2010 outdoors,

[MJBadger]

Nice buds cookie .What strain is that???
My leaves are getting eaten recently is there any way of getting rid of snails and caterpillars without spraying a load of chemicals on my plant??
Also i was wondering if i should change my nutes for flowering or if i should use mollases or something.

Them plants are looking good hugh & CM .

You`r the first person i have ever found that`s had caterpiller`s on there MJ , strange thinking about it because in all the years i`ve been on threads i can never remember anyone suffering this . If they are cats just pick them off , obvious signs of cats are little black droppings on the leaves coz they have to crap as they feed .
Slugs & snails are fairly easy to control but it needs to be done b4 the buggers are on the plant eating . Snail pellets are effective although wildlife is at risk from secondary poisoning , beer traps are 100% killers with no risk , & copper wire /labels around the bottom of plants works .
If your plants are flowering or very near then you need flower nutes to promote good buds , any good Tom feed will work & combine it with Mollases if you have it , your harvest will show it`s thanks .

Stay green .

 

[hugh420]

Good advice thanks will pick up some tomato feed and mollasses soon and i think i might be able to find slug pellets in my garage somewhere.
The reason i thought it was catarpillars is because there are a lot of tiny holes all over the leaf and i have seen little black droppings but i have never actually seen one on my plants.
I never used flowering nutes or mollases on my autos ant my g-o-m is about a week from harvest should i start now?
Also my top skunk 44 is throwing up pistils at every node and all but one of the plants in the bucket seem to be flowering too

 

[MJBadger]

The reason i thought it was catarpillars is because there are a lot of tiny holes all over the leaf and i have seen little black droppings but i have never actually seen one on my plants.

caterpillers do not make tiny holes , they munch a frigging great lump out of a leaf .

Stay green .

 

[Cookie monster]

caterpillers do not make tiny holes , they munch a frigging great lump out of a leaf .

Stay green .

It sounds more like baby snails than caterpillers, I had a problem with tiny snails last year climbing high up into the plants for a munch.
Oddly enough it was only the tiny baby snails not the adults that liked to munch my MJ, I'm also convinced their poo is a breeding ground for mould.

Hugh there are loads of organic sprays you can make from stuff in your kitchen that work quite well to keep the bugs away.

Google organic insect control.

 

[Cookie monster]

Time for an update..

Things are going well 2 plants flowering away as best they can, tiny trichs are starting to appear

I lost a large branch on one of the Xf x AH because my idiot male boxer jumped the 4 foot fence and landed on the poor plant.
The big idiot was chasing after a bumble bee?

Some of the lower branches are trying their best to snap


They are going to have to be removed or cut half way and heavily strapped.

The pollenated plant is 3 weeks away from harvesting seed and looking ok


The first of the last seed plants offspring is starting to veg nicely


Stay safe and happy all

 

[bonghopper]

Looking great cookie monster, pity about the branches, do you have a couple of other large plants in the garden about the same age? Hoping to grow some nordic strains in the Emerald Isle next year, vegging a couple of keepers for a couple of months indoors before the last frost. Think that would stress them too much or should I put them out in mid may? Have you ever given a jump to the outdoor season that way?
Your mold prevention is top notch I have to say but it has to be in this country unless you're growing in an open field, even then.

Been following this grow since I've registered and its nice to see some outdoor plants flowering at the beginning of July. Whats the plan with the offspringer? I've some plants that age now, will they flower outside that young?

Nice one

 

[bonghopper]

Good advice thanks will pick up some tomato feed and mollasses soon and i think i might be able to find slug pellets in my garage somewhere.
The reason i thought it was catarpillars is because there are a lot of tiny holes all over the leaf and i have seen little black droppings but i have never actually seen one on my plants.
I never used flowering nutes or mollases on my autos ant my g-o-m is about a week from harvest should i start now?
Also my top skunk 44 is throwing up pistils at every node and all but one of the plants in the bucket seem to be flowering too

Same here hugh, tried some pyretheum & a little bit of organic soap with some results, but I had to spray them every few days in the rainy weather. Put a yellow sticky trap out the other day though and its great! Catching everything though, including the wasps that eat the smaller flies, but then again they dont eat everything. Trying some garlic repellant next, its got some fungicidal properties too. Do you have an indoors on the go too? First grow tried some lowryder 2 this year, but it moulded real bad with about 4 or 5 weeks to go! That was before I started reading icmag and discovered the nordic strains. Im gonna have to make myself a stealth cab to get me through the winter.

Your plants are looking well man, I dont think the holes in the leaves affect growth too much. Seeing any of those leafhopper fuckers?

 

[straintester]

"I can make it to the fence in 2.8 seconds, can you?"

GAWD I just love that line from a dog's point of view.

Nice plants too

 

[hugh420]

hey bonghopper ya i was planning on doing that too next year starting maybe in feb so they can have a little extra veg time. Ive seen those leafhopper things but i didnt know they ate plants.
I have no room to finish an indoor plant barely enough space to veg them in (theyre in a suitcase lol).

 

[bonghopper]

No way man! Thats genius, best use of a suitcase I've ever seen. You could flower some clones from the outdoor plants with a very short veg time in a space like that?

I've put the question to the lads on the Nordic strains thread to see what strains are best suited for that type of indoor start.

There's so many airborne leaf eaters around, that's most of the problem I think. Then there's slugs and snails that eat whole seedlings. Mold was the real problem for me though, have you taken any preventions?

Looking for a dresser/cupboard this weekend and get started on this cab, something to keep me busy.

 

[The_Grim_Reefer]

Yeh u can veg indoors before throwing them out bonghopper, just when your putting em outside u gotta have a "hardening off" period. That just means gradually easing them outside, put em out for a short period the first day, and gradually increase that length of time depending on how the plants are reacting, until their outdoor fulltime .

Cook, have ya thought about just tying the lower branches to the main stem, and then just stake the main stem. Thats what i do with larger plants Alot of the time the main stem doesnt even need to be staked as the branches act as counterweights for eachother

 

[firefox]

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Cook, have ya thought about just tying the lower branches to the main stem, and then just stake the main stem. Thats what i do with larger plants Alot of the time the main stem doesnt even need to be staked as the branches act as counterweights for eachother

nice one grim reefer im learning daily..

 

[bonghopper]

Hey Reefer man, yeah it would be a big shock going from stable humidity and temps @ 18hrs light indoors to about 12 in early April, probably put them into flower?
Its not until the end of may that there's 18hrs here, could I get away with 16 or less?
Have you ever vegged for a few months before putting out?

 

[Cookie monster]

Yeh u can veg indoors before throwing them out bonghopper, just when your putting em outside u gotta have a "hardening off" period. That just means gradually easing them outside, put em out for a short period the first day, and gradually increase that length of time depending on how the plants are reacting, until their outdoor fulltime .

Cook, have ya thought about just tying the lower branches to the main stem, and then just stake the main stem. Thats what i do with larger plants Alot of the time the main stem doesnt even need to be staked as the branches act as counterweights for eachother

Good points about hardening off Grimm, I've thrown unwanted plants into the garden before and they tend to sit there for a week or 2 doing nothing until they get used to their new conditions.

Good idea about the staking but my lot are all topped so there's no main stem.
The main stems on the big plants are more of a V I'd be afraid they would split if I tied the lower branches to them.
What I probably should have done is string a few lines over head.

Hugh that suitcase grow is pure class
Probably a good idea you dont try n bring that thing through the airport, the boys in customs dont grow so they may have difficulty understanding why you want to bring your grow room on holidays.

 

[straintester]

Good points about hardening off Grimm, I've thrown unwanted plants into the garden before and they tend to sit there for a week or 2 doing nothing until they get used to their new conditions.

Good idea about the staking but my lot are all topped so there's no main stem.
The main stems on the big plants are more of a V I'd be afraid they would split if I tied the lower branches to them.
What I probably should have done is string a few lines over head.

Hugh that suitcase grow is pure class
Probably a good idea you dont try n bring that thing through the airport, the boys in customs dont grow so they may have difficulty understanding why you want to bring your grow room on holidays.

My topped plant that I tied down like you mentioned did split in half from the wind
Good point
Bringing your own grow room on holidays
Thats one SERIOUS grower

 

[Cookie monster]

My topped plant that I tied down like you mentioned did split in half from the wind
Good point
Bringing your own grow room on holidays
Thats one SERIOUS grower

Thats kinda what I'm becoming more concerned about as the branches add weight.

I'm toying with the idea of putting moulds around the weak points where the main stem has branched and filling them with expanding foam..

It sounds dumb i know but it might work

 

[tonto]

I'm toying with the idea of putting moulds around the weak points where the main stem has branched and filling them with expanding foam..

sounds pretty original,lv no idea if it would work, id maybe try putting putting some horizontal bamboo sticks through first, or try wrestle your plants in to a cage, the cages work pretty well for myself and helps stop all the buds being smashed in to the ground when we get torrential rain, also no snapped branches and they make pruning and training easier and help increase airflow.

 

[straintester]

Thats kinda what I'm becoming more concerned about as the branches add weight.

I'm toying with the idea of putting moulds around the weak points where the main stem has branched and filling them with expanding foam..

It sounds dumb i know but it might work

sounds pretty original,lv no idea if it would work, id maybe try putting putting some horizontal bamboo sticks through first, or try wrestle your plants in to a cage, the cages work pretty well for myself and helps stop all the buds being smashed in to the ground when we get torrential rain, also no snapped branches and they make pruning and training easier and help increase airflow.

I'm all for experimenting
Its where I learn the most from
Your idea sounds intertesting
Horizontal bamboo as in a simple cage sounds workable
lets face it, the cage thing is a popular idea so it must have something to it
I'm glad you brought this up as I need to seriously consider doing something soon as well as covering them

 

[tonto]

just though of an idea

put 4 posts a foot or two around your plant (like a box) then on two sides string up some wire between the posts, you can then thread bamboo through the plant to hold up branches, the bamboo is then held in place by the wire on either side of the plant, very easy to adjust and probably pretty sturdy

this is sort of like what i mean

http://www.google.com/products/cata...ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCcQ8wIwAg#ps-sellers

 

[MJBadger]

this is sort of like what i mean

only prob with this idea should you pull out a cane your BALLS drop . L O L

it ain`t rocket science , branches that are likely to snap particuarly with bud weight need support . Canes & string loops in which ever way supports them .
1 advantage of these shaped plants is that the wind will dry them , trouble is there also open to the rain . Fingers x`d CM .


Stay green .