2010 outdoors,

[grizzlybeard]

Very little rain over here too, bloody high winds tho I had to run out this morning and stake all the plants.

Your not the only one man. Managed to get them staked before any major damage was done luckily. Lets hope we dont have to many more days like that.

Any word on the contest yet?

I dont use coco pots anymore as I find they created a weak point for the root in the later pots, and sometimes the root struggles to break through them. Its really no harder to just pot up normally.

 

[Cookie monster]

Your not the only one man. Managed to get them staked before any major damage was done luckily. Lets hope we dont have to many more days like that.
Any word on the contest yet?

Ah we probably need a few windy days to toughen up the plants and branches for flowering time and the extra weight of buds

Still no word on the comp, we're waiting on old pink to give the ok on it.
If for some reason it's not allowed I'll pm you all.

 

[Cookie monster]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=180372

Great thread on how to prevent grey mould.

 

[MJBadger]

MJB do you know anything about treating soil for botrytis spores?

Only what i`ve heard/read & most of it is on the link you posted , my part of the country seems fairly free of Botrytis in any large form . The best advice on the link is definately cleanliness & a good air flow around plants , sure the spores can be in the soil but most of the the written stuff on it mentions air borne spores . I remember there s a product called Armillox (or something like) that`s mixed with water & can be used for sterilising soil but you can`t plant for 6mth i think , so if you used it end oct your soil will be ready end April . Best thing to do is burn any badly infected plants & any debris you find , but b4 you do that cut out the bud & throw it in the freezer . Even though it looks shagged you`d be suprised how much bubble can be made from it then wash bubble bags in Miltons sterilising solution & then a good rinse in clean water then air dry .

& BiCarb helps if sprayed on the plants but only on a breezy day to ensure it dries .


Stay green .

I like the new avitar

she looks very nice naked to .

 

[Cookie monster]

I've always just burned bud from plants that were infected, I read about folk bhoing or bubble baging material from infected plants but spores are tiny and to me contamination is unavoidable.

Armillox sounds interesting I'll add it to the research list cheers MJB.

Did you guys get any rain yet?

 

[hugh420]

hey guys how are the plants?The wind been hitting you hard? Im thinking about strains for next year and have a few in perticular:
afgahn
ak47
big bud
cheese
white widow
purple power
white rhino
northern lights
holands hope
lsd
durban poison
d.p orange bud
Early Girl
Early Pearl
Early Misty
Early Bud
White Russian
Shaman
hashplant
mighty mite
blue mystic
guerillas gusto

any experiance with any of these strains ^^^any that wouldnt work here
will prob pick 5 or 6

 

[cloneX]

Why doesn't anyone do it the Swiss way with tarps

 

[Cookie monster]

Hiya Hugh I've tryd a few on that list either outdoors or in the conservatory.

Afghan does well under glass, it handled the high temps under glass quite well but moulds easilly.

White widow vegges very well but wont finish.

Guerillas gusto does well under glass but not the most potent, it failed outdoors but it was one of those shitty overcast wet summers.

Hollands hope will do well in a good year, I tryd it outdoors last year but wind damage and mould on 1 branch so it was cut early (pic in my albums)

Of the ones I listed hollands hope is the strain I'd be happy with trying again but only in a good year.

Take a look at some of the Danish bred strains they stand the best chance of sucess imo.

 

[Cookie monster]

Why doesn't anyone do it the Swiss way with tarps

Thats a good question Clonex.
Nice idea to try out next year early in the season with a few small plants

 

[MJBadger]

Hi Cookie , i`m still looking for a bottle of Armillox (or it`s named something similar) that i know i had 1 time in the shed but if you see the state of my shed you`d know why i have trouble finding anything . When i originally bought it i wanted to use it for ridding the moss on the g house glass & remembered that it warned you to empty the g house of all plants for several weeks & that it could also be used as a soil steriliser (sprayed on). Maybe a search for soil/g house sterilisers will bring it up .
Yes we had some rain , at least 5mins of it last evening !!!!!!!

Plants are loving it at home with a regular watering but were gonna have to break an old habit & check out the guerrila plots . A buddy of mine had a wild plot last year & checked it after a hot spell like this one & all he saw was mainly stalks that looked totally shot . Then we had a wet spell on & off for 3wks or so went back a week after that & he said all the plants were full of green & you could`nt tell any difference , & ended up pulling a good harvest , maybe MJ is a bit stronger than we give them credit for .

Stay green .

 

[Cookie monster]

Hi Cookie , i`m still looking for a bottle of Armillox (or it`s named something similar) that i know i had 1 time in the shed but if you see the state of my shed you`d know why i have trouble finding anything . When i originally bought it i wanted to use it for ridding the moss on the g house glass & remembered that it warned you to empty the g house of all plants for several weeks & that it could also be used as a soil steriliser (sprayed on). Maybe a search for soil/g house sterilisers will bring it up .
Yes we had some rain , at least 5mins of it last evening !!!!!!!

Plants are loving it at home with a regular watering but were gonna have to break an old habit & check out the guerrila plots . A buddy of mine had a wild plot last year & checked it after a hot spell like this one & all he saw was mainly stalks that looked totally shot . Then we had a wet spell on & off for 3wks or so went back a week after that & he said all the plants were full of green & you could`nt tell any difference , & ended up pulling a good harvest , maybe MJ is a bit stronger than we give them credit for .

Stay green .

MJB.
Bro if you had of seen my sheds before the big clean out you'd wonder how I ever found anythng in them, 2 large skip loads of 20 years worth of accumulated junk.
I even found a 100cc scrambler I bought years ago I'd forgotten about.

I'm rethinking my strategy on soil treatment for mould a lot of the stuff I'm reading at the moment is leading me to believe that botrytis spores in soil can be easilly controlled with some of the more benificial fungi n bacteria.

I'm really busy with work and gathering turf this week but the plan for saturday is major pruning of all the lower branches, harvest the onions growing around the MJ plants, clear the soil, cover with weed control fabric and cut and spray all the bushes with organic fungiside and train the plants for maximum airflow.

 

[tonto]

cookie maybe look at jeyes fluid, btw when did hollands hope finish?

hugh iv i fair few of those on my own list, im trying to find some cheap mighty might and im about to order some easy sativa.

sour 60s is the only definite thing im going to do next year, if a strain doesnt finish by the end of september here its way too risky afterwards and if its mold free by the end of october its a miracle.

 

[Cookie monster]

cookie maybe look at jeyes fluid, btw when did hollands hope finish?

Jeyes fluid is pretty much a by-product of the petrochemical industary Tonto, it would probably kill every worm in the soil but thanks for the suggetion.

Hollands hope your looking at late October over here,

^ pic was taken 06/10/2009 and she had 3/4 weeks left in her.
The plant had a touch of mould on the wound where a branch snapped off due to high winds and on another area where 2 branches were rubbing against each other.

None of the buds had mould , but mould on the damaged area's would have spread in time as the plant matured and stared to die off.

EDIT:

If I knew then what I have studied in the past few weeks then that plant would have been saved by severely thining out branches and treated with organic daily anti-fungal sprays and staked out for a deacent air flow between branches.

 

[cloneX]

Well my expermeints are coming to an end due to thieves(they got robbed twice) but if I had the room and privacy I would build a green house out of wood. Having wood all around the sides painted white on the inside to reflect as much light as possible (Plus vents for airflow) and then a clear plastic roof, plus a tharp Finishing heights would be around 15" to 24"
I have found it is best to start them in June/July as it gets too cold and wet here later in the season,(bloody mould) after the second week of August there is no need for the tharp as the light is dropping fast so your plants will not reverse. My main problems have been powerdy mildew and it's starting again, don't know how to stop it other then to pick infected leaves off (such a pain)
Durban - Sensi Seeds, good if the bloody seeds germ, stung twice!
Purple No1 - DP, Horrible,(burnt wood taste) stank waste of time
Early Girl - Nirvana, good but mould
other,bagseed,own crosses - unkown, varying results, mould, bloody mildew.

I have a clone which is four years old now, may not be a cup winner but it's my own cross and does well under low light intensity. I keep it alive under a desk lamp(60w cfl) during the winter giving it no nutes and little water to keep it small. Then in the spring I clone it again, lol

-=[ I LOVE LOW-TECH ]=-
tarps,sheds,cupboards, OVERGROW THE GOVERMENTS!

 

[tonto]

fuck it , going to sprout some more

 

[Cookie monster]

fuck it , going to sprout some more

What are ya going to sprout tonto?

Has anyone ever experienced pre-flowes like these?
Obviously it's too early in the season for plants to go into flowering but looking at the pics I'd swear they were in the first week of flowering?



Seems like an awful lot of pistils for pre-flowers?

 

[MJBadger]

Cookie , i have seen & had a lot of pisils on some of my own plants before like yours . You could be in for a nice suprise & keep an eye on finishing time because you may have a heavy yield very possibly a bit earlier than anticipated .
Looking good .

Stay green .

 

[Cookie monster]

Cookie , i have seen & had a lot of pisils on some of my own plants before like yours . You could be in for a nice suprise & keep an eye on finishing time because you may have a heavy yield very possibly a bit earlier than anticipated .
Looking good .

Stay green .

From what I've been told finishing times for most of the strains in the garden is mid October at the latest.
The ones with an abundance of pre-flowers are both Xfiles x Amnesia Haze which I know feck all about...I suppose I had better take a few clones and keep them in veg just incase they are an early finisher.

It would be nice if they were as I still have Xf x AH pollen in the freezer.

 

[esbe]

they are flowering bro. check my HFH hashplant photo album and check dates on the mums and dad. its interesteing if the hybrid is early and contains amnesia qualitys!

 

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Well lads whas the craic. Hows every1's grows getting on.

Aint posted in a bit but as usual i been lurking an keping a eye, great to see the forum gettin more active.

Clonex, thats a dam good question. I'd imagine there are some who use tarps in greenhouses but never seen a guerilla grow in ireland do em. I've also seen a few americans who stake around there plants and wrap the stakes in something like a woolen blanket, and leave the plants out over winter. Something which may help extend our own growing season

Hugh have grown the LSD quite a few times myself (just after harvesting some last week as a matter of fact ). I cant see this finishing up in time over here. Not the right plant structure, and not an early finisher..... It is a beautiful plant though, would definitely recommend growing her indoors if poss, just cant see her aking to the irish climate.

Have also grown out (indoor) the Widow, big bud, cheese, and white rhino, and seen the afghans, ak47, northern lights and white russian from yer list above, and as a whole i cant see them being strains for our climate either sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Having said that, phenotypical expressions can render pretty much completely different plants in some stages, so dont take that as law .

Interesting article I stumbled across on the net today, anyone ever tryed it on MJ plants?


Milk is a useful fungicide in the garden, and is more effective than standard chemical brands.
Researchers believe the potassium phosphate in milk boosts a plant's immune system to fight the fungi.
Where most organic gardeners use a baking soda, soap and oil solution, milk may be substituted to combat the unwanted fungus.
Preparing a Milk Solution and Spraying Schedule
The correct dilution and spraying schedule for garden plants depends on the situation and takes some trial and error.
A milk fungicide solution can range from 1 part milk to 9 parts water, to a strong, milk-only solution. A 1:1 dilution may work for a week, but a 1:8 solution requires spraying every 3 or 4 days.
Skim milk may work better than whole milk, as the higher fat milk may clog a sprayer; even reconstituted powdered milk works.
Uses for Milk Fungicide
Milk was originally used in the garden to treat powdery mildew on squash plants. It is now also commonly used on flowers such as rudebekia (Black-eyed Susans) and Begonias to cure powdery mildew.
Milk has also been used to cure Botrytis on a Cyclamen houseplant. This was applied full strength every morning (leftover breakfast milk). Rotten leaves were picked away and the plant pulled through with no more Botrytis.
Black spots and rust on roses can be controlled but not cured with milk. Fortunately, milk can prevent the spread of these fungi to other plants and new leaves. This can be very useful when bringing home a plant from the nursery and finding a black spot.

Just to chime in here, i've used milk to tackle powdery mildew, a few grows ago. Stopped the mildew in its tracks, and havent seen any signs of it since. The plants attacked were in veg at the time, these also grew out without being re-infected. Very happy with it as a cure.

Ha, what strains have u got going now tonto ?

Yeah that plant look past the pre flower stage alrite cook . Dayum, an its only July. That stored pollen u got might definitely be worth holding onto.

Hmmm, prolly doesnt fit in this thread but since this post has gone on this long already...... just after harvesting some Whiteberry, LSD, and Hashberry, and have some female c99's in their 2nd - 3rd week of flower, and have a male c99 whom i'm gonna harvest some pollen from later today .