring. I'm just not sure whether the plants can get infected since it's not recommended to plant potatoes in the same soil 2 years in a row. Hoppas att någon skogsmulle sitter på svar! :)
 

offthehook

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Thanks for the reply mate. Is that because the soil might contain infection that's not good for the plant or why is it not a good idea? My idea was to use that soil as a "ground" and then use compost and manure and of course add nutrients to it for one of my spots, but i might have to skip that idea then... :)
No, nothing to do with infections. But when soil has been deprived from minerals & trace elements, then that is asking for your Cannabis plants to not wanna grow like it should.

Potatoes require a way different type of soil than Cannabis requires.
Potatoes grow best on heavy clay soil that has some drain. (Super rich in minerals and trace elements)
Whereas Cannabis requires a type of soil that has lots of air pockets in it, and provides way better drain and aeration than Potatoes would require. (Potatoes also tend to rob soil from nutrients (Minerals & trace elements amongst others) that are essential to grow cannabis, so it's a no brainer either way).
Naturally, from origin, going several thousands, hundreds of thousands years back in time, Cannabis would be growing in arid climate zones where they would establish themselves along places with up to a 70% clay content in the lower soil floor, while having access to high ground water in valleys, or on mountain slopes that would be carrying water from higher-up down to where they grow.
On such places, they would repeatedly grow & die in large numbers while being densely packed together.
Like this, they would produce their own top soil to thrive on, and the soil would merely consist of their own slowly decaying stems, and their own fast decaying leaf matter, while having access to moist, minerals and trace elements at the mostly clay soil down below.
Because their stems are this slowly to disintegrate, over time, they will produce a type of soil that holds lots of air pockets, much like coco coir or course peat. It is in this type of soil that their roots will find little resistance to move through, so they can easily cover a large 3 dimensional surface, and be outgrowing other weeds from different species very easy. Thus making more soil of which only these Cannabis plants have become prime experts to survive on.
You would want to mimic this type of soil, and not confront them with a type of soil that has already been depleted from minerals & trace element, and which would be too hard for their roots to penetrate, breathe oxygen, and expand in abundance.
 
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Useridentity

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Godmorgon!
Jag har några C99/ah/upzz som jag satte lite senare än mina andra..
Tjänar jag något på årets skörd att fylla på med mer jord ovanpå och/eller runtomkring eller har rötterna redan rotat sig?
Tror det är ca 20-30 L jord för tillfället.
 

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offthehook

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Godmorgon!

Morning! I have some C99/ah/upzz that I put a little later than my others.. Do I gain anything from this year's harvest by adding more soil on top and/or around or have the roots already taken root? Think it's about 20-30 L of soil at the moment.
Yes. You will benefit big time after topping up more soil, also good to add some ferts to that.
Roots work like this that they will go there, where it's the most optimal for them. They even will grow upwards if it happens to be better there.
So long this new topped-up upper layer stays nice moist, the roots will get new territory to invade. After topping up, you will notice the lighter tip leaves to become dark again.
If you were to do a pilot test with 2 identical plants of which one got topped up, and the other one not, you'll notice a significant difference comes harvest.

To me it's not clear what you mean by 'around' .
But if you mean: digging a circular hole around the plant, and then filling that with soil, then that is not a good idea. > The roots have already grown way to far side ways to pull that off without setting back the plants progress. > It's going to go into grow shock from which it won't recover.
Instead, you can add as much soil as you wish all around on top of the existing soil.
But one thing though: You'd need to not put new soil anywhere against the stem. > Leave the stem free from new soil, because it may/will cause stem rot.
 
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Useridentity

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Yes. You will benefit big time after topping up more soil, also good to add some ferts to that.
Roots work like this that they go there where it's the most optimal for them. They even will grow upwards if it happens to be better there.
So long this new topped-up upper layer stays nice moist, the roots will get new territory to invade. After topping up, you will notice the lighter tip leaves to become dark again.
If you were to do a pilot test with 2 identical plants of which one got topped up, and the other one not, you'll notice a significant difference comes harvest.

To me it's not clear what you mean by 'around' .
But if you mean: digging a circular hole around the plant, and then filling that with soil, then that is not a good idea. > The roots have already grown way to far side ways to pull that off without setting back the plants progress. > It's going to go into grow shock from which it won't recover.
Instead, you can add as much soil as you wish all around on top of the existing soil.
But one thing though: You'd need to not put new soil anywhere against the stem. > Leave the stem free from new soil, because it may/will cause stem rot.
Ok then I will put some more soil this weekend.
I did not mean to dig, just make the ”circle of soil” bigger.
Thanks again our Grandmaster of plants 👊
 

MrKurac

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No, nothing to do with infections. But when soil has been deprived from minerals & trace elements, then that is asking for your Cannabis plants to not wanna grow like it should.

Potatoes require a way different type of soil than Cannabis requires.
Potatoes grow best on heavy clay soil that has some drain. (Super rich in minerals and trace elements)
Whereas Cannabis requires a type of soil that has lots of air pockets in it, and provides way better drain and aeration than Potatoes would require. (Potatoes also tend to rob soil from nutrients (Minerals & trace elements amongst others) that are essential to grow cannabis, so it's a no brainer either way).
Naturally, from origin, going several thousands, hundreds of thousands years back in time, Cannabis would be growing on places where they would establish themselves along arid places with up to a 70% clay content in the lower soil floor, while having access to high ground water in valleys, or on mountain slopes that would be carrying water from higher-up down to where they grow.
On such places, they would repeatedly grow & die in large numbers while being densely packed together.
Like this, they would produce their own top soil to thrive on, and the soil would merely consist of their own slowly decaying stems, and their own fast decaying leaf matter, while having access to moist, minerals and trace elements at the mostly clay soil down below.
Because their stems are this slowly to disintegrate, over time, they will produce a type of soil that holds lots of air pockets, much like coco coir or course peat. It is in this type of soil that their roots will find little resistance to move through, so they can easily cover a large 3 dimensional surface, and be outgrowing other weeds from different species very easy. Thus making more soil of which only these Cannabis plants have become prime experts to survive on.
You would want to mimic this type of soil, and not confront them with a type of soil that has already been depleted from minerals & trace element, and which would be too hard for their roots to penetrate, breathe oxygen, and expand in abundance.

Thanks for an excellent explanation. Then i'll skip that idea.. :)
 

offthehook

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@MrKurac
@Useridentity > 👊

I would want you guys to succeed, so I'm trying to do my best at 'helping out' when required.
It's been my life long passion, so I've got a good deal of experience to back things up.
Besides of that: Other people with similar passion have come my way to clear me up a thing or two, and now I 'm in a position to pass on 'the stick' to you guys. That's all. :)
 
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Hasselhoff1337

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@MrKurac
@Useridentity > 👊

I would want you guys to succeed, so I'm trying to do my best at 'helping out' when required.
It's been my life long passion, so I've got a good deal of experience to back things up.
Besides of that: Other people with similar passion have come my way to clear me up a thing or two, and now I 'm in a position to pass on 'the stick' to you guys. That's all. :)
What would we do without the guerilla OG’s man!?!? We’d need 10 seasons to get the knowledge we can find here in a few hours.

You growing anything this year Offthehook?
 

offthehook

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You growing anything this year Offthehook?
Sure sure.
Though this year, and already last year, I've been going a bit smaller scale in compare to previous years, because of all the stress and work overload that comes along with it, especially during harvest.
Autos have been started a bit late this year, and most of the remainder gear in the woods are either Super Autos or Ultra Earlies, so the time for me to go make some pics with substantial bud on them will be delayed towards the end of August/September this year.
I'll keep it posted here in Swedish section as well when time is ready... Things for now are going like they should. :)
I'm only making seeds always, for as a means to keep our hobby in progress together with other similar minded people. You may wanna count yourself in on that some time later on... Hush hush... ;)
 
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Chemimbalance

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Jag har varit bortrest cirka 2 veckor och tydligen har det regnat mest hela tiden så jag förväntade mig det värsta när jag åkte till odlingen idag.

Allt hade dock klarat sig fint förutom min Parmesan som jag fått som freebie. Något djur hade mumsat i sig toppen och alla blad, men det kan jag bjussa på.
Till och med de plantor som jag kapade översta 70% och lämnade de lägre pollinerade grenarna på hade klarat sig fint. Man kan ana en på första bilden, längst fram, näst längst till höger.

Jag kommer ha ganska ordentlig koll på plantorna nu på grund av allt regn som varit och som kommer framöver. De var verkligen helt mättade med vatten men inte en tillstymmelse till botrytis eller mjöldagg ändå. Stabilt!

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Egen korsning

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Jack Herer auto

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Jack Herer auto
 

Hasselhoff1337

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Sure sure.
Though this year, and already last year, I've been going a bit smaller scale in compare to previous years, because of all the stress and work overload that comes along with it, especially during harvest.
Autos have been started a bit late this year, and most of the remainder gear in the woods are either Super Autos or Ultra Earlies, so the time for me to go make some pics with substantial bud on them will be delayed towards the end of August/September this year.
I'll keep it posted here in Swedish section as well when time is ready... Things for now are going like they should. :)
I'm only making seeds always, for as a means to keep our hobby in progress together with other similar minded people. You may wanna count yourself in on that some time later on... Hush hush... ;)
Ah cool! Wanted to try superautos/earlies but my spots are not the best to hide big plants… my biggest one this year got to chest height, so it tied it down, which seem to have been a mistake as the top 30cm snapped where I put the string… so I found some bud rot on it yesterday in the top. Cut it off and lets hope the lower parts do fine. Will still probly land me 50g dried. It’s got a week or two before the chop so im gonna try to ride it out. Those last week(s) rly do a lot on the weight for this strain…

Already chopped the other girl who got attacked by those small beetle things. Fucking horrible insects, eating my buds. Gotta find a way to prevent that in coming seasons.

One of my seeded plants got attacked by a bird. Guess I bought him dinner, which is all good, he only took a low branch anyway.

I’d love to give your beans a shot. Those plants look amazing from what I’ve seen. Unless I get super unlucky in the coming month I’ll have some interesting auto mixes and more seed than I know what to do with. Hopefully someone knows somewhere good for me to put em ;). I’ll keep y’all posted. Good luck everyone. Looking forward to see them harvest pics!
 

.kalashnikov

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Besökte min plats idag, och tyvärr så var det början på mögel på mina två finaste plantor så dom blev nedkapade, 2-3 dagar av mer regn skulle förstöra dom totalt. (Luktade äckligt och bruna/missfärgade buds). Inte alls i närheten av att vara färdiga och feta, så säkrade den skörden. Många av dom andra plantorna är också i blom-fas och vissa tror jag hade små tecken på mögel, eller kommer bli mögliga om regnet fortsätter, men jag vill låta dom stå kvar och pollinera dom för att göra frön av hela plantorna, skippar penselmetoden m.a.o, men är inte säker om mögliga buds kan bli pollinerade/skapa frön. Har noll intresse av att kapa dom kvarstående blommande plantorna för tidig skitröka, dom är ultra korta missbildade dvärgar, så jag hoppas det går att dedikera dom till frön istället. Odlar auto som ska korsas med random danska strains ;)

Hade det inte varit så mycket jobb idag, så hade jag tagit med kameran och fotat. Denna säsong har varit de mest konstiga och fula plantorna någonsin. Korta jävlar med konstiga blad etc många ser väldigt cp ut. En anledning är nog för att jag använde Blom-fast näring för tidigt, och försökte använda naturens resurser och bygga en jord på det, men alla andra säsonger så kånkade jag hasselfors baserade u-jord varje år, 20-40 liter per planta och fick stora feta plantor som satt skam på alla som påstod att auto's inte kan bli stora.
Vad för strain? Har fått av Offthehook och O = GEX x GEX, or Polar Light/Fire'99. Auto, Super Auto, or Ultra Early sorten har haft jävligt missbildade blad haha, har iofs bara satt 20 av den sorten och dom har inte riktigt orkat upp så dom är fortfarande i min "container" och inte utsatta.
 

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