150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

[Guest]

I have a dumb question that probably gets answered a lot, but here goes anyway.

How far should the bulb be from the plant tops when running a 15OW? Is there really that much of a difference between 2" and 8" with regard to light penetration? I realize the light covers 4 times more area when the height is doubled, but what about the actual light output + penetration; does that decrease 4x too? Thanks!

p.s. I'll post some pictures of my girls sometime soon, maybe on Wednesday when Week 6 officially kicks off. !!! I have three bag-seed chicas flwring right now, one vgged for 5 or 6 weeks topped LSTed and tortured to life before the flip was switched, one a clone taken and put into 12/12 as soon as it rooted, and one more going 12/12 from seed that's as old as the clone. I'll have to post some side-by-side pictures of all three for comparison's sake. The seed plant is a surprisingly stout little jumber.

 

[Guest]

i usually can do 4"-8" with the heat


here are some pictures of my biggest girl at day 34:

 

[Pipedream]

FiveSevenZero - I'm with rkrone on this one. I usually hang out in the 4 to 6 range as well. But yes, just a few inches can make a big differnce in how your plants respond. My best advice is always to do the back-of-hand test. If your hand is comfortable staying there for a full minute, then your plants will be as well.

Good Afternoon Crew - Here she is at day 6 of changeover. Looks like I finally got all of the issues under control and as a result, she's responding very nicely. She's got great color, vigor, and fast a fast maturity rate. Now lets see if I can keep her going this way. I'm in dire need of a good "Mom".

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[Guest]

Hey 570, if ya make yerself a cooltube or a coolbox, the plants can grow up to the glass without any worries.

Edit**

Woops, missed Suga's Burmese, man those plants are awesome as usual.

I gotta fingale me some Burmese seeds one of these days!

Hey Pipedream,

those look too perfect. Are they plastic?

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

150w hps noob question

150w hps noob question

Hey guys tizzle here. I dont know much about hps so im counting on ur thoughts. I have a rubbermaid closet grow going and im currently running 6 26w CFLs. I figure with that im already running a little over 150 watts and since i have pretty big rubbermaid cab i need more like 250 watts. So in the way of saving money and getting better results im thinking a 150w hps might be better suited to what i need? Here is my grow journal u can kinda get some info on my sitch. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55986 And right now since my plants are so small i gotta raise em pretty high to get to the CFL light and its killing my ventalation because i got a box to prop the plants up and its kinda blocking the intake. So i did some checking around and found this light on ebay. Whatcha guys think? http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-150-watt-HP...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Well thansk for the info

 

[Pipedream]

tIzZLEmOnSTeR - The light looks fine, but you can do much better on price. Check out e-conolight.com. You'll be able to pick one up for about a third the price. Many of us have bought from them and they work great.

 

[tIzZLEmOnSTeR]

wow im down for a 3rd the price! Now my only problem is i cant find anything like the ebay one on that site at all lol i guess with this site i need to build it, which i can prolly figure out if you could show me what i need? I found this light http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?FGNumber=~HP150 Is that what i need? but i know i need a ballast right? aieee im lost lol

 

[Supacalabala]

Hey 150 watters I'm looking to make a cool tube what should I use? I went to wallyworld to check out the lantern covers and the only brand they carry were coleman , they were a bit small and oddly shaped. Any suggestions?

 

[rasta]

tIzZLEmOnSTeR - yes the lights from econolite are cheaper but the one from htg is just more convinient because its already set up. and its already air coolable. i would personally spend the money on it and save the hassle.

 

[tiny_rabid_bird]

supa - http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=pyrex+bread+tube&category0=

and rasta, you save a lot of money by buying from econolight and doing the rest yourself. money that can go towards buying all the other things needed to grow.

 

[rasta]

but that hood is really nice and i mean ur gonna spend lets see 40-50 bux on the light then wire it and get a a/c hood or a home made cool tube. im jus saying IMO i would spend the extra 40 bux to get everything preassembled and ready to use. but thats just me.

 

[Supacalabala]

supa - http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=pyrex+bread+tube&category0=

and rasta, you save a lot of money by buying from econolight and doing the rest yourself. money that can go towards buying all the other things needed to grow.

thanks for the reply.
I know about those bake-arounds , but arn't they a bit big for 150 w bulb?

 

[tiny_rabid_bird]

supa, you could also use hurricane lamp glass found at craft stores like in user name's tutorial http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31478&highlight=cool+tube

and rasta, i suppose it all depends on how much of a DIYer and cheapass you are. I'm a lot of both, so when i get the space/money/time to do a grow, i'll take the cheapest route that let's me have the most hands-on experience. but that's just me.

 

[Pipedream]

I've always gotten just as much satisfaction from building and tending my garden as from the meds it produces. By building something you become intimately familiar with it, which is a great thing should anything ever need fixing or modding.

Many 150w HPS Club members have used the e-conolight solution, and some of them didn't even own a screwdriver when they started. They were rewarded with a great learning experience, an effective light, and a feeling of accomplishment. If you are looking to contain costs while you learn, you can't beat it for my money. (and believe me, I can afford any light I want).

With members, like sugabear, just waiting to help, and tutorials already written up, http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36344 , anyone need not be nervous.

One last point to consider: The unit sold on ebay looks very nice & will surely grow fine buds. However, the ballast is attached to the unit which will increase the temps inside your box by quite a few degrees. Make sure you address this issue, if it is one, as you proceed.

All of this is JMHO. If there is anything I can do to assist, all you need do is ask. And if you go another path, I assure you my feelings won't be hurt. We are ALL here to offer help and accept it whenever we can.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB!

 

[Supacalabala]

supa, you could also use hurricane lamp glass found at craft stores like in user name's tutorial http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31478&highlight=cool+tube

Thanks I might just try this one out.

 

[rasta]

wow the ballast is in light? my bad i didnt read that. but it is an a/c hood so i doubt that temp would be much of an issue altho after seeing that i think i mite go with the econolite. i mean im using a DIY light so im not trying to say its hard. its actually WICKED easy but ya. heres alil update on my little ones im down to 4 girls 5 were males

 

[sugabear_II]

Hey guys tizzle here. I dont know much about hps so im counting on ur thoughts. I have a rubbermaid closet grow going and im currently running 6 26w CFLs. I figure with that im already running a little over 150 watts and since i have pretty big rubbermaid cab i need more like 250 watts. So in the way of saving money and getting better results im thinking a 150w hps might be better suited to what i need? Here is my grow journal u can kinda get some info on my sitch. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55986 And right now since my plants are so small i gotta raise em pretty high to get to the CFL light and its killing my ventalation because i got a box to prop the plants up and its kinda blocking the intake. So i did some checking around and found this light on ebay. Whatcha guys think? http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-150-watt-HP...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Well thansk for the info

hey tizzle

yeah htg supply sells a nice - ready to grow 150 - Bulenath actually has one of those inside his U-2 cabinet/TV stand. He was able to remote the ballast fairly easily even though it comes attached to the hood. Hopefully he'll stop by and tell you more about the lamp... Anyways I also got a 400 from the same place and I was very happy w/there customer service and the lamp sent worked well.

As many have told you e-conolight is another cheap alternative [edit: cheap as in inexpensive - not cheap as in cheaply made] and wiring it up is really easy. There's also a pretty easy tutorial on how to build a reflector from a sheet of aluminum commonly available at home depot.

as another option you can always purchase a 150 at lowes as a compact flood lamp and convert it this will be more expensive but if you wish to do cash and carry one of the only options.


supa I was able to find a huricane lantern thing at a craft store and it was pretty good size for the 150 - definetly best option - bake-a-round is a little too big for the 150. Personally though I found the cool tube to be un-necassary and I just have my bulb bare with a reflector. Buds grow within 4" w/o a problem.


rasta congrads on the 4 girls - now is when the real fun begins! don't forget to take clones! - they really have come along nicely since the hurt looking little seedlings you started with.

hey R_G - you know I love the burmese - it is my favorite - in fact just got done some I know that VISC still sells it and Reef is supposed to re-release it from a new p1 generation - might be a bit pricey but I'll put it this way - burmese is the only strain that I grew out the whole pack because I went back to it after trying other strains.


pipedream


pictures later tonight...

suga

edit: pictures
grapefruit




whole bucket with 150 bulb




a couple of burmese bud shots...






I scoped the burmese tonight and she's showing a good amount of amber - think I will chop tomorrow maybe It's tuff - as I have mentioned this is going to be my last grow for a while and I just am kinda letting it drag out - but as you can see she's totally done pistal-wise.

ok last edit - - I was just remembering that I started these clones in 12/12 a few days before march 1st - so we're at about 9 weeks which is right days or so now - also saw a few nanners from the grapefruit - saw these on the seed mom around 9 weeks too - not too much to worry about at this point - but can be a problem if you're growing another plant earlier in flower - otherwise I like the g-fruit - after 2 months cure is when the flavor really comes out nicely.

 

[Guest]

Since none of the girls needed any H2O today, I decided to take a few pictures in front of the looking glass.. These were grown from bag-seed, the big one was 41 days from the switch, and the little one was 38 days from the switch. I estimate it's going to be a while yet.. 10-12 week finish for these plants, which look more sativa-ish to me.. I'll be happy when that day comes, that's for sure.

 

[HinduKushed_423]

Stealth Micro Aquaponics

Stealth Micro Aquaponics

is it possible to use a 150hps in a 18" tall x 24" long x 12" Deep cab with carbon scrubber hooked to 55cfm axial dayton ?

 

[rasta]

um maybe flip it? so it 24" tall. even then that is fuckin tiny. but i would prosume if u can grow in computer cases u can do anything. maybe consider a 70w hps. or maybe even constructing ur own cab? i dunno im stoned, tired and rambling. but good luck bro. o yea and maybe try considering a good short plant like lowryder? aahhh ok im done lol