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150w HPS Club and Resource Guide......

Pipedream

Pipedream

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Well the little girl is growing up. Here she is at Day 10 after the soil to hydro switch. I know I said she was going to be my new "Mom", but I never expected her to be tending a brood so soon. Looks like she keeps the young ones close at hand. I'm thinking about topping her to encourage additional sideward branching. I'll give it another week to see what her natural branch structure is going to be before I make a final decision.

The little one by her side is a feminized seed from a forced single-branch self pollination experiment I did. I was only able to produce about 15 seeds that looked viable. I tried to germ two of them so far and neither one popped. This is the third and it seems to be off to a great start. I used salicylic acid to force the sexual mutation.

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vintner

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sugabear_II said:
and with the axe tonight I am done for a while - I love the 150 and I love all my 150 club brethren and I won't be going any where but it's time to take a rest.... now before anyone gets worried I do have a bit of bud put away for a rainy day plus this harvest here :sasmokin:
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Hey Suga: Maybe some time during your break you could post some pics of your set up, and tell us more about your methods.
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invision

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5 clones 1 day into flower, some clones came out better but they all lived my first time cloning and hopefully get some good herb, they were vegged for 8 days before flower was induced.

2x150watt hps and the bulbs have just been replaced, pots are 10" and nice and deep, 2 plants in the pot in pot style, unknown strain its nothing major just me practicing until i can afford good seeds.

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Beaners came in the mail the other day.. A pack of Speed Queen from Mandala and some freebie Skunkman Skunk # 1's. Put 3 Speed Queens and 2 Skunk #1's between paper towels to grminate, and, and, and I also got started on a reasonably stealthy mother cab, using a desk in a spare bedroom. I will use this cab to grow some moms to provide clones for my 150W cabinet, which I may upgrade to a 250W cabinet because my space is big enough to take it. I don't have pics YET, but here is all I needed to get started:

2x light fixtures, which were salvaged from two lights that were laying around and have since been disposed of properly.

2x 42w 6500K "Daylight" CFL bulbs (~$20)

1x chunk of glass salvaged from picture frame which was also laying around unused.

1x desk fan, my desk could do without.

There are holes for pegs running all the way up the inside of the cabinet. Used 4 pegs to rest the glass on, and 4 pegs to rest my custom made plywood 82W CFL fixture a few notches above the glass. Set the fan on the glass, blowing on the bulbs. Temp is about 7-8 degrees above ambient, 84 degrees, with one test-seedling about 4" tall and 1.5" from the glass, which will get fixed with PC fans tomorrow. 16"dx11.5w"x24"h, light and glass both height adjustable. All the plugs I needed were laying around. Tomorrow: light proof the cab and install PC fans, along with cutting proper intakes and exhausts, light traps, etc.

Mentioning this because the grand total cost on my part is going to be the $20 for the lamps, and that is it. Everything else could be had at garage sales and thrift stores and around the house. The desk is a pretty nice unit though, and was indeed quite expensive (paid too much, I'm sure) although the cheapo cardboard backing looks convenently easy to cut and mount fans in.. :p

Pictures are forthcoming. People really should know by now how simple this growing thing is to do.
 
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tiny_rabid_bird

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So i asked this a while ago, but never quite got a straight answer. I'm curious if the replacement ballast kit from e-conolight has everything needed (except power cord and bulb) to set up a remote ballast.

http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?ProductFamilyID=15&FGNumber=E-BLH151

What I was considering doing was buying one 150 as a complete security light as a learning experience, and then getting an extra bulb and ballast in the same order to set up a dual 150 system. That'd be 60 + 10shipping, so 70 total for 300 watts, which seems solid. Then maybe some supplemental CFLs. Would that work? Any other thoughts? thanks.
 
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tIzZLEmOnSTeR

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rasta said:
well maybe thats a sign u need to make it remote? have u looked at sugarbears converting a security lamp to a remote ballasted grow light? its mad simple dude. and the reason i expect u cant find them remote is there is not much of a need for them like the one from htg u were looking at. its not remote cuz its air cooled there for it really isnt needed but if u felt like doing it im sure you could. good luck bro.
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Hehe ya i was checking out sugabears thread but im not very electrical inclined at all. But ur saying the aircooled will give me about the same or better temps than a remote ballasted?
 
Pipedream

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tiny rabid bird - I've used that exact kit to build a light for another application. It works well but includes nothing but what you see. I had to add the LAMP, WIRING, SOCKET, REFLECTOR, BALLAST BOX, PLUG, and misc, hardware pieces. All of which can be had for a buck or two at a Dollar Store and Home DePot. Or free if you love to dumpster-dive as much as I do. For that set-up I used an old aluminum pressure cooker pulled from the trash as the ballast box. And the Grow-Box was built from an antique TV set obtained the same way. It wasn't very stealth, once you realized that the "TV Picture" never changed! You can see the pressure cooker on the floor next to the cab in this pic.




Morning All - Fired up the artificial sun today and retired the CFL from above the "Mom-To-Be". Since I'm a lazy old man, I just left the new seedling in there with it. Don't know how it will fare. Once I get my ass in gear, I'll edit in a pic of the new set-up.

Edit: - Well as I said, here it is: These are Day 12 after transplant and Day 1 of HPS. If you click on the second pic, you can see the waiting Hydro Buckets under the top platform. Hopefully they'll all be filled with healthy clones before long. You can also spot my newly modified CFL's adding a few additional lumens and filling out the spectrum in the top of the box.


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Wow Pipedream - I luv that old TV growbox. Where did you find that old B&W tv? That old set looks like it's from the 60's.
 
Pipedream

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The TV is actually from the 1940's. Just grabbed it off the curb on Big Pick-Up Day a few years ago. Gutted it, refinished the outside, and added my own innards. Now its torn down and packed away. Too much foot traffic in the house these days to keep it on display.
 
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invision

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day 3 flower

the fish fertilizer i bought by neptune harvest has to be the best stuff i ever used, just in a few days these babies have exploded in growth :woohoo:




 
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Hawaiian808

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150 HPS/430 HPS update day 28 0f 12/12:

Full cab shot


150 HPS


430 HPS

Kinda crowed in there...the Aurora Indica on the left front is a bit airy compared to the the Ice on the right.

 
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Hawaiian808

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Pipedream, sugabear, anyone...if a plant goes hermi and then pollinates itself, are those seeds then feminized and/or are they prone to hermi once germed?

What if that same hermi plant pollinates females around it. Are those seeds feminized? Sorry, I'm very ignorant to this aspect of growing. I may have a potential problem brewing in the upper cabinet or it may turn out to be a blessing depending on your answers.
 
Pipedream

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Yes, if both plants started life as true females, the seeds will be feminized. However, they will also be very prone to hermie as well and you may find that alot of the seeds will not be viable.That's exactly what I'm going thru now.

If you want good female seeds start with a female that is from a known stable strain and will not hermie on her own. Then force it to hermie by one of the accepted methods and use her pollen to pollinate another good stabe female. All of the resulting seeds will be both female and viable and produce stable strains as well.
 
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sugabear_II

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Hawaiian808 said:
Pipedream, sugabear, anyone...if a plant goes hermi and then pollinates itself, are those seeds then feminized and/or are they prone to hermi once germed?

What if that same hermi plant pollinates females around it. Are those seeds feminized? Sorry, I'm very ignorant to this aspect of growing. I may have a potential problem brewing in the upper cabinet or it may turn out to be a blessing depending on your answers.
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hawaiian808 I'll try to answer based upon what I've read... but to be honest I have never grown out any of the random seeds I found in my garden - I saved a few - and I've made a few crosses of my own but that was with a male plant and a female plant. so...

seeds that were created by a plant that hermied w/o much stress will likely carry on the hermie trait if inbred. Basically you're dealing with a plant that has some male traits. When it inbreeds you are likely to see continued hermies.

However when it outcrosses to other stable pure females in your garden the F1 generation will probably not show the hermie trait, whereas the F2 generation it will repear. I don't think there are any guarantees on sex in this generation but you may see a higher number of females.

Now if you have treated/stressed a purely female plant with some hormone, chemical, coliodal silver, or even by letting it go way past finished in flower (soma's method) to induce male flowers that are used to fertilize a female clone of the same plant (or even the same plant like pipedream did) this would normally be the method to produce feminized seeds.

So tell me a few things;

what strain?
why did it hermie?
how bad did it hermie?
how long did it hermie for?

The oregon90 used to throw a few nanners around day 35 and that was it so I kept it around for a while and made f1s using a male burmese. I have not seen any hermie traits in the OB1 so far.

Well I think i'll throw in a macro here now...



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